eyeball Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 3:54 PM, DogOnPorch said: Emergency forever. C'mon, you've known this has been coming for years now. Why I bet the vindication alone almost makes it worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: the Liberals aren't centrist and most of the useful idiots can't be reasoned with either you are wasting your time in most cases there are a few outliers it's worth trying to reach but there is not a large group that can be swayed y'all give the libbies way to much credit wishful thinking is a helluva drug Dude, I'm a Nationalist. I will always side with common sense and truth, but I also have to attempt national unity, or I'm not being true to my own political beliefs. Just watch. The Type 2s will come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: it's Trudeau bro he's one of the unreasonable far left commies who only engages in bad faith he's allergic to valid concerns Agreed. Pixie-Dust must be dispensed with. I think the Centerists are beginning to see that now. Nobody likes a coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Dude, I'm a Nationalist. I will always side with common sense and truth, but I also have to attempt national unity, or I'm not being true to my own political beliefs. Just watch. The Type 2s will come around. Canada hates freedom the useful idiots aren't going to become freedom lovers don't have to like every nation to be a Nationalist Canada isn't worthy of your support it would be better off as several different nations than united the whole is less than the sum of it's parts it's the North American version of the EU Canexit FTW Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Canada hates freedom the useful idiots aren't going to become freedom lovers don't have to like every nation to be Nationalist Canada isn't worthy of your support it would be better off as several different nations than united Canadians don't hate freedom. That's your frustration talking. Most Canucks have been terrorized by a constant barrage of 'AHHH...WE ALL GONNA DIE!' BS. The media has been pounding on that one for 2 years now. They've believed it because...'Why would they lie?'. But now they're starting to see that the media has been lying all along. 'Why' is now irrelevant. It's what the really evil among us never considered. Canucks may appear a little too easy going, but we love our gem of a land and will defend the society we've built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Canadians don't hate freedom. That's your frustration talking. Most Canucks have been terrorized by a constant barrage of 'AHHH...WE ALL GONNA DIE!' BS. The media has been pounding on that one for 2 years now. They've believed it because...'Why would they lie?'. But now they're starting to see that the media has been lying all along. 'Why' is now irrelevant. It's what the really evil among us never considered. Canucks may appear a little too easy going, but we love our gem of a land and will defend the society we've built. they hate freedom and have long before the pandemic the totalitarian impulse was always there Canada would never have become a nation if it didn't hate freedom the "threat" of freedom scared it into Confederation Canadians believe the media propaganda that the restrictions are necessary because it plays into their anti-freedom confirmation bias freedom scares them more than covid Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: they hate freedom and have long before the pandemic the totalitarian impulse was always there Canada would never have become a nation if it didn't hate freedom the "threat" of freedom scared it into Confederation Dude...smoke a "J" and calm down. You're resorting to nonsense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Dude...smoke a "J" and calm down. You're resorting to nonsense now. Canadian history is not nonsense you simply don't know the story of the people who you are nationalist for which is a shaky foundation to build a sense of nationalism on being reactionary against liberty is the core of Canada's identity without that, nothing binds Canada together at all @Zeitgeist knows he was the foremost Canadian nationalist on this forum more gungho for Canada than you by several orders of magnitude before me and Dougie93 redpilled him on Canada and look at him now he openly admits we were right about Canada all along Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Canada was formed due to the Union victory in 1865...not some other reason. One million trained veterans...looking for something to do. Who gets their comeuppance? The Mexicans? Nah...did them already. The British? Let's finish this once and for all. Wait...those Redskins are actually in the way. Let's do them first. And so it was written...Canada...an new more-or-less pro-US entity...not Britain damnit (that's not us!)...was created. Edited February 9, 2022 by DogOnPorch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Canada was formed due to the Union victory in 1865...not some other reason. One million trained veterans...looking for something to do. Who gets their comeuppance? The Mexicans? Nah...did them already. The British? Let's finish this once and for all. Wait...those Redskins are actually in the way. Let's do them first. And so it was written...Canada...an new more-or-less pro-US entity...not Britain damnit (that's not us!)...was created. an iron curtain against American freedom America Derangement Syndrome drives Confederation the idea that Canada was anti-Britain and pro-US is not accurate at all Britain kicked Canada out, refused to defend them from America so Canada freaked out and Confederated to defend itself from America Canada very much wanted to be under the protection of Britain you are misunderstanding Confederation by viewing it through an American filter which doesn't apply Canada tried to overcompensate by trying to be more British than British to prove to the British they were still British Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Canadian history is not nonsense you simply don't know the story of the people who you are nationalist for which is a shaky foundation to build a sense of nationalism on being reactionary against liberty is the core of Canada's identity without that, nothing binds Canada together at all @Zeitgeist knows he was the foremost Canadian nationalist on this forum more gungho for Canada than you by several orders of magnitude before me and Dougie93 redpilled him on Canada and look at him now he openly admits we were right about Canada all along Why do you insist on crapping on Canada...I wonder? Have we slighted you in some inexcusable way? While there are things I would have done differently with the Charter...property rights being the biggest gripe I have...the Charter outlines our freedoms and forms the base for our legal system. Pixie-Dust is trying to over-ride the standards his own father produced. And I disagree with you about Zeitgeist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: an iron curtain against American freedom America Derangement Syndrome drives Confederation the idea that Canada was anti-Britain and pro-US is not accurate at all Britain kicked Canada out, refused to defend them from America so Canada freaked out and Confederated to defend itself from America Canada very much wanted to be under the protection of Britain you are misunderstanding Confederation by viewing it through an American filter which doesn't apply Canada tried to overcompensate by trying to be more British than British to prove to the British they were still British We couldn't be 'publicly' seen supporting Great Britain after it threw its lot in with the Confederacy during the war. That was going down the ol' memory hole right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: Why do you insist on crapping on Canada...I wonder? Have we slighted you in some inexcusable way? While there are things I would have done differently with the Charter...property rights being the biggest gripe I have...the Charter outlines our freedoms and forms the base for our legal system. Pixie-Dust is trying to over-ride the standards his own father produced. And I disagree with you about Zeitgeist. I crap on Canada because it hates freedom it was created to keep freedom out and continues to get more anti-liberty as it goes you can disagree with me about Zeitgeist all you want no member of this forum has written more or better glowing endorsements of Canadian nationalism than him now he craps on Canada more than anyone but me and rightfully so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: We couldn't be 'publicly' seen supporting Great Britain after it threw its lot in with the Confederacy during the war. That was going down the ol' memory hole right now! Canada threw it's lot in with the Confederacy too they had no beef with Britain having done so they still publicly supported Britain you sir are fake news nostalgia for a Canada that never was over 9000 Canadians didn't turn against Britain Britain turned against them they had more important colonies to worry about like India Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: I crap on Canada because it hates freedom it was created to keep freedom out and continues to get more anti-liberty as it goes you can disagree with me about Zeitgeist all you want no member of this forum has written more or better glowing endorsements of Canadian nationalism than him now he craps on Canada more than anyone but me and rightfully so Well then, you and I will have to agree to disagree. One thing's for sure though...we're liable to have some very interesting debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Well then, you and I will have to agree to disagree. One thing's for sure though...we're liable to have some very interesting debates. as did me and Zeitgeist he came around in the end though Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 I love Canada strong and free. If we’re going to remain under totalitarian controls like vaccine passports and state-influenced media, then I’d rather see Confederation unravel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Canada threw it's lot in with the Confederacy too they had no beef with Britain having done so they still publicly supported Britain you sir are fake news Technically yes...though no military action occurred between Britain and the US directly. That came in the form of souped-up blockade runners...fast sloops and brigs that would bring in guns to the South under no flag (mercenaries more or less) and then take cotton out to the cotton mills of Europe...Canada etc. I'm sure 'Canadians' were involved...native born colonials looking to make good money. High adventure, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: If we’re going to remain under totalitarian controls, then I’d rather see Confederation unravel. Zeitgeist: "look at me, look at me, I am the Dougie now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Technically yes...though no military action occurred between Britain and the US directly. That came in the form of souped-up blockade runners...fast sloops and brigs that would bring in guns to the South under no flag (mercenaries more or less) and then take cotton out to the cotton mills of Europe...Canada etc. I'm sure 'Canadians' were involved...native born colonials looking to make good money. High adventure, I'm sure. Toronto was the home away from home of the Confederacy lots of high ranking Confederates sought refuge there Canada's America Derangement Syndrome extended to reactionary support of the Confederates because they were still pissed off at the Yankees about the War of 1812 Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 As for Canada, it painted itself as anything BUT a threat to the US as it solidified along the 49th. And out on the high prairie, it was really hard to tell where one started and the other ended. My old grandfather literally wandered into Canada from Montana and just set up shop. Voila...a Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: As for Canada, it painted itself as anything BUT a threat to the US as it solidified along the 49th. And out on the high prairie, it was really hard to tell where one started and the other ended. My old grandfather literally wandered into Canada from Montana and just set up shop. Voila...a Canadian. Canada never was a threat to America Canada confederated as a survival measure to deter American invasion after Britain said they wouldn't back them in that eventuality because Britain was scared shitless of the Union too and Canada was expendable af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Sure...I agree. We're not at odds...you realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Sure...I agree. We're not at odds...you realize. people think Canada was anti-slavery so they must have supported the Union against the Confederates but their anti-Union sentiment was far greater than their hatred of slavery hence why Canada hates liberty Canada is reactionary against things that America champions America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug to the point that they then adopted the Confederate model to defend against the Union hence "Confederation" Canada is the confederacy that won the war and lived to tell the tale Edited February 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: people think Canada was anti-slavery so they must have supported the Union but their anti-Union sentiment was far greater than their hatred of slavery hence why Canada hates liberty Canada is reactionary against things that America champions America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug Oh gosh no. Great Britain was not so much pro-slavery...they weren't. But they were very much pro-cotton with which their base economy ran on (along with wool). That's why Lincoln was brilliant by switching the casa belli to slavery rather than states' rights or King Cotton. It forced Britain to back right off with the multitude of blockade runners that kept the South armed and prolonged the war greatly. Edited February 9, 2022 by DogOnPorch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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