eyeball Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: wait, what ? the "leftist" is happy that working class Joes are losing their jobs ? that says all you need to know about the commie elitist NDP in their ivory towers Cedar shake tower actually. Hand split them all myself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: Cedar shake tower actually. Hand split them all myself. the working classes are no longer with you Kneedippers all you got is a bunch of college academics, and the masses despise them if Jagmeet tried to go amongst the working classes, an angry mob would form around him then he'd run to his limo screaming for the Mounties to save him oh wait, that happened just the other day 1 Quote
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Of course reneging on own values and principles would hurt. Isn't it that WWII was all about? And I dunno why we need to discover and rediscover it yet again, the underlying reason is simple as two plus two: principles are only codified experience. By reneging on principles, refusing to remember and act accordingly we're bound to repeat it over and over. Familiar story, not so? And of course we all care and wish to help Germany in her self-engineered, with valuable help of the Stockholm syndrome conundrum. The question is, how we are helping the details, specifics? Some with a wise word; some with sincere expressions of care and comfort; others still with material, like humanitarian contributions. And then there are those ready to dive into others sh#t on a first whistle. No that would be too stinky, cant afford that. Just ship it to Canada. A respected new role for a brave new world. Edited July 16, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
OftenWrong Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Dougie93 said: glad to have you I think you're a good man I like you I got your back Why thanks fella! I feel the same. Respect to you Quote
OftenWrong Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 11 hours ago, herbie said: Obviously we're not gonna buy more; Uh huh. You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight Quote
OftenWrong Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Zelensky calls Trudeau a “Manifestation of weakness”. Link Read: coward. “There can be no doubt that Russia will try not just to limit as much as possible, but to completely shut down the supply of gas to Europe at the most acute moment. Against such a background, it's just a shame to see people lacking the courage to honestly deal with one turbine." Manifestation of weakness. I like that. I like how the Ukrainian language works. Edited July 16, 2022 by OftenWrong 1 Quote
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 Well, let's figure it out, isn't so difficult. Given: we have here a Hitler, Nazis 2.0 in Europe. No, just look at the pictures, I insist. Then we need to keep it flowing or much feared r-word. So shouldn't we give in to his ultimatums under any guise and creative stashing away from public sight only to keep it flowing for the sake of blah? OK, sure. Yes you can do that. Only one question: where will it take us and what would it leave us with? Will it be the last of Hitler's ultimatums, now that you showed him weakness under guises and creative shipping? Please guess. What would you do if you were Hitler, and your adversary just shown a weakness? Will it leave you stronger and Hitler, weaker? Or the other way around? Is it some calculus? But wait, there's more! Wouldn't it create a logical sequence, a precedent and a slope: to each ultimatum you give in a bit more because blah and you already done it that leaves you a bit weaker, and him quite a bit stronger? He knows the game, a master of it - do you? And where would it take you, the sequence? At some point you would have to give in completely, including all of your proclaimed values and credibility. Or you will have no choice but to fight for real. Next: what would be the cost of that fight if that's what you choose? Wouldn't be like, astronomically uncounted numbers higher than any peanuts now including the r-word if it has to pass (with the inflation taking us there anyways)? There you go. Nothing new by the way, the same "never again" (TM) almost hundred year old legendary sequence. On the matter of principles and stinky compromises. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 And important to say, this not the first episode. Remember paying for gas in rubles, in contradiction? Sanctions on transit to Russia's Baltic enclave (former Prussia)? Anybody wants to keep track where, which direction we are heading? This is fascism we're dealing with here, an aggressive militaristic armed to the teeth new fascism in Europe. And now it knows your weakness, you just gave it to him. Someone promised you that you would be able to deal with it "with no pain to our economy"? You have this promise, sure? It's only yourself you have to deceive here. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Dougie93 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Why thanks fella! I feel the same. Respect to you chimo Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 3:55 AM, bandera said: During The Holocaust, many collaborated with the Nazi. Today Canada is no different than the Nazi collaborators of the 1940s. By sending Turbines, they are helping Russia sell more Gas, and use that money to kill Ukrainians. I fucking Hate Canadians, they are the scumbags of the earth. I wish that Canadians start drinking Russian diarrhoea instead of Maple syrup with their waffles. Canada pretended to support Ukraine, then they stab Ukrainian freedom fighters in the back. OK, go away. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: chimo You two need to get a room Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 There are only two solutions possible in this affair. The new fascism is defeated completely and utterly. Or you give in to it, losing in the process all your proclaimed values and principles, along with self-respect and honor. No: there are no other options. And so, by edging from one, you will be dancing toward the other. Creativity and music doesn't change anything. Make no mistake about it. Last time some 80 years back is was all new and undiscovered. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
OftenWrong Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You two need to get a room I guess you just never got enough hugs, when you was a kid 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You two need to get a room yeah, it's called the mess kick back with some pints, play some billiards Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: yeah, it's called the mess kick back with some pints, play some billiards For you two, pocket billiards, with hands in each others pocket Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 And now we're done with creative interpretation of our own sanctions, let's get to the real fun stuff. Take Article 5 for example. We thought we all knew what "an attack" means right? like what could be not obvious about it? But then we also thought things like "never again"; "peace and security in Europe"; "sanctions" were obvious too. For every great claim and promise the Time has a simple and effective test: the reality check. So what was your famous article about can you show it? No thank you paper currency not accepted only real stuff here. Or will it take another six month of careful deliberation and conditional application? Let's see. There's only one way to find out. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Dougie93 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: For you two, pocket billiards, with hands in each others pocket who knew you were having such elaborate fantasies about me ? creepy Quote
herbie Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 15 hours ago, Dougie93 said: wait, what ? the "leftist" is happy that working class Joes are losing their jobs ? that says all you need to know about the commie elitist NDP in their ivory towers What? You lost your job cuz you wouldn't get a vax? And it's everyone else's fault your political bullshit is more important to you than feeding your family? Wasn't your own choice was the evil Trudeau goblin.... right.... Didn't think the value of your opinon could sink below zero. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, herbie said: What? You lost your job cuz you wouldn't get a vax? And it's everyone else's fault your political bullshit is more important to you than feeding your family? Wasn't your own choice was the evil Trudeau goblin.... right.... Didn't think the value of your opinon could sink below zero. What a despicable and moronic take. You would have society not work at all and have 0 COVID than to have a society running but having flaws and having COVID. Look, if you suffer from mental illness and can't stand a bit of anxiety, I understand you. But don't try to think that we'll come back to 2020 levels of collective mental illness because you are stuck in that mental state. Edited July 16, 2022 by QuebecOverCanada Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said: What a despicable and moronic take. You would have society not work at all and have 0 COVID than to have a society running but having flaws and having COVID. Look, if you suffer from mental illness and can't stand a bit of anxiety, I understand you. But don't try to think that we'll come back to 2020 levels of collective mental illness because you are stuck in that mental state. He is right. You make no sense. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Dougie93 said: who knew you were having such elaborate fantasies about me ? creepy No, creepy are your BS diatribes Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
QuebecOverCanada Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: He is right. You make no sense. You are still wanting society to be shut down. You are the cause of the airports delays. You are the cause of inflation. You are the cause of all this economic downturn. Your policies don't mitigate COVID and create a lot of distress for the working class, the travelers, immigrants and all the people affected by your insane 0 COVID policies. Your fanatism for 0 COVID created a monstrous inflation. He is not right, you are just insane to agree with this guy. Edited July 16, 2022 by QuebecOverCanada Quote
myata Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) When was the contract to service the turbines in Canada concluded? What were the terms? How come in this country we cannot know anything about pretty much anything, but anyhow it's still a democracy? Is it by some magic democracy magic wand? Edited July 16, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
QuebecOverCanada Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: No, creepy are your BS diatribes You want to literally shut down society and watch it all burn in the goal of 0 COVID. You are not creepy, you are straight up an evil and an inconsiderate person. Edited July 16, 2022 by QuebecOverCanada Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said: You want to literally shut down society and watch it all burn in the goal of 0 COVID. You are not creepy, you are straight up an evil and an inconsiderate person. Not at all. but he made a point to the poster. He just said "What? You lost your job cuz you wouldn't get a vax? And it's everyone else's fault your political bullshit is more important to you than feeding your family" and he is right to question the actions. It has nothing to do with society as he is questioning the posters comments and actions, not society. Oh and, there will never be 0 COVID, just as there will never be 0 Flu and other viruses. Every year there is a new flu shot (and your choice to get it or not) because the virus mutates as COVID has. We will be subject to vaccinations and boosters for the foreseeable future. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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