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9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Uh huh.  You watched McCain french fry commercials during the superbowl too.

Nobody died.

I served honourably and was decorated for my service

fulfilling the contract of unlimited liability in every respect

lots of my friends died, I was just lucky

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29 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Anyway, all of you trembling hystericals worried about the government controlling your information should have a peek at your Shreddies box and look how much they're already involved in your breakfast.

Care about poverty for once.

but when your friends have died to defend against a government controlling information

you can't forsake them

in terms of poverty, the government is imposing that too, by an inflationary debt crisis

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your house is already a pawn of government.  Live in the real world.

@blackbird  Telephone, television, radio and the press have their content controlled by government at several levels.

The information told to you on these media, posted in public, and printed on the products that you buy are heavily regulated.

I'll sorry.  

 

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3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

1. do I have to give more to Uncle Sam and not do my part if they start flexing their muscles on the internet? 

1. I don't care what you do,  but I will comment on what you say.

You're the same as me, keyboard jockey with little to no influence. Go spend your four bucks on vpn, I don't care. But don't try to tell me you are Thomas Jefferson.  You're just a consumer ripping the warning abel off your snake oil pills.

 

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15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

1. While it may be easy for Uncle Sam fans to dismiss the power of one person, every movement in history has started with a single person taking a stand for what they believe in.

2. I believe that Uncle Sam's business is not to police the Internet. "

3. We"
can do that as separate people 

1. Well yes you believe in the Butterfly Effect that is clear.  You even have me talking to trolls like West/WestMan because it will hopefully influence some high school kids reading these forums.  Ok ...
2. I think it would be so much faster to put all the trolls in reeducation camps.
3. How is that going exactly ?  They're about to re-elect Trump - did you know that ?

Anyway, pointless discussion, agree to disagree, etc etc.

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35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Telephone, television, radio and the press have their content controlled by government at several levels.

No, there is absolutely no control on the telephone.

Main television channels are paid off by the Trudeau government and are somewhat beholden to them.  Radio I don't know about.  The CRTC does control who gets a radio or television licence and requires Canadian content.  So we are somewhat like a Commie country in that sense.

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Just now, Contrarian said:

1. We all have those ideas, how about someone comes in and bans everyone, and you, @Moonbox, @Aristides and other reasonable folk around here build your own echo-chamber?

2. How long until you turn the weapons against each other? 

3. ...the reason the CBC blocked comments on their website. I like the hard work. 

1. Not an echo chamber if we include you, BC, Argus, and the other people with whom I disagree regularly ... who have good minds and honest intentions.  The trolls sound alike, so no you have it backwards.

2. You mean our pipes and tweed jackets ?  Who cares.

3. Nobody is worse off for that.  It's been years of us listening to trolls.  Tell me @Contrarian what great new ideas have come from them ?

 

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1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

1. My friend, is not about them, is about people reading like that high school student that is looking to do a project.  

2. It annoys you, you think you are losing the battle but you are not, when you engage, you win, and society wins. 

3. I grew up though, based on that one idea of a good man to show me patience. 

1. 2. I'm dubious.  Who are these phantom people coming here to read and form opinions ?  Show yourselves !

3. Ok.  I am counting this trollplay as a favour I am doing for YOU .... ha ha ha ha

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On 5/4/2023 at 10:42 AM, Boges said:

The OP title is somewhat misleading. 

A group has petitioned the CRTC to ban Fox, but it has not made a decision. It has allowed for consultation on the matter. 

I guess if it can be proven that Fox espouses hate speech, they may have a case. 

The political spectrum really is a circle. The fringes of just want to ban the other side. 

I don't watch Fox, I sometimes listen on Satellite Radio when something relevant in US politics is happening. A majority of the programming resembles normal news, but the Talking heads in Primetime delve into much more controversial territory. 

i have been watching FOX NEWS for years now and I have never seen or heard anyone on FOX NEWS espouse any kind of hatred or racism at anytime. This is just another attack on conservatism by a bunch of Marxists lesbian buffoons and haters of all things white and conservative. 

Maybe you should try and watch FOX NEWS for a change. You might finally learn something. 

If FOX NEWS goes then we will have no conservative news channel to watch anymore. The CRTC appointed Marxists will not allow Canada to have a conservative like FOX NEWS channel in Canada. Only leftist liberal Marxist channels will be allowed in Canada. We once had a conservative news channel called the Sun News Network channel, but the Marxist at the CRTC got rid of that channel. Conservatism is a threat to the Marxist liberal government in Ottawa and I am pretty sure that the Marxist dictator that we now have in Ottawa will want to try and sway the CRTC to get rid of FOX NEWS. 

If the do try and get rid of FOX NEWS, well then, we will see more Marxist censorship in Canada, where all of the rest of those leftist liberal news channel that we have today will have the freedom of the airwaves with no other channel to counter their leftist liberal bullshit and lies. For conservative freedoms sake, let's hope that we do not lose FOX NEWS. 

Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino were two biggest losses for conservatives on FOX. A sad day indeed for freedom of speech. ?

 

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On 5/4/2023 at 11:53 AM, herbie said:

Boges is correct. A letter from some whiney little old lady or offended group does not mean the regulatory body is 'considering'.

Not that tey shouldn't consider changing it to a premium channel you have to pay for if you're stupid enough to.

I am willing and stupid enough to pay to keep FOX NEWS on Canadian TV. And I am also stupid enough to be willing to pay for a conservative news channel in Canada. In a free and democratic society we need to be able to watch and hear from both sides of the story. But here in Canada, we pretty much get to only watch and hear only one side of the story. The leftist liberal side of the story. The conservative side of the story is always just constantly attacked and mocked by the leftist liberals on Globull, CTV and CBC. They always like to ask questions of conservatives where they try and can say that we gotcha.

Those so called journalists of those three TV channels mentioned above are not real journalists at all. They are pretty much all Marxist activists. They all talk and act like they are all in for freedom of speech and democracy, but yet, they attack and mock those that do try to spread free speech and democracy. Everything that is going on in Canada today smacks of anti democracy. Believe it or not. ?

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your house is already a pawn of government.  Live in the real world.

What did you ever do to try and fight and save democracy in Canada? All I ever see you do here is attack and mock anyone who does. Stop trying to pretend that you give a crap about anything because I just do not see it. 

And humans have nothing to do with climate change as far as I am concerned. 90% of the earth's surface is pretty much covered by oceans, lakes and rivers and jungles and forests. If there is some kind of climate change going on, then it must have something to do with mother nature and her rearranging of her furniture geography of the earth like she has been doing for thousands of years, and not mankind. 

If you have a problem with this so-called climate change then go after China and India. They are producing most of the pollution in the world. And while people in the west are supposed to be cutting back on fossil fuels and coal, China is building more coal plants. Stop thinking like a leftist liberal. Liberalism will mess with anyone's minds of those who will believe their constant bull crap. What say you? ? 

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44 minutes ago, taxme said:

i have been watching FOX NEWS for years now and I have never seen or heard anyone on FOX NEWS espouse any kind of hatred or racism at anytime. This is just another attack on conservatism by a bunch of Marxists lesbian buffoons and haters of all things white and conservative. 

Maybe you should try and watch FOX NEWS for a change. You might finally learn something. 

If FOX NEWS goes then we will have no conservative news channel to watch anymore. The CRTC appointed Marxists will not allow Canada to have a conservative like FOX NEWS channel in Canada. Only leftist liberal Marxist channels will be allowed in Canada. We once had a conservative news channel called the Sun News Network channel, but the Marxist at the CRTC got rid of that channel. Conservatism is a threat to the Marxist liberal government in Ottawa and I am pretty sure that the Marxist dictator that we now have in Ottawa will want to try and sway the CRTC to get rid of FOX NEWS. 

If the do try and get rid of FOX NEWS, well then, we will see more Marxist censorship in Canada, where all of the rest of those leftist liberal news channel that we have today will have the freedom of the airwaves with no other channel to counter their leftist liberal bullshit and lies. For conservative freedoms sake, let's hope that we do not lose FOX NEWS. 

Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino were two biggest losses for conservatives on FOX. A sad day indeed for freedom of speech. ?

 

Several things Pierre Poilievre should consider getting rid of if he wins the next election:  Sell the CBC and stop funding television or media, abolish the Liberal laws that give the CRTC all the power they have now, and abolish the federal Human Rights Tribunal which are just a woke tribunal.  Abolish the Liberal laws to control the internet and freedom of the press or speech.   If people have a legitimate issue they can go to regular courts which is where they should be dealt with anyway.

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5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Anyway, all of you trembling hystericals worried about the government controlling your information should have a peek at your Shreddies box and look how much they're already involved in your breakfast.

Leftists are downplaying the rigid control of information, the gesundheitspass, freezing of bank accounts, discrimination against the unvaxed, Trudeau's hate speech, crimes by the FBI against a duly elected president, etc.

There's no low that you guys won't stoop to. 

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Care about poverty for once.

Leftists don't care about poverty or they'd care about illegal immigration, the rising cost of energy, etc, all because of their leftard gov'ts. 

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3 hours ago, taxme said:

i have been watching FOX NEWS for years now and I have never seen or heard anyone on FOX NEWS espouse any kind of hatred or racism at anytime. 

He says...and then shortly after:

3 hours ago, taxme said:

Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino were two biggest losses for conservatives on FOX. A sad day indeed for freedom of speech. ?

Talk about awkward...  ?

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7 hours ago, Contrarian said:

How long until you turn the weapons against each other? Please, have no issues combating anyone, your idea to ignore because it bothers you is the reason the CBC blocked comments on their website.

I would love to go back to debating with Hardner, or other intellectually curious people with knowledge (and reality) based worldviews (left or right).  

Instead, most of the oxygen is sucked out by what amounts to flat-earthers, conspiracy theorists or screeching partisan baboons cluelessly repeating slogans about topics for which they have no knowledge. 

The general quality of an online discussion is determined by it's floor, rather than its ceiling.  Ignorant belligerence and loud noises will drown out thoughtful discourse, without fail.  If you're willing to accept the former, recognize that you're not going to get the latter.  

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1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

 

Instead, most of the oxygen is sucked out by what amounts to flat-earthers, conspiracy theorists or screeching partisan baboons cluelessly repeating slogans about topics for which they have no knowledge. 

 

Sooo = that'd make you the babboon, right? :)

Sounds  a lot like what you're saying is you wish you could only debate people that agree with you. I'm sure you could find an echo chamber for that if it's what you really want. But having watched you it's obvous that while you have some knowledge in some areas you have far less in far more than you think. And you'd benefit from listening more, even if the facts or ideas being presented don't jive with your personal feelings.

It's easy to talk to people you agree with.

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Just now, Contrarian said:

A personal attack or insult is not an effective way to engage in a productive discussion.

 

You've literally spent the whole night making personal attacks and insults at me.  And for some reason attacking the jews on top of it. And making mysoginist comments.

Still a hypocrite I see :)

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38 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

They can't? I can, information, news and opinion is just data to me. Is not hard to spot thugerry, and I can play the thug role daily, as I was a populist myself.

I know people say I make that up, but believe me, I moved on.

Not political very much now, but learning, and now that grammar error free tools are here, I am on steroids.

Is a new ideology brother, don't be too closed minded to new takes.

Nobody's coming out to support you are they.

Nobody appreciates the racism. Or your pretend ideology.

You're not a 'centrist' - you're just a drunk ass.

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4 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, you are my customer and I am ok with Adonai even if I go, might as well spend some time to expose the big ones, you are one nasty bully troll, because you manipulate with interest, pharisee. That was just me being Political Correct with you, hypocrisy, yes.

There is no low, you manipulate with interest. See you around.

Also, try not using the copy and paste option, even for castanet links, when you are a dog servant. This great country gave a platform to people like me to value my talents. I pay my taxes, is the only loyalty I show dog political men servants like you.

The image below is art, radical centrist art, not violence. 

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Oh look - now you're threatening violence.  You're really stepping up your game.

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16 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1. Leftists are downplaying the rigid control of information, the gesundheitspass, freezing of bank accounts, discrimination against the unvaxed, Trudeau's hate speech, crimes by the FBI against a duly elected president, etc.

2. Leftists don't care about poverty or they'd care about illegal immigration, the rising cost of energy, etc, all because of their leftard gov'ts. 

1. You are truly a hysterical and paranoid person. Everything is working pretty much the same way it always has.

2. I don't know about leftist trends, but I as a conservative have posted about poverty very recently. Nobody cared. People are still paying attention to this ridiculous internet censorship non-issue.

Poverty is very little to do with immigration, or the cost of energy and a lot more to do with general cost of living especially housing.  Also, wage stagnation.

Traditionally left us care more about poverty than conservatives, but lately the radical Fringe paranoids have got into their heads that the world's billionaires are socialist..

What a world.

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