Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Everyone has a right in Canada to film the police while on duty. Know your rights. They can't tell you to turn your camera off, it's the only thing we have to protect ourselves. Many Canadian police, including Ottawa police, don't wear body cameras. In court it's their word against yours. Don't interact with police without your cell camera running. This includes during a traffic stop. Unless you're driving a car you don't have to give them your name, date of birth, where you live, show them your ID etc. unless you are being legally detained and they have reasonable grounds to suspect you have committed a crime. You can deny such a request. You don't have to answer any of their questions. During a traffic stop they have no authority to check inside your vehicle unless they have a warrant or you have committed some kind of crime that would warrant a car search. A cop may ask "is it ok if I look in your trunk?" etc. Do not consent, they want you to waive your rights. They need your consent to search without a warrant and without cause. Know your rights. Also DON'T TRY TO PULL THIS IF YOU ARE BLACK OR INDIGENOUS Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: No, the leaders are... Specifics matter ? At least 2 of the leaders are, without a doubt. That Pat King is a raging anti-semite. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Also DON'T TRY TO PULL THIS OF YOU ARE BLACK OR INDIGENOUS I would say EVER MORE THE REASON TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA RUNNING. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: This is who these Liberals are: *Cough* all of this legislation came during the Harper government... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Moonlight Graham said: I would say EVER MORE THE REASON TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA RUNNING. To get the camera confiscated and lost and you beaten... ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I doubt that they're taking the time to collect this from cops in other jurisdictions like Vancouver https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-body-worn-1.6236705 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: *Cough* all of this legislation came during the Harper government... Uhh what? Links? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: At least 2 of the leaders are, without a doubt. That Pat King is a raging anti-semite. And the thing is... the frustration and popular support is real to a point... But corrupt, disorganized leaders ? If we wanted that, then why would we be disappointed with the main parties ??? ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Moonlight Graham said: Uhh what? Links? You just asked for that last week. Bro... Your memory... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: To get the camera confiscated and lost and you beaten... ? Stream the feed live to your Youtube account. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Michael Hardner said: You just asked for that last week. Bro... Your memory... So no links? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: And the thing is... the frustration and popular support is real to a point... But corrupt, disorganized leaders ? If we wanted that, then why would we be disappointed with the main parties ??? ? Well I don't defend these leaders. I don't even defend the convoy when they park illegally. 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Aristides Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Everyone has a right in Canada to film the police while on duty. Know your rights. They can't tell you to turn your camera off, it's the only thing we have to protect ourselves. Many Canadian police, including Ottawa police, don't wear body cameras. In court it's their word against yours. Don't interact with police without your cell camera running. This includes during a traffic stop. Unless you're driving a car you don't have to give them your name, date of birth, where you live, show them your ID etc. unless you are being legally detained and they have reasonable grounds to suspect you have committed a crime. You can deny such a request. You don't have to answer any of their questions. During a traffic stop they have no authority to check inside your vehicle unless they have a warrant or you have committed some kind of crime that would warrant a car search. A cop may ask "is it ok if I look in your trunk?" etc. Do not consent, they want you to waive your rights. They need your consent to search without a warrant and without cause. Know your rights. Must suck to be that paranoid. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: Stream the feed live to your Youtube account. Better... And frankly the police seem to be more savvy on such things 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Goddess Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: At least 2 of the leaders are, without a doubt. That Pat King is a raging anti-semite. He is not one of the leaders or one of the organizers. He is a dude who has been fighting the mandates for a long time and joined the protest. To find a video he made 4 years ago and attribute his comments to the entire protest is asinine. It was just being used as an excuse to shut the protest down and not listen to their concerns. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Must suck to be that paranoid. Cops NEVER abuse their power. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: So no links? I found a years old thread with you in it remember? I'm on my phone... Don't feel like spending 10 minutes searching sorry.. you must remember. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Aristides Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: Cops NEVER abuse their power. Sometimes they do but still, it must suck to be that paranoid. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: He is not one of the leaders or one of the organizers. He is a dude who has been fighting the mandates for a long time and joined the protest. To find a video he made 4 years ago and attribute his comments to the entire protest is asinine. It was just being used as an excuse to shut the protest down and not listen to their concerns. I think he was a main contact for truckers in Ontario with Canada Unity or whatever they are. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Goddess said: He is not one of the leaders or one of the organizers. Wrong. You are following a pathological liar. I guess to you, it's better than ever admitting that you could be wrong about something. https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/the-former-sault-man-at-the-heart-of-the-trucker-convoy-5045377 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
DogOnPorch Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: He is not one of the leaders or one of the organizers. He is a dude who has been fighting the mandates for a long time and joined the protest. To find a video he made 4 years ago and attribute his comments to the entire protest is asinine. It was just being used as an excuse to shut the protest down and not listen to their concerns. Hadn't a clue he existed until arrested. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Goddess Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Wrong. You are following a pathological liar. I guess to you, it's better than ever admitting that you could be wrong about something. https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/the-former-sault-man-at-the-heart-of-the-trucker-convoy-5045377 It's you following the liars. That man was never at one briefing, meeting or interview with the organizers. His name is not on even one of the documents provided. He's a loud-mouth attention seeker and his views in some youtube from 4 years ago had nothing to do with the convoy. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Incidentally, 7 of the provinces said they did not need or want the Emergency Measures Act. And you still think Trudeau is acting on what Canadians want? Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Here's the page listing King as an organizer... The all-star 'being wrong' team continues with its streak... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Goddess Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I think he was a main contact for truckers in Ontario with Canada Unity or whatever they are. The convoy organizers sent out several press releases saying that he has nothing to do with them. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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