Is Trudeau the most unCanadian Prime Minister ever?

[QuebecOverCanada]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The Trudeaus claim 1600s in one spelling form or another. The whole place is old money. Remember the Fleur dis Lis is from OLD France...pre 1789. You should know that. Old money that didn't get the chop. 

Why was the E before the T in PET?

[Nationalist]

50 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

How am I a fraud?

Am I supposed to, just because I don't like Trudeau, to immediately follow and agree to everything the opposition to Trudeau says, like you saying that Trudeau called hockey players as a whole terrorists? Do you read what you post?

Here's the thing I think you're missing. Pixie-Dust says things that are dangerous. He has most certainly done all that West has said and more. Is he the worst PM ever? I only remember since the 60s bit since then...even Joe Who was more responsible. 

I don't know for sure if the li'l tyke believes the crap he says and does, but I'm pretty bloody sure he has access to the facts and raw data. 

He's spent so much time and effort scaring the hell outta people, that now he's left with a base that's convinced the sky is falling.

And now...when he's called on his fear porn...he bravely sticks his tail between his legs and crawls away.

The unfortunate remaining seed of Pierre...is a fucking jack-ass!

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I know you will probably not understand my intentions of what I'm writing but I am confident that at least you're reading me. You're becoming a sad caricature of all the Right wing grifters on the Internet who despise you just as much as Trudeau and you're becoming a living embodiment of a Boomer Facebook newsfeed. You're parroting talking points, and are making quite a fool of yourself. It is because you are lonely and are going too much on the Internet/are only watching opinions of the grifters on the Right.

Is his post any worse than this:

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“We all know people who are deciding whether or not they are willing to get vaccinated, and we will do our very best to try to convince them. However, there is still a part of the population (that) is fiercely against it. 

“They don’t believe in science/progress [1] and are very often misogynistic [2] and racist [3]. It’s a very small group of people, but that doesn’t shy away from the fact that they take up some space [4]. 

“This leads us, as a leader and as a country, to make a choice: Do we tolerate these people [5]? 

I think not.

Trudeau's frothy-mouthed hate speech is a collection of wildly slanderous and off-base accusations, followed by a sinister comment that's tantamount to a call to action.

Honestly, saying "should we tolerate these people" is asking whether or not they should be protected from violence. And now the convoy was rammed by some loser with a truck, and a car ran over 4 protesters in Winnipeg. Those are two clear examples of what happens to people "when we no longer tolerate them."

You're holding a random internet poster to a higher standard than our own PM is held to. 

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Why was the E before the T in PET?

 

Why aren't his dozen other middle names?

[CITIZEN_2015]

Trudeau represents all the values which are Canadian values like believing in democracy, equality, anti-racism, respect for the  neighbor, welcoming to immigrants,  guarding Canadian values as well as many others. It is the far right which is unCanadian.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau represents all the values which are Canadian values like believing in democracy, equality, anti-racism, respect for the  neighbor, welcoming to immigrants,  guarding Canadian values as well as many others. It is the far right which is unCanadian.

Oh my. What Canadian values might we be talkin' 'bout here?

Democracy? Well considering the uncalled for mandates and endless lying...not really huh?

Lemme tell ya something there you poor misguided sod...Justin doesn't give a rat's ass about you or me or most citizens. All the li'l twerp cares about is the dividends from the Quebec Power Corporation...which happens to be mostly owned by...the Chinese.

Pixie-Dust is nothing more than a manchurian candidate who would just as soon spit on you instead of work for you...

Or this nation.

[TrudeauSucks]

20 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau represents all the values which are Canadian values like believing in democracy, equality, anti-racism, respect for the  neighbor, welcoming to immigrants,  guarding Canadian values as well as many others. It is the far right which is unCanadian.

He only welcomes those immigrants so he can flood the housing market with desperate buyers, then use the environmental laws to curtail new construction. Housing prices expload, and his wealthy friends pay off their property debts through inflation. It's all a game to these entitled snobs, but hey "Don't worry about the recent homeless problem, or overdoses"

Let's welcome 400000 immigrants at the height of a pandemic, wait for the sawmills to close, and use them as human pawns in a well-orchestrated Real Estate pump and dump. Got to love a good Ponzi Scheme.

Edited February 8, 2022 by TrudeauSucks

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau represents all the values which are Canadian values like believing in democracy, equality, anti-racism, respect for the  neighbor, welcoming to immigrants,  guarding Canadian values as well as many others. It is the far right which is unCanadian.

You know that what you just said is 100% total bullshit which can easily be disproven, right?

Trudeau's "anti-vaxer" speech meets every single criterion of the dictionary definition of bigotry. He even said that people who don't get the pseudovaxes are just taking up space, and asked if they should be tolerated.

FYI there's no basis for him to brand people as racists and misogynists just for choosing not to get the Pfizer/Moderna shot. None at all, and he never even tried to offer any proof. He just made serious accusations without a shred of substantiating evidence. He's a god-damned hate monger, plain and simple. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that themselves is just a total moron or a hatemonger themselves. 

Do you understand this stuff citizen, or do you have some proof of all the things that Trudeau said? 

[CITIZEN_2015]

Trudeau is the elected Prime Minister of Canada so eat your hearts.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I think Trudeau father was an elitist tyrant, his war measures were uncalled for and he almost broke the country with this act alone.

There are lots of reasons to hate PET, but I've never heard that take on him declaring the war measures. Why do you say that it almost broke the country?

I was 2 when it happened, so I have no actual memories of the time, and I've never heard a Quebecois POV on the matter first hand before.

I do not have a full understanding of the issue, but this is what came up when I googled October Crisis 1970 timeline:

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The October Crisis refers to a chain of events that took place in Quebec in the fall of 1970. The crisis was the culmination of a long series of terrorist attacks perpetrated by the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ), a militant Quebec independence movement. Felquistes were responsible for more than 200 bombings and dozens of robberies between 1963 and 1970 that left six people dead. Their actions culminated in the kidnapping of British trade commissioner James Cross and the kidnapping and subsequent murder of Quebec cabinet minister Pierre Laporte in October 1970. Prime Minister Pierre Trudeaudeployed the Armed Forces and invoked the War Measures Act — the only time it has been applied during peacetime in Canadian history.

Is that accurate? I'm sure that even if what's written there actually happened, there's also a lot missing. I'm not dumb enough to believe that anything I read, which is of a political nature, is accurate and not missing any pertinent information. 

I personally don't think that using the war measures act seems unwarranted considering all of the things that were going on, but like I said, my personal knowledge of this issue is not worth mentioning. 

What's the deal? 

[TrudeauSucks]

5 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau is the elected Prime Minister of Canada so eat your hearts.

How can you defend such a narcasist, with such a narcasistic comment?

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau is the elected Prime Minister of Canada so eat your hearts.

So you just lavished praise on his pure & unbigoted precious heart, and now you're unable to mount even the slightest defence against an accusation of hostile bigotry by him, complete with his own actual quote proving the allegation to be true.

Is that where we're at?

Does your hasty retreat tell us that your new opinion has changed to "Yes, he's a vile bigot, but he's still our PM ?"? 

Yeah, I'm keeping score.  

[CITIZEN_2015]

 

44 minutes ago, TrudeauSucks said:

How can you defend such a narcasist, with such a narcasistic comment?

I was saying simple fact that you had your vote 6 months ago and so did I and I won. You will have your chance again in the next general election to remove him as PM but only through ballet boxes not sedition and disruption and illegal blocking of streets.

Edited February 8, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[WestCanMan]

44 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

 

I was saying 

Nah. My answer was better.

When you were challenged to defend your blatantly false comments you had no answer at all, so your post boiled down to: "Yes, Justin Trudeau is a vile bigot, but he's still our PM ?"

[Nefarious Banana]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

The worse joke of Canada is claiming you are its representative all by yourself, incidentally in your dwelling or living room. You are part of it, but you are not the only one having an opinion here. Many agree Trudeau and his father have and had flaws, major ones. But criticizing a sane way is mandatory if you want one day to get rid of him; wording precise, concise, legitimate criticism hits much more than a rambling with no goal whatsoever except to vent. 

"Olol Trudeau is super evil he treats every hocker player as a terrorist" hits much less than "Trudeau called protestors who were engaging in sports games in the streets of Ottawa as being violent protesters when almost no acts of violence happened during demonstrations".

Can the cowboy in the picture, or yourself, comprehend that?

Lots of text above . . . signifying nothing. 

My contempt for Quebec and its vile spawn Trudeau remains.  Carry on.

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honestly, saying "should we tolerate these people" is asking whether or not they should be protected from violence.

It's a truly reprehensible thing to say. I think it shocked most Canadians, those that heard it.

With his hate speech, Mr. Trudeau has blackened his own reputation. Besmirched himself. Stained his legacy. Besmeared his image, with a black stain.

So to the OP's question, I daresay yes. Hella yes.

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

It's a truly reprehensible thing to say. I think it shocked most Canadians, those that heard it.

Yet our MSM ignored it.

Can you imagine the hyperbole that we'd be hearing right now if Poilievre said those exact words about [name any group of humans on earth here]s?

If he talked like that about sewer rats our MSM would be talking about the end of days. But Trudeau unleashed the most vile hate speech from the leader of a western nation since 1940 and our MSM didn't even blink. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

It's a truly reprehensible thing to say. I think it shocked most Canadians, those that heard it.

With his hate speech, Mr. Trudeau has blackened his own reputation. Besmirched himself. Stained his legacy. Besmeared his image, with a black stain.

So to the OP's question, I daresay yes. Hella yes.

 

It’s clear here that Trudeau thinks that certain Canadians should have their constitutional rights removed, namely those who won’t accept a government-mandated health regimen.  I think this kind of rhetoric makes smart Canadians question the value of current universal healthcare in Canada.  If government-provided healthcare is rationed care, prescribed and imposed centrally, punishable by loss of basic constitutional freedoms, where are we as a democracy?   No thanks.  I’ll pay more to have personal discretion.  If our healthcare system can’t support our Charter-protected rights, replace or fix it in a hurry.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Yzermandius19]

Justin Trudeau is in fact the most Canadian PM ever

he simply exposes Canada for what it always was due to his bumbling incompetence

which prevents the steel fist from being hidden by the velvet glove

this bursts the bubble on what people mistakenly thought Canada was

the Potemkin Nation is now becoming visible to many

 

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

The answer is 'no'.  Canada did fairly well during the pandemic, led by a Prime Minister who listened to experts and got us through.  I very much doubt i will vote for him, but this spawn of Quebec, Ontario and BC is very Canadian.

My vote for unCanadian PM is Sir MacKenzie Bowell - scandal monger

 

[Yzermandius19]

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Canada did fairly well during the pandemic, led by a Prime Minister who listened to experts and got us through. 

both are laughable assertions

Canada shat the bed

Trudeau dismissed science to pander to voters who have no grasp of science

the pandemic response was entirely politically driven and had nothing to do with science

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

27 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Canada shat the bed

Mortality rates vs other wealthy country says otherwise.

I know you probably hate Trudeau, I am also not a fan, but don't let your burgeoning emotions get in the way of facts or you will be doomed to unhappiness in this life.

[OftenWrong]

Let's face it, none of us likes what's going on in Canada, actually for years now. There was a vision of what is Canadian starting to coalesce out of the fog of confederation. That was a people who tolerated others and accepted their presence in the community, but as Canadians with similar like-minded values of course. Those values are broad in general and support a society through law. It's a nation. If there is anything we are, it should be about that.

That's why what Mr. Trudeau has been saying, along with several premiers in this country is antithesis of Canadian culture itself. There is only one person to blame when he himself speaks openly about not tolerating others. He wants me to not tolerate. This is coming from the highest level of government, the top man in Canada.

That is why he is un-Canadian. He is a national disgrace and should be forced to step down. Let the name of JT be stricken from every book, removed from every wall and monument.

Edited February 8, 2022 by OftenWrong

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Mortality rates vs other wealthy country says otherwise.

I know you probably hate Trudeau, I am also not a fan, but don't let your burgeoning emotions get in the way of facts or you will be doomed to unhappiness in this life.

low population density is why

not government competence

you clown

the government made the problem much worse

as usual

[Zeitgeist]

I’ll give the federal government and most provincial governments the benefit of a doubt for the first year of the pandemic up to the point when all adults had the opportunity to become fully-vaccinated.  After that all mandates and restrictions should’ve disappeared.   We never should’ve had vaccine passports, which are an affront to our health discretion and other constitutional rights.   They’ve created a two-tier society.  Watching Trudeau defend the continued suspension of our Charter rights when 90% of adults are fully-vaccinated is like watching a dictator tell the people that most people stayed home during lockdowns so everyone should stay home under permanent lockdown.

Mandates and restrictions, certainly including masking and vaccination requirements, were never supposed to be permanent.  It will be increasingly hard for Trudeau and the premiers to defend vaccine requirements, because most people will demand some personal choice over how many jabs to take, how often, or whether they’re necessary at all, especially after already accepting two or three jabs.

Trudeau and all governments have to give up vaccination requirements and vaccine passports.  The truckers are right to stand up for the right of all Canadians to medical discretion.  Promotion of treatment is one thing.  If the virus wasn’t transmitted by vaccinated people and the vaccine offered permanent complete protection, there would be a better case for mandates, but even then it would be hard to make the case that people who have the tools to protect themselves from Covid, the vaccinated, should impose their health choice on the unvaccinated.

We now know the reality of the incomplete protection from vaccination and the counter-productivity of over-vaccination.  Trudeau would be wise to back off vaccine mandates on moral and constitutional grounds, but also because the truck convoy isn’t going to relent on vaccine mandates — thankfully.  Canadians’ Charter rights must be restored.