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Posted
16 minutes ago, West said:

1. Being ruled by communists threatening to strip granny's pension over a vaccine isn't going to be popular. 

2. I expect separatist movements to spring up in Quebec and Western Canada

1.  Granny's getting pharmacare and dental care though..
2. Because we're adopting Quebec style politics ?  Maybe the Western provinces will listen to granny.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  Granny's getting pharmacare and dental care though..
2. Because we're adopting Quebec style politics ?  Maybe the Western provinces will listen to granny.

So you believe granny should lose something she paid into her whole life because she disagrees with Trudeau on the vaccine? 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, West said:

So you believe granny should lose something she paid into her whole life because she disagrees with Trudeau on the vaccine? 

Except that they're not reducing pension benefits.  Harper did that.

The vaccine isn't as relevant as you think it is.  Not anymore.

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lol its not a dictatorship  a  coalition you mean  jesus..  westerners on here are so dramatic..  Harper tried the same thing when he wanted to be pm also. it happens alot of governments in europe just cause it's newish here doesn't make it a dictatorship.

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

lol its not a dictatorship  a  coalition you mean  jesus..  westerners on here are so dramatic..  Harper tried the same thing when he wanted to be pm also. it happens alot of governments in europe just cause it's newish here doesn't make it a dictatorship.

It's not even a coalition. If it was the NDP would be represented in Cabinet.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except that they're not reducing pension benefits.  Harper did that.

The vaccine isn't as relevant as you think it is.  Not anymore.

There's a bill in the HoC which would make it essential that you have taken the vaxx to collect your CPP. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Jack, Moonbox, and Eyeball, now’s your chance to submit your entries for the armband competition.  I’m thinking a big L with a hammer and sickle.  

Go have some warm milk and a nap-nap.  You'll feel better after.  

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Jack, Moonbox, and Eyeball, now’s your chance to submit your entries for the armband competition.  I’m thinking a big L with a hammer and sickle.  

How about a fish-gaff and chainsaw?  That's me gaffing a fish aboard my troller in my avatar btw.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
31 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

lol its not a dictatorship  a  coalition you mean  jesus..  westerners on here are so dramatic..  Harper tried the same thing when he wanted to be pm also. it happens alot of governments in europe just cause it's newish here doesn't make it a dictatorship.

It's a dictatorship. Kowtow to leftist social ideas or they'll ruin you, lock down your bank accounts, and strip you off your CPP that you had no choice but to pay into. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, West said:

There's a bill in the HoC which would make it essential that you have taken the vaxx to collect your CPP. 

Can you reference this please?  I'm genuinely curious.  

"A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous

Posted
13 minutes ago, West said:

It's a dictatorship. Kowtow to leftist social ideas or they'll ruin you, lock down your bank accounts, and strip you off your CPP that you had no choice but to pay into. 

lol  you are  such   a dramatic  man. stop spreading nonsense.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Can you reference this please?  I'm genuinely curious.  

You didn't get the memo?

Oh, that's right...I forgot you're still just a probationary leftie. Keep up the good work!

You should be getting your armband anytime now.

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So we're not getting that reference then?  

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Posted (edited)

 Since the federal NDP and Liberals have reached an agreement which includes the governing Liberals enacting more major social programs such as dental care, and pharmacare, in addition to the existing programs, the question of whether it is moral or not should be examined.  These programs sound good on the surface or without an in depth examination of what it all means.  But the fact is they will cost Canadians tens of billions of dollars on top of the hundreds of billions of dollars of debt we already have.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.  Somebody has to pay for all these expensive programs and the only people who can pay are the taxpayers.  But many Canadians are already stretched beyond the brink and struggling to make end's meet.  So how will all this work and is it fair for taxpayers?  Gas prices are already beyond reasonable, real estate and rents in cities is getting out of sight, and food is going up.  Yet the left wing parties and politicians believe now is the time to really splurge on social programs.  They also believe we should not spend on our poverty-stricken Canadian forces, even at a time when the world has changed and we face serious aggressive behavior from adversaries in the world.  So it is really a moral issue as well as a political issue.

Also see the following article as to why Socialism is evil:

5 Reasons Socialism Is Not Christian | Opinion News (christianpost.com)

No cost analysis has been given by the NDP or Liberals who are planning this.  If one considers what the monthly cost of dental insurance and a prescription drug insurance plan might cost, I think we would be getting closer to a real picture of how expensive these programs could be.  Perhaps hundreds of dollars per month for every family.

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2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 Since the federal NDP and Liberals have reached an agreement which includes the governing Liberals enacting more major social programs such as dental care, and pharmacare, in addition to the existing programs, the question of whether it is moral or not should be examined.  These programs sound good on the surface or without an in depth examination of what it all means.  But the fact is they will cost Canadians tens of billions of dollars on top of the hundreds of billions of dollars of debt we already have.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.  Somebody has to pay for all these expensive programs and the only people who can pay are the taxpayers.  But many Canadians are already stretched beyond the brink and struggling to make end's meet.  So how will all this work and is it fair for taxpayers?  Gas prices are already beyond reasonable, real estate and rents in cities is getting out of sight, and food is going up.  Yet the left wing parties and politicians believe now is the time to really splurge on social programs.  They also believe we should not spend on our poverty-stricken Canadian forces, even at a time when the world has changed and we face serious aggressive behavior from adversaries in the world.  So it is really a moral issue as well as a political issue.

Also see the following article as to why Socialism is evil:

5 Reasons Socialism Is Not Christian | Opinion News (christianpost.com)

Whaaat?

I was wrong about you blackbird. You are right in your assessment

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Posted
19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 Since the federal NDP and Liberals have reached an agreement which includes the governing Liberals enacting more major social programs such as dental care, and pharmacare, in addition to the existing programs, the question of whether it is moral or not should be examined. 

What does the bible say?

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It’s just hastening the loss of both the wealthy and middle classes. Cuba has great healthcare too.  That’s what we’re getting.  The younger generations will be renters, not owners.  It will be a society split between exhausted essential workers whose incomes will buy less and less, a small elite, and an underclass on the dole.  Those who don’t follow government mandates will starve until they comply. The ability to own a home, travel, and have a well-supported family will be reserved for the top civil servants, government, and business executives.

For everyone else, rent your shoebox in the sky and hope your small-scale stock picks take off.  Don’t worry though, you’ll be able to tell yourself you’re saving the planet (you’re not) with every additional carbon levy and restriction. Did you really want to bring kids into this world anyway?  “You will have nothing and be happy.”

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If you work you already pay for pharmacare and dental. Either it comes out of your paycheque directly or indirectly. As long as the system is no less efficient than private systems, then I don't see how this is really an issue. 

Could argue that having affordable medicine probably saves in hospital costs, the poor can get medicine before being so sick they have to go to the hospital.

A lot of what we do and don't provide for healthcare is pretty arbitrary/nonsensical anyways. Have seen that to the extreme where it comes to trans healthcare.

Anyways I don't forgive the NDP for the EA but I think the pharmacare and dental are good things.

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7 minutes ago, Nexii said:

If you work you already pay for pharmacare and dental. Either it comes out of your paycheque directly or indirectly. As long as the system is no less efficient than private systems, then I don't see how this is really an issue. 

Could argue that having affordable medicine probably saves in hospital costs, the poor can get medicine before being so sick they have to go to the hospital.

A lot of what we do and don't provide for healthcare is pretty arbitrary/nonsensical anyways. Have seen that to the extreme where it comes to trans healthcare.

Anyways I don't forgive the NDP for the EA but I think the pharmacare and dental are good things.

The poor are already covered for dental, optometry and medical under provincial health plans. 

Dont see why we need the Feds to duplicate a program. Likely just another wealth transfer sham.

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the advantage of the Liberal - NDP dictatorship, is that they will blow the Canadian economy up

they will continue to print money to pay for their utopian schemes

this will of course throw gasoline on the inflation fire

resulting in rapid interest rate rises at some point

this is the only way the voters will learn the downside

so it is a necessary process, as suffering real pain is the only way people learn en masse

Posted
5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  Granny's getting pharmacare and dental care though..
2. Because we're adopting Quebec style politics ?  Maybe the Western provinces will listen to granny.

Before everyone wets the bed, and starts breaking out the cake and ice cream...do we have a cost of what these programs are going to cost, and what is it going to cost for all the other NDP programs they want to tackle, in order for Justin to stay in power, what are the items the liberals are going to be pursuing... they had already budgeted 100 Bil in extra spending, without the NDP programs.. Not counting the rumblings of putting DND back on the 2 % NATO minimum...

One more question, Why has Justin gone this route, was he planning something that might create a confidence vote ? why  combining forces with the NDP, and having to pay an additional price to please them...I ask becasue Justin had a majority already and in my opinion pissed it away, and accomplished very little, whats the sudden need to have another....

 

 

 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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