Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well then it would be the government's fault for printing too much cash. This whole Covid panic has been handled poorly all the way through. Perhaps it was the excuse needed to get to this end game your speaking of? Either way, the governments cannot be trusted.! yes, the government is flooding the economy with cash but you are already seeing the limiting factor on that the inflation of the money supply is already starting to break things but the real problem is the massive debt because in order to contain the destructive effects of inflation you have to remove money from the system by raising interest rates the central bank raises its rates the banks then park their money at the central bank instead of loaning it out and that will stop the inflation it will however incite a catastrophic shock to the debt ridden economy you will get a cascading default effect and I mean sovereign defaults, whole countries going bankrupt then you will be into a spiralling deflation, otherwise known as a depression Quote
Nationalist Posted July 12, 2022 Report Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: yes, the government is flooding the economy with cash but you are already seeing the limiting factor on that the inflation of the money supply is already starting to break things but the real problem is the massive debt because in order to contain the destructive effects of inflation you have to remove money from the system by raising interest rates the central bank raises its rates the banks then park their money at the central bank instead of loaning it out and that will stop the inflation it will however incite a catastrophic shock to the debt ridden economy you will get a cascading default effect and I mean sovereign defaults, whole countries going bankrupt then you will be into a spiralling deflation, otherwise known as a depression Which is exactly why I stopped saving money in the banks 2 years ago. I have my savings in silver and gold. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: Which is exactly why I stopped saving money in the banks 2 years ago. I have my savings in silver and gold. yeah, that's the only thing that pays in a secular bear market / depression and that will save Canada from going bankrupt basically we are in a massive tech bubble when that bubble pops, everything will shift back to commodities oil, gas, gold, crops, livestock so Canada won't default Canada survived the Great Depression and it will survive this next depression as well none the less, it will completely reorder politics in Canada, the culture itself will be altered in the process 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) bear in mind tho, in the near term, they are going to keep on printing money whatever they say about significant interest rises is a bluff we are going into a recession so they will reverse course and go back to quantitative easing to try to prop the asset bubbles up so in the near term, inflation will continue to be the problem they won't tighten voluntarily, eventually it will just be forced upon them by the bond markets the dollar itself comes under pressure, the currency itself starts to spiral the inflation starts to burn everything down, demand destruction, people can't afford to buy things this forces the central bank to cease buying Canada's bonds at artificially low rates at which point the market sets the price of Canada's debt, at a much higher rate this then gets passed through to you by the banks resetting from net negative rates to double digit rates, will incite a shock wave of cascading defaults then it becomes a spiral which is very difficult to reinflate, and that's a depression on the bright side, the prices for everything will be in free fall but that causes the economy to contract, resulting in massive job losses so even if everything is cheaper, you won't have a job to buy things even at those lower prices so this just feeds on itself, this is why it is so difficult to stop the slide once it starts businesses will not get returns on investment, so they stop investing this is sometimes called the Strike of Capital and in terms of government intervention to offset the void our governments are so massively in debt already, they just wont have the money to make a difference so you're talking about a crisis which will persist for more than a decade, plausibly a generation and that is how the culture will be altered upstream from politics the historical analogy would be the Long Depression 1873-1896 because the Great Depression was shortened only by the Second World War but we can't fight another war like that in the age of hydrogen bombs so even if we fight a war, it's not going to be an industrial war and post industrial wars are not job creators in essence, we have been pulling the prosperity of the future back to us in the now so we could live beyond our means in the now but now we are starting to arrive in the future which we have already plundered and there's no such thing as a free lunch, the piper will have to be paid Edited July 12, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Jack9000 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Harper governed as a centrist. Show me one “right wing” Harper policy. Sorry he didn’t seize property at gunpoint and redistribute it to commie layabouts. Lol they called scientists terrorists pro oil gas which is right wing also Harper didn't give a damn about environment or Atlantic Canada also. As bad as Harper was he would still be better then Pierre who has gone off the deep end . Wouldn't be surprised if what happened to Boris Johnson happens to Pierre down the road if he becomes pm. Party will get sick of him and force the boot. And For the last time Canada government is not commie Jesus dude incredible how people like this can even vote lol. Edited July 12, 2022 by Jack9000 Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Zeitgeist Posted July 14, 2022 Report Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 12:34 PM, Jack9000 said: Lol they called scientists terrorists pro oil gas which is right wing also Harper didn't give a damn about environment or Atlantic Canada also. As bad as Harper was he would still be better then Pierre who has gone off the deep end . Wouldn't be surprised if what happened to Boris Johnson happens to Pierre down the road if he becomes pm. Party will get sick of him and force the boot. And For the last time Canada government is not commie Jesus dude incredible how people like this can even vote lol. Oh no I can’t find my violin, the world’s smallest. Harper was right about the pseudoscientists. Also, Atlantic Canada? Quote
Jack9000 Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 1:12 AM, Zeitgeist said: Oh no I can’t find my violin, the world’s smallest. Harper was right about the pseudoscientists. Also, Atlantic Canada? Yea what's wrong with Atlantic Canada ? And no he wasn't right about scientists disgusting that you agree with him on that thanks for showing your true colors Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Nefarious Banana Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 CPC Leadership Ballot completed and mailed to-day. Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: Yea what's wrong with Atlantic Canada ? Quaint . . .in their backwardness. Somewhat frowned upon like the inebriated second uncle at the family picnic. Contribute nothing to the big picture, and after 300 years haven't mastered the English language. And then there's you . . . . . . . Quote
Zeitgeist Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 12 hours ago, Jack9000 said: Yea what's wrong with Atlantic Canada ? And no he wasn't right about scientists disgusting that you agree with him on that thanks for showing your true colors You just want handouts. 1 Quote
Jack9000 Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 9:06 PM, Nefarious Banana said: Quaint . . .in their backwardness. Somewhat frowned upon like the inebriated second uncle at the family picnic. Contribute nothing to the big picture, and after 300 years haven't mastered the English language. And then there's you . . . . . . . Atlantic Canada contributes alot more then you say it does dude Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Jack9000 Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 8:21 AM, Zeitgeist said: You just want handouts. Well I ain't a idiot why would I vote for someone who's not gonna help people aka Pierre Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Nefarious Banana Posted July 18, 2022 Report Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Jack9000 said: Atlantic Canada contributes alot more then you say it does dude Give some examples . . . . . . waiting. Quote
Jack9000 Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Give some examples . . . . . . waiting. Fishing Industry is huge tourism farming just as some examples but you just have hatred of Atlantic Canada no matter what anyway Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Nefarious Banana Posted July 18, 2022 Report Posted July 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: Fishing Industry is huge tourism farming just as some examples but you just have hatred of Atlantic Canada no matter what anyway What exactly do you contribute? Do you contribute some of that $$ under the table you collect while you collect pogey for seven (7) months of the year? Run along now . . . . mom's got your peanut butter sandwich ready for you. 1 Quote
Jack9000 Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said: What exactly do you contribute? Do you contribute some of that $$ under the table you collect while you collect pogey for seven (7) months of the year? Run along now . . . . mom's got your peanut butter sandwich ready for you. Nothing wrong with money under table ? Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Queenmandy85 Posted August 2, 2022 Report Posted August 2, 2022 I am afraid the CPC will once again split. Mr. Poilievre represents the continuing hostile take over of the Party by the Socreds started by Preston Manning. Regardless the outcome, the party will either lose some of the Conservative wing or most of the Social Credit rump. If Mr. Poilievre wins the leadership, Prime Minister Trudeau will continue in office for until at least 2029. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Zeitgeist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/2/2022 at 11:06 AM, Queenmandy85 said: I am afraid the CPC will once again split. Mr. Poilievre represents the continuing hostile take over of the Party by the Socreds started by Preston Manning. Regardless the outcome, the party will either lose some of the Conservative wing or most of the Social Credit rump. If Mr. Poilievre wins the leadership, Prime Minister Trudeau will continue in office for until at least 2029. I think PP has a good shot of beating Trudeau the more the public tires of him. I don’t think Poilievre is a saviour. In fact I’m concerned that he might take up the mushy middle as O’Toole did. We don’t need another Liberal Party. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted August 3, 2022 Report Posted August 3, 2022 Do you honestly believe people will vote for a yellow belly coward who is afraid to debate? I can overlook his affinity for the bolshevik Socialist Credit party, but to throw away $50,000 of other peoples' money out of fear shows what kind of a Prime Minister he would be. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Nefarious Banana Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Do you honestly believe people will vote for a yellow belly coward who is afraid to debate? I can overlook his affinity for the bolshevik Socialist Credit party, but to throw away $50,000 of other peoples' money out of fear shows what kind of a Prime Minister he would be. Queenie . . . . don't work yourself into a lather. Your Trudeau hid behind Mom's couch during the implementation of The War Measures Act against peaceful protesters. 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 I don't think Justin was even born when the War Measures Act was proclaimed. If you need an example of Pierre Trudeau's courage, look at the St. Jean Baptiste parade the night before the 1968 election. I never voted for the guy, (I had a tiny part in his defeat in 1979 ?) but he never struck me as the kind of person who hid behind his mom's couch. I just find it sad that the CPC would elect a Socialist Creditor as leader rather than a Conservative. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Nefarious Banana Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I don't think Justin was even born when the War Measures Act was proclaimed. You know exactly what was meant . . . . The War Measures Act . . . by another softer name: The Emergency Act. You can call a cow a horse, but everyone knows it's a cow. Justin Trudeau is a coward and a traitor. You're afraid of change, and people like you are what hold this country back. Thanks, thanks a lot . . . Quote
PIK Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 Trudeau is sinking. The man has ruined everything he has touch. The man can't even sell a passport. I don't think the left realize the shit storm that is coming. The only hope for both the NDP and Libs is to dump their leaders soon. But I have a feeling a snap election is coming in the fall. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Queenmandy85 Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 Why didn't you call it the Emergencies Act? I'm not a mind reader. How is Prime Minister Trudeau a coward or a traitor? Mr. O'Toole would have been a much better Prime Minister, but Prime Minister Trudeau hasn't been that bad. He was able to build all party support to fend off the Americans attempt to kill NAFTA and again all party support and all Provincial support to respond to the Covid pandemic. All my lather aside, I don't believe Mr. Poillievre would have been able to get all party support against the US and his actions regarding the public health emergency were less than impressive. I get the feeling some of the supporters of the Ottawa occupation would have been in favour of former Prime Minister Trudeau sitting down and chatting with the FLQ. What do you do with bleeding hearts who don't like the look of Police Officers enforcing a court order with reasonable force? ... "go on and bleed, but it's more important to keep law and order in this society than to be worried about weak-kneed people who don't like the looks of"... police officers enforcing the order of the Court. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Yzermandius19 Posted August 4, 2022 Report Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: I don't think Justin was even born when the War Measures Act was proclaimed. If you need an example of Pierre Trudeau's courage, look at the St. Jean Baptiste parade the night before the 1968 election. I never voted for the guy, (I had a tiny part in his defeat in 1979 ?) but he never struck me as the kind of person who hid behind his mom's couch. I just find it sad that the CPC would elect a Socialist Creditor as leader rather than a Conservative. you don't want a conservative to win none are running you can't even stand the thought of the least liberal conservative who's running actually winning you see that as too extreme you want a blue liberal cuck to win the closer an actual alternative to the Laurentian Liberal consensus comes to winning the more you cry bloody murder classic Canadian fake conservative over 9000 Edited August 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote
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