Canada intends to service Russian pipeline turbines circumventing the sanctions

[myata]

A two-year "deal" covers up to five turbines for Russia's Nord Stream pipeline in ostensible violation of sanctions.

Yes people here have different positions about the country's stance in the war. But once you made your decision, and position public shouldn't you follow the principle?

OK one more time: here's Russia. Russia owned by Putin and his clique recently started a brutal invasion of an independent democratic country of Ukraine.

Here's Germany. Germany buys a lot of gas and other stuff from Russia despite its brutal war and previous wars because... but OK.

Here's a German company, Siemens. It wants to service Russian turbines for Russia (and Germany) and make some buck out of it (despite the war, OK).

And here's Canada. It declared a shiny and staunchly uncompromised support and condemnation blah. And it declared sanctions. And now it wants to circumvent its own sanctions servicing Russian turbines by German company in Canada. Why in Canada? Does it make sense already? Or should you follow your declared commitments and principles?

Apparently not. And this is so typical of the Liberals, used to blowing steam out of all orifices at once that only those still spared the extreme boredom of the politics in this country remembered to yawn. Nobody else noticed, usual normal background. Words fly one way walk on the ground the opposite. "Canadian jobs" you see. As confirmed by a public czar just having an expensive dinner with a top private executive. No public record sorry. Yes, out of your pocket how else.

What? Some wise secret Allied deal the wise bureaucrats know about but you can't? After SNC-Lavalin? You sure?

And this by the way why Canada isn't getting that coveted seat on the Council. Everybody knows by now the real worth of the great Canadian talk. Even the laziest of this world by now, know.

Edited July 14, 2022 by myata

[OftenWrong]

The Ukrainian World Congress is suing Canada.

Link

"This exemption to the sanctions regime against Russia is totally unacceptable," the Ukrainian World Congress said in a statement. "There are real alternatives to Germany’s gas needs, including buying through Ukraine’s pipeline."

Russia claims they cannot deliver gas to Germany (EU) without these parts.

The part is manufactured by Siemens, a German company. Rather than repair it in Germany, the part was sent to a Siemens plant in Canada. German engineers flown to Canada to assist.

The decision to send it to Canada has everything to do with optics. Germany has put itself in an impossible situation.

We are suckers.

Putin: Queen to King’s level three.

Satan laughing spreads his wings.

 

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Edited July 14, 2022 by OftenWrong

[myata]

Exactly: just stinks of something stinky, like Liberal stinky. Some sophisticated plot to give in to Putin's food and energy blackmail and guess who in the free world just couldn't say no to the proposition? What a parody of a country we're rushing toward. What a shame.

[myata]

"We will take your stinky business" (as seen on the street). A sleepy backwater of the free world to ship unwanted, stinky and shady business to. Thanks we'll take it all, gladly and earnestly. Should go right on the Liberal banner (or the country's?) great job Canada!

[Nationalist]

Welcome to the results of Globalism and Greenie horseshit, folks.

Germany made the magnanimous gesture of shutting down many of its fossil fuel generators. Shortly there after they realized...Scheiße

They had not enough electricity or heating for the nation. So...in the spirit of Globalism, they made a deal with the Russians for oil and gas.

The USA and Canada could have filled the needs but...the USA is lead by an idiot whose beholden to the Greenies...and our li'l Pixie-Dust is a childish li'l goof.

Welcome to "The New Normal" folks. An exit from fossil fuels BEFORE we can replace it, and Globalism gone wild.

I'n't this special? My 'feelings' are sooo a peace now...that we've fucked every single middle-class and lower human on the planet.

@Libbies and @Greenies: You people are the dumbest, most destructive force on Earth right now. And I for one...can hardly wait to watch on as the inevitable come-upins hits you all right between the eyes.

Morons!

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Nationalist

[Dougie93]

14 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Welcome to the results of Globalism and Greenie horseshit, folks.

Germany made the magnanimous gesture of shutting down many of its fossil fuel generators. Shortly there after they realized...Scheiße

They had not enough electricity or heating for the nation. So...in the spirit of Globalism, they made a deal with the Russians for oil and gas.

The USA and Canada could have filled the needs but...the USA is lead by an idiot whose beholden to the Greenies...and our li'l Pixie-Dust is a childish li'l goof.

Welcome to "The New Normal" folks. An exit from fossil fuels BEFORE we can replace it, and Globalism gone wild.

I'n't this special? My 'feelings' are sooo a peace now...that we've fucked every single middle-class and lower human on the planet.

@Libbies and @Greenies: You people are the dumbest, most destructive force on Earth right now. And I for one...can hardly wait to watch on as the inevitable come-upins hits you all right between the eyes.

Morons!

 

not trying to pick a fight with you, but you are honestly conflating two paradigms into one

Globalism is simply the American word for a unipolar Hegemon providing freedom of navigation to the world markets

so there was Globalism in the 19th century as well, when the sun never set upon the British Empire

the leftist pursuit of One World Government is called Communism

Communism persists even when there is no Globalism, see; the Cold War

just because the world is divided, doesn't mean the Communists cease their Utopian pursuit of One World Government

[Dougie93]

case in point, while the Russians are no longer ruled by the Communists

the Russians are one of the most Globalist nations of all

because the Russians are dependent on Globalism, they are dependent on foreign imports to run the country

the Russians need foreign imports to run their oil industry

they need foreign imports to build advanced military technology

Putin is not and never was anti-Globalist, it's not Putin refusing to come to Davos and meet with the WEF

Putin's family lives in Germany, Putin's money parked in the West

Putin is a product of Globalism as much as Trudeau is

the Russians are not fighting to escape from Globalism

the Russians are fighting to stay in Globalism

the West is trying to kick them out, the Russians are trying to stay inside the Hegenomy

there is nothing more  Globalist than Russia supplying Germany with oil by pipeline

Putin wants to come to the G7, Putin wants to come to Davos

Putin wants to be recognized as a Globalist leader with the rest

Edited July 14, 2022 by Dougie93

[myata]

Just to make it's clear: everybody knows. Yes that, Canada's Polichinelle's secret the happy sham democracy. Sure smiles great G7 nation drink to buddy pat on the shoulder but then inside and even between us pals it's no secret: just give to Justine he can put any exemption / exception in his funny democracy no questions asked and his sleepy folk won't even yawn. Wouldn't it be fun to govern there on the other thought nah civilization you know. Can't get a croissant right in a fancy restaurant.

Ja, ja just ship it to Canada. That's where we are heading folks - no mistakes or surprises. Getting there.

[Dougie93]

Canada is not a Democracy

Canada is a monarchy with democratic representation

you do not vote for a Prime Minister

you only vote for a local MP

the sum total of MP's determines who has Parliamentary Supremacy

whomever is the leader of that faction, then wields the supreme authority of the Queen

in Canada, you do not choose your Head of State

in Canada, you do not choose your Head of Government

your democratic choice in Canada is very limited, by design

now you may wish to overthrow that to impose some sort of direct Democracy

but in Canada, that would actually be treason

Edited July 14, 2022 by Dougie93

[myata]

No - it doesn't matter what kind of pretty fancy words are wrapped around nothing if they have no meaning. The essence defines the word not the other way around. As seen yet again, right before our eyes. No words will fix that. I wouldn't even dream.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, myata said:

No - it doesn't matter what kind of pretty fancy words are wrapped around nothing if they have no meaning. The essence defines the word not the other way around. As seen yet again, right before our eyes. No words will fix that. I wouldn't even dream.

Canada really only consists of words

the Treaty of Paris 1763 is the basis of all Canadian constitutional law

followed by the British North America Acts

which were then Patriated into the Canada Act in 1982

without fancy words written down, there is no Canada 

[myata]

Keep proving it: change is not possible. Mutatio non potest ad mare...

Edited July 14, 2022 by myata

[Dougie93]

you will never sell Canadians on the idea of revolution

Canada is fundamentally counterrevolutionary

if you want to bring a government in Canada down

you have to sell that as a counterrevolution

it is Justin Trudeau who is the revolutionary usurper

you are simply the ones restoring Canada to the terms of the fancy words written down in the constitution

that's the only way it works

Justin Trudeau is the American republican invasion, proxy for the American Democrat Party

Loyalist Canadians defy him in the name of HM The Queen

Edited July 14, 2022 by Dougie93

[myata]

Well if we couldn't get an intelligible answer to this it wouldn't be no funny matter, a verdict, a written acknowledgment. I've no idea where it could go from this point. But nowhere good, sure.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

Well if we couldn't get an intelligible answer to this it wouldn't be no funny matter, a verdict, a written acknowledgment. I've no idea where it could go from this point. But nowhere good, sure.

there is no revolutionary change allowed under the Canadian constitution

if you are want to take a revolutionary position in Canada

then of course the Mounties will have to come to beat you about the head then throw you in prison

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, myata said:

 Mutatio non protest ad mare...

that means "change is not a protest to the sea"

not sure as to the meaning within context

[myata]

22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

then of course the Mounties will have to come to beat you

That's like the final democratic argument? I don't think it's any secret either.

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, myata said:

That's like the final democratic argument? I don't think it's any secret either.

again, Canada is not a democracy, Canada is a monarchy

I do assert that the Liberals & NDP have broken their oaths to the Crown of Canada

in the name of some lunatic invasive American revolutionary cult

but I none the less remain fiercely Loyalist to Her Majesty

that is the separation of powers in Canada

you are not bound to be loyal to the government

only to the Commander-in-Chief which said government must also have fealty to

Victoria Regina Imperatrix, Pro Patria

Edited July 14, 2022 by Dougie93

[myata]

And the price of stinky compromises. This five year old girl was riding her scooter this morning before Russia's missile strike on Vynnitsya. No please don't look away. Can you see great Canadian jobs there?

Edited July 14, 2022 by myata

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, myata said:

And the price of stinky compromises. This five year old girl was riding her scooter this morning before Russia's missile strike on Vynnitsya. No please don't look away. Can you see great Canadian jobs there?

an uncompromising position would not save any children

a war against Russia could result in the deaths of millions of Canadian children in fact

[myata]

Not servicing Russian turbines could result in a terrible fate of Canadian jobs sorry children, got it! Just do as Russia says while strongly condemning and calling for, that worked so well with Hitler! Didn't Justine just say the same thing though a funny coincidence. No just funny like in shamefully and unapologetically ridiculous. Where shall we go from here - no, don't even want to guess.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

Not servicing Russian turbines could result in a terrible fate of Canadian jobs sorry children, got it! Just do as Russia says while strongly condemning and calling for, that worked so well with Hitler! Didn't Justine just say the same thing though a funny coincidence. No just funny like in shamefully and unapologetically ridiculous. Where shall we go from here - no, don't even want to guess.

the request for the turbines to be returned did not come from Russia

Canada is acquiescing to a request from Germany

Ukraine is not in NATO, Germany takes precedence over Ukraine in terms of Canada's security obligations

[Dougie93]

Canada at this point has deployed Canadian Special Operations Forces Command to the Ukraine

Joint Task Fore 2 has boots on the ground in this war

if our Canadian soldiers are captured by the Russians, they are doomed

so Canada is doing its part, at the tip of the spear in fact

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

not trying to pick a fight with you, but you are honestly conflating two paradigms into one

Globalism is simply the American word for a unipolar Hegemon providing freedom of navigation to the world markets

so there was Globalism in the 19th century as well, when the sun never set upon the British Empire

the leftist pursuit of One World Government is called Communism

Communism persists even when there is no Globalism, see; the Cold War

just because the world is divided, doesn't mean the Communists cease their Utopian pursuit of One World Government

Yes, I am conflating them.

What is Communism...at its root? A dictatorship.

How does one plan to manage a dictatorship? By making the populous supportive of your cause.

Yet humans are generally adverse to dictatorships. So what would motivate them to give up their freedoms?

FEAR!

Fear of dying from...global warming.

Fear of dying from...The Rona.

Fear of social rejection...fear of legal actions...fear of financial actions...fear of starving...fear of merely saying something the orthodoxy has rejected.

OK...but how does one impose such a varied and overbearing level of fear? That's simple...buy OWNING most of the MSM and the financial well being of science, through grant approvals. Once you OWN the messengers of record, the general public will succumb to a constant barrage of...fear. They will actually beg one to impose their dictatorial desires on them, for some perceived relief from the...fear.

Do you really think this Greenie movement, isn't just another club to hit us all over the head with?

Humanity is being escorted through the valley of the shadow of death...you may choose to fear...or not.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Yes, I am conflating them.

What is Communism...at its root? A dictatorship.

no, at its root Communism is a Post Scarcity Utopia

Communism is the end state of the World Socialist Revolution

a One World Government without any class divisions, perfectly egalitarian

so it is a religion in fact, a secular Heaven on earth rather than in the next world to come