Biden's Hateful Screed

[sharkman]

39 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You’ve never thought about a hypothetical before?  I think you’re just avoiding the question.  
 

However, it should really be a simple decision.  Anyone who is willing to give up their daughters to be raped by a mob for any reason is an immoral monster.  
 

Why do you think God spared Lot by letting him flee the city?  Do you think He approved of trying to save the angels by sacrificing his daughters?

Hey.  More idiotic question from treebare, the strange one who does little else but posts questions. Listen Treebear, you make very few points or post your own views, but endlessly question others.

Grow some bark and state and defend your own views instead of constantly wasting others’ time.  Maybe you should make like a tree and leave…

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[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Hey.  More idiotic question from treebare, the strange one who does little else but posts questions. Listen Treebear, you make very few points or post your own views, but endlessly question others.

Grow some bark and state and defend your own views instead of constantly wasting others’ time.  Maybe you should make like a tree and leave…

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So you are fine with Blackbird posting his religious doctrine but not anyone who questions or rebuts it.

[Nationalist]

Biden's speech was sickening.

All I want is to see Mikey and his libbie pals, on their knees, screaming at the sky again.

Then I wanna see the Republicans rake a select number of criminals through the coals in public view.

Edited September 4, 2022 by Nationalist

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, West said:

What denomination

I don't have a church at the present moment because of Covid and because of my age and heart condition, it may be risky for me to go.  Not sure I could survive Covid.  I may go to some local church once in a while;  I don't know yet.   I attended and was a member of Free Presbyterian, Baptist, and Reformed churches in other towns and cities over the past 36 years. I would prefer a fundamental Baptist church with dispensational theology but it may be hard to find in this area.  I think they are closest to the Bible.  But I may consider some other church because there is not much choice here.  But a person needs fellowship or they must live like a hermit as I have been.

Edited September 4, 2022 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

 

So you are fine with Blackbird posting his religious doctrine but not anyone who questions or rebuts it.

I welcome any questions or comments on what I post.  There is nothing to hide.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You’ve never thought about a hypothetical before?  I think you’re just avoiding the question.  
 

However, it should really be a simple decision.  Anyone who is willing to give up their daughters to be raped by a mob for any reason is an immoral monster.  
 

Why do you think God spared Lot by letting him flee the city?  Do you think He approved of trying to save the angels by sacrificing his daughters?

I already told you the answer about Lot and his daughters.  I will repeat God does not approve everything that happened that is recorded in the Bible.  Just because someone did or said something does not mean God approved of it.  As I said many things happened and are recorded as historical events in the Bible, both good and bad.  You have to actually study the Bible perhaps with some guidance and not just cherry pick things just to try to bait someone or try to undermine the Bible.  You will never accomplish anything that way or learn anything.

Edited September 4, 2022 by blackbird

[Nationalist]

On 9/2/2022 at 7:38 PM, herbie said:

Biden got them frothing. Which might be good as they'll do something stupid. Which is all they're capable of.

This is funny.

It's interesting that you Libbies can make fun of Trump all day long. But when challenged to provide reasons for their zombie-like hatred, they go on and on about their precious "feelings".

Libbies are entitled little panty- wastes. Emasculated men and their wives Laura. So they over compensate by supporting destructive policies targeted at the normal, well adjusted, honest citizens.

[West]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I don't have a church at the present moment because of Covid and because of my age and heart condition, it may be risky for me to go.  Not sure I could survive Covid.  I may go to some local church once in a while;  I don't know yet.   I attended and was a member of Free Presbyterian, Baptist, and Reformed churches in other towns and cities over the past 36 years. I would prefer a fundamental Baptist church with dispensational theology but it may be hard to find in this area.  I think they are closest to the Bible.  But I may consider some other church because there is not much choice here.  But a person needs fellowship or they must live like a hermit as I have been.

Baptist eh... God bless you sir. 

[West]

Biden learned well from Osama Obama. Obama was a master at hateful divisive rhetoric disguised as "love and tolerance". Sadly we have a very brainwashed populace who loved the guy... sort of like the folks who loved hitler and Stalin

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

 

So you are fine with Blackbird posting his religious doctrine but not anyone who questions or rebuts it.

No.  That was clearly not the intent of my post.  I said absolutely nothing about blackbird or his views and yet the very first thing that comes to your mind is something I never said.  

This is where arguing with strangers on the internet gets us.  We would never treat each other this way if we were all in a coffee shop.  And what benefit is there in bickering with each other for 80 pages* over abortions, for instance.

Has even one single person changed their mind?  It’s not good mentally or emotionally for people to be in such a state.  It’s why I participate so little.  Peace of mind trumps the addiction to these pointless arguments.

*That was a guess.  

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

I already told you the answer about Lot and his daughters.  I will repeat God does not approve everything that happened that is recorded in the Bible.  Just because someone did or said something does not mean God approved of it.  As I said many things happened and are recorded as historical events in the Bible, both good and bad.  You have to actually study the Bible perhaps with some guidance and not just cherry pick things just to try to bait someone or try to undermine the Bible.  You will never accomplish anything that way or learn anything.

If God didn’t approve of Lot offering his daughters up to be raped, why did he let him flee Sodom?
 

Would you really consider offering up your own daughters like Lot did? 

[Yzermandius19]

20 hours ago, Aristides said:

Storming the Capital and trying to lynch a VP is not questioning. Multiple Republican election officials and multiple courts debunked the fraud claims but you still won't accept it. The bottom line is the Trump Cult doesn't believe in the US electoral system.

The Democrats don't believe in it either, when they lose

you continue to not address this and only attack Republicans for it

making you an obvious partisan hack

[Rebound]

21 hours ago, blackbird said:

That idea sounds like it would come from the modernist, apostate churches that preach the false social gospel.

This author in his book exposes the false social gospel:

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1.     Man is not so bad, and God is not so mad.

In his book, The Kingdom of God in America, H. Richard Niebuhr criticized the liberal Social Gospel describing its message as,

A God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.

Rauschenbusch and his followers tended to blame sin on societal structures rather than human nature. According to Kyle Potter in a Georgetown College article, they believed individuals could not leave a life of sin until they were freed from the social and economic situation that drove them into sin in the first place. This view plainly contradicts the Biblical concept of original sin.

2. Cultural restoration is the Gospel.

Social Gospel adherents seemed to believe the Gospel was centered on cultural involvement: if people transformed culture, only then would Christ be revealed. But this understanding of the Gospel is too narrow.

Christians are absolutely called to engage culture—that is the heart of the Cultural Mandate—but the Gospel is larger than that. It is the story of God’s creation, fall, redemption, and the final restoration. Rauschenbusch seemed to over-emphasize cultural restoration and minimize Christ as the agent of cultural transformation.

3. Social salvation is superior to individual salvation.

Conservative theologians saw redemption as a matter strictly between each individual and God, but Discover the Networks says progressives in the Social Gospel Movement,

held that redemption could only be achieved collectively, by means of unified, social and political activism.

Though Rauschenbusch saw individual salvation as important, he always considered it secondary to social reform. In a recent interview with the Gospel Coalition, Tim Keller rejects this notion:

…individual salvation needs to be kept central.

Though the Social Gospel movement has since fizzled, similar theology has appeared in Emerging Church circles today. Pastor Rick Warren referred to the Social Gospel supported by many of the mainline churches as “Marxism in Christian clothing.” But Warren points out we shouldn’t choose between cultural restoration and personal salvation. The Gospel contains both with Christ at the center.   unquote   

Three Fallacies of the Social Gospel (tifwe.org)

Another article says, quote:

Reformation of Individual Human Hearts

The Biblical Gospel of Christ is not centered upon reformation of whole societies of the world, but reformation of individual human hearts. The impact upon society that ensues from reformed human hearts through regeneration by the Spirit is resultant not primal. The genuine, i.e., Biblical, Gospel of Christ, as it is delineated and elucidated in the Word of God, does indeed tangentially mention how the Church—not as an institution or organization, but an assemblage or amalgamation of individual believers—are to reach out past “the four walls” of their local churches to render assistance to the poor, the needy, the oppressed, and so forth, nevertheless, such charitable “works” are not the central and primary message or objective of the Gospel. Rather, they are, as I say, tangential, and a matter of charitable outflow of reformed or regenerated individual hearts. The purpose and intent of such charitable works is to demonstrate the agape-love of God—that “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life”—not to assume the untenable task and unbearable burden of righting every wrong in the societies of the world and underwrite the financial needs of every person in the entire world.

Word of God and Gospel of Christ Written to Believers

“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God”

One vital, though at first glance seemingly tangential, fact to keep in mind in this respect and with regard to all aspects of Biblical truth is that the Word of God is not addressed to unbelievers but to believers, except in the sense of providing unbelievers with Truth about and from God to convict and convince them of who He is and how desperately they need Him in their lives and that only He has the power and the plan to save them from the damnation they so richly deserve. To the self-reliant, intellectual unbeliever the Gospel of Christ and the Word of God is pure foolishness, but to the believer it is empowerment and a manual for daily living as well as the after-life: “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God” (1 Cor. 1:18).

God Did Not Obligate the Church to Subsidize the Poor

Jesus, for example, did say: “For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them… (Mk. 14:7), but He did not command or obligate the Church to subsidize “the poor” as a people-group, and that the Church should lobby their Federal, State, and local governments to take money from the not-poor in the form of taxes to underwrite government programs to subsidize the poor—not just on an emergent or urgent basis but as a matter of course—for multiple generations, thereby essentially teaching those generations that they do not have to work to earn income to support themselves and their families, but incessantly receive subsidies freely handed out by governments funded by taxpayer-extortion. In fact, as the verse specifically and expressly states, what Jesus said was: “whenever you wish you can do good to them.” Clearly, this was not an obligation or a demand He was placing upon individual Christians or the Christian church at large, but rather He made it clear that it was volitional, i.e., of a person’s own free will, and left to the individual’s own judgment on a case-by-case basis, and not a mandatory or compulsory matter in general.  unquote

What’s Wrong With The Social Gospel? | Spirit Life Magazine

Of course there are many different articles and points of view on what the message of the Bible is.  You will have to study that, but many modern churches have become apostate.  Some of the larger denominations are really into the social gospel and have even gone so far as to ordain practicing homosexuals as ministers.  So we should endeavour to really study this subject and ultimately the Bible should have the final word, as the Holy Spirit teaches it to us.

So you’re complaining that I “misinterpreted” the Old Testament but here you have to refer to somebody else’s book to help you find the truth you WANT to find, when the words of the Hebrew Bible are very clear.  
 

To wit: The men in Gomorrah wanted to commit the crime of RAPE. 

[Rebound]

12 hours ago, sharkman said:

Hey.  More idiotic question from treebare, the strange one who does little else but posts questions. Listen Treebear, you make very few points or post your own views, but endlessly question others.

Grow some bark and state and defend your own views instead of constantly wasting others’ time.  Maybe you should make like a tree and leave…

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To be honest, I think Treebeard asks an excellent question.  I had a religious upbringing that let me ask any question. I was never told to not question.  
 

Lot offered his daughter to be raped by a gang of evil men, to spare his guest the same fate.  
 

The best conclusion I can make: The Bible says some very odd things.  It’s just that simple. 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The best conclusion I can make: The Bible says some very odd things.  It’s just that simple. 

Most of the bible was written by Edgar Allan Poe under a pseudonym.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

So you’re complaining that I “misinterpreted” the Old Testament but here you have to refer to somebody else’s book to help you find the truth you WANT to find, when the words of the Hebrew Bible are very clear.  
 

To wit: The men in Gomorrah wanted to commit the crime of RAPE. 

Some people believe what you claim.  Others believe it was the sin of pride.  But most Jewish and Christian theologians/scholars believe they were destroyed because of Sodomy, which is where the word came from.  Nobody today believes anyone should be destroyed for those kinds of sins and most people believe everyone should be treated respectfully and equally (everyone treated the same in life).  Most of mankind are non-believers and we are all sinners and need to be redeemed according to the gospel.

Edited September 4, 2022 by blackbird

[Rebound]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This is funny.

It's interesting that you Libbies can make fun of Trump all day long. But when challenged to provide reasons for their zombie-like hatred, they go on and on about their precious "feelings".

Libbies are entitled little panty- wastes. Emasculated men and their wives Laura. So they over compensate by supporting destructive policies targeted at the normal, well adjusted, honest citizens.

Conservatives are all closeted homosexuals who are so terrified of admitting their homosexuality that they over-compensate with false macho behavior. They LARP around, dressed like soldiers, obsessed with owning macho guns and hating gays, because gay men represent who they are afraid of being. 
 

Me, I’m a liberal. And I’m comfortable with my sexuality. I don’t need to hate gays because gay people don’t make me feel threatened.  And I don’t feel threatened by black people or immigrants, because I have a great public university education that lets me work at a good, high-paying job. Because the government saw fit to fund public universities with outstanding professors, I’ve never had a qualm about paying taxes. My government invested in me, that lets me make a good living, and I’ll pay back that debt the rest of my life. Fair enough.  
 

But, back to conservatives, if you guys have urges to have sex with other men, you really ought to.  You’ll feel a lot better once you get it over with.  That’s what I’d do, although I’ve had rectal exams before and it doesn’t excite me at all, but whatever floats your boat…

[herbie]

It's not hard to make fun of a clown all day long. TV comedians had such an easy 4 years under Trump they're struggling for content these days. They didn't even have to try, The Donald provided oafish talk and actions several times a day.

As for your lame libbies BS we all lived though those times, what wrong with you to kieep promoting the loutish con man?

[Yzermandius19]

21 minutes ago, herbie said:

It's not hard to make fun of a clown all day long. TV comedians had such an easy 4 years under Trump they're struggling for content these days. They didn't even have to try, The Donald provided oafish talk and actions several times a day.

As for your lame libbies BS we all lived though those times, what wrong with you to kieep promoting the loutish con man?

TV comedians had a very tough time

because they became political activists and told terrible jokes in service of that activism

if Trump provided such good material

they certainly squandered all of it due to Trump Derangement Syndrome

[herbie]

Yes, TDS is the rterm used by the insane to call the sane the wackos. I know you are, but what am I? Is the usual level of a Trumpoid's intellectual response.
 

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, herbie said:

Yes, TDS is the rterm used by the insane to call the sane the wackos. I know you are, but what am I? Is the usual level of a Trumpoid's intellectual response.

you're deranged and blinded by hatred

it's pretty rich that you are the one questioning the sanity of others

iron law of woke projection

[Aristides]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Yes, TDS is the rterm used by the insane to call the sane the wackos. I know you are, but what am I? Is the usual level of a Trumpoid's intellectual response.
 

It actually means Trump Dementia Syndrome.

[herbie]

They put a clown in the White House and thought he was a King. Everyone else knew he was still only the clown that turned the White House into a circus...

[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

TV comedians had a very tough time

because they became political activists and told terrible jokes in service of that activism

if Trump provided such good material

they certainly squandered all of it due to Trump Derangement Syndrome

See? They have no sound reasoning for they're TDS. It's all based on their precious "feelings". Today Greg Gutfeld is destroying the libbie late night sissies. 

@Rebound...lol...oh emasculated one...one of my sons is gay and is twice the man you sound like.

As for your education...I worked my way from the bottom of the IT world, to the top of it. Today...I would be your senior in the corporate pecking order. Imagine you...having to cow to the likes of me.

LOL...what a dope.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Nationalist

[TreeBeard]

On 9/4/2022 at 9:26 AM, blackbird said:

Nobody today believes anyone should be destroyed for those kinds of sins and most people believe everyone should be treated respectfully and equally (everyone treated the same in life).

Didn’t you post an article about America becoming the new Sodom and how evil that was?  That gays like to stuff gerbils up their bums?  That God is going to punish these wicked sodomites?  
 

So this leaves me a bit confused…. Do you want God to strike them down?  Or would you prefer everyone be treated respectfully and equally?