August1991 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 I know a guy, 50 years old, born in Canada around 1970, now on "disability" CPP - he receives $1200/month - living well in Asia. I know a woman, born abroad, who chose to live in Canada, simply to be here - to get a Cdn passport. ====== What is a "Canadian citizen"? Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) Anyone who: a. was born in Canada b. passes the criteria for citizenship according to law, and swears to bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen of Canada and her Heirs and successors. c. there are other circumstances regarding parents being Canadian but you should consult with a legal professional for details. I'm just a simple potter. Edited December 5, 2020 by Queenmandy85 2 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
QuebecOverCanada Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Anyone who passes the criteria for citizenship according to law, and swears to bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen of Canada and her Heirs and successors. Bahahahaha I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Canadians are just subjects being the property of the Canadian government. Most Quebecers do not care at all about the Queen, but are Canadians on paper. 1 Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Yes, down with the queen! Quote
Argus Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 10 hours ago, August1991 said: I know a guy, 50 years old, born in Canada around 1970, now on "disability" CPP - he receives $1200/month - living well in Asia. I know a woman, born abroad, who chose to live in Canada, simply to be here - to get a Cdn passport. ====== What is a "Canadian citizen"? I am. And anyone like me. The rest of you can drop dead. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) I'm a Canadian citizen. I got my first passport in 1987 and I still want Great Britain to get more medals than Canada at the Olympics. I would want England to beat Canada at ice hockey, too. National identity is a weird thing. You don't get to choose it. I do appreciate all the space though. Edited December 5, 2020 by bcsapper Quote
Argus Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I'm a Canadian citizen. I got my first passport in 1987 and I still want Great Britain to get more medals than Canada at the Olympics. I would want England to beat Canada at ice hockey, too. National identity is a weird thing. You don't get to choose it. I do appreciate all the space though. Goddam foreigner! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Nefarious Banana Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 3 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Bahahahaha I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Canadians are just subjects being the property of the Canadian government. Most Quebecers do not care at all about the Queen, but are Canadians on paper. Never got over 'The Plains of Abraham' . . . . french got their sorry arse's handed to them on a platter by the English. Bahahahaha Quote
Army Guy Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 4 hours ago, bcsapper said: I'm a Canadian citizen. I got my first passport in 1987 and I still want Great Britain to get more medals than Canada at the Olympics. I would want England to beat Canada at ice hockey, too. National identity is a weird thing. You don't get to choose it. I do appreciate all the space though. Really Britian beat team Canada at hockey... be like Canada beating Britain at soccer... it is not going to happen... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted December 5, 2020 Report Posted December 5, 2020 6 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Bahahahaha I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Canadians are just subjects being the property of the Canadian government. Most Quebecers do not care at all about the Queen, but are Canadians on paper. And yet Quebec has fielded some of the finest soldiers During WWI, And WWII and Korea ....fighting under the Queens Colors such as the Royal 22 Infantry Regiment (vandoos) and still populates some of the most decorated Military units within Canada. And they do it with pride, and honor. 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonlight Graham Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 10 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Bahahahaha I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Canadians are just subjects being the property of the Canadian government. Most Quebecers do not care at all about the Queen, but are Canadians on paper. Canada is not governed nor has any legal connection in any way whatsoever to the British Crown. Our Crown is called the Canadian Crown, and our Queen's official title is "Queen of Canada". Don't worry, you're not a British subject. 1 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said: Yes, down with the queen! Why? 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, bcsapper said: I'm a Canadian citizen. I got my first passport in 1987 and I still want Great Britain to get more medals than Canada at the Olympics. I would want England to beat Canada at ice hockey, too. National identity is a weird thing. You don't get to choose it. I do appreciate all the space though. You're a Canadian by title only. You abuse all of the rights and privileges of citizenship for selfish gain while spitting on the main responsibility we ask of you: allegiance. You would not be a Canadian citizen if were Prime Minister. All of the rats would be exposed in writing and for the public to view. Nobody would get a passport or a vote without swearing true allegiance to Canada and denouncing all foreign loyalties and allegiances each and every time. All foreign citizenships would be revoked. Maybe one day the rats would be exposed, and the liars of the oath jailed as traitors or else kicked out. Count yourself lucky that most of our politicians are far more cowardly than I. Carry your passport well, it is property of the Queen you disavow. Long live the Queen of Canada. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: You're a Canadian by title only. You abuse all of the rights and privileges of citizenship for selfish gain while spitting on the main responsibility we ask of you: allegiance. You would not be a Canadian citizen if were Prime Minister. All of the rats would be exposed in writing and for the public to view. Nobody would get a passport or a vote without swearing true allegiance to Canada and denouncing all foreign loyalties and allegiances each and every time. All foreign citizenships would be revoked. Maybe one day the rats would be exposed, and the liars of the oath jailed as traitors or else kicked out. Count yourself lucky that most of our politicians are far more cowardly than I. Carry your passport well, it is property of the Queen you disavow. Long live the Queen of Canada. I took the oath. Ice hockey and the Olympics weren't mentioned, if I remember correctly. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: I took the oath. Ice hockey and the Olympics weren't mentioned, if I remember correctly. You took an oath of allegiance to the Queen of Canada, not the Queen of Britain. Read the contract before you sign it. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: You took an oath of allegiance to the Queen of Canada, not the Queen of Britain. Read the contract before you sign it. She would want England to win too. Quote
cougar Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 17 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: b. ............and swears to bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen of Canada and her Heirs and successors. I live on Indian land; I guess I have to swear allegiance to the hereditary chiefs. But something tells me those chiefs care as much about the queen as the queen cared about them. Quote
OftenWrong Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 6 hours ago, cougar said: I live on Indian land; I guess I have to swear allegiance to the hereditary chiefs. But something tells me those chiefs care as much about the queen as the queen cared about them. I agree. But I also wonder sometimes, as an outsider of course, if those chiefs care as little about you as they care about her. What is your opinion? 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 19 hours ago, bcsapper said: She would want England to win too. LOL. Then off with her head. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Argus Posted December 6, 2020 Report Posted December 6, 2020 If you want to become a citizen in Switzerland you need to immigrate legally and then be a resident for ten years first. In Canada it's three of the last five years. So you can be bouncing back and forth, and do not have to make a commitment to live here permanently. And by the way, we don't keep track of people when they leave. So we'll trust your word. Which means, particularly with Chinese who simply want the passport as a kind of backup, as a just-in-case escape, that they'll send in the paperwork, show up (we do record when you arrive), and then leave for 'home' again. Three years later, after claiming you were here the whole time, you get your citizenship, can get your passport, and then file it away in your desk drawer 'just in case'. Companies like Marcus' will help you out with that. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCanMan Posted December 7, 2020 Report Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 5:40 AM, QuebecOverCanada said: Bahahahaha I have a Canadian passport but would never, ever, bear allegiance to the Queen and the British Crown. Canadians are just subjects being the property of the Canadian government. Most Quebecers do not care at all about the Queen, but are Canadians on paper. Most western Canadians are even less fond of Trudeau than Quebecers are of the Queen, by a large margin. If western Canada was to separate though, I couldn't care less if we severed ties with the commonwealth. The young royals are bobbleheads at best. I'd be embarrassed to have Charles or William as 'our King' lol. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Argus Posted December 7, 2020 Report Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If western Canada was to separate though, I couldn't care less if we severed ties with the commonwealth. The young royals are bobbleheads at best. I'd be embarrassed to have Charles or William as 'our King' lol. Understandable, given you're a guy who worships Trump. I mean, intelligent, educated, sophisticated people probably give you the willies. Edited December 7, 2020 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted December 7, 2020 Report Posted December 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Argus said: Understandable, given you're a guy who worships Trump. I mean, intelligent, educated, sophisticated people probably give you the willies. More to the point... public political discussion has been debased to the level of celebrity chatter. "I don't LIKE the royals" says the teenager as he sucks on a vape... and when he votes that will be the criteria he uses - eschewing any kind of analysis of economic, traditional, political or cultural costs/benefits. These are the adults of today (and I used a 'figurative' not a literal teenager in my example). And this is why I call myself a conservative. Conservative traditions and values allow for acknowledgment of trade-offs, sacrifice, and the value of our traditions. "I don't like Trudeau" "I don't like the Queen" "I don't like socialists" "I don't like racists" turns serious discussion into consumer choice, where every difficult decision becomes the Pepsi challenge. We can't take the vote away from these people, so we should insulate them into their own hives and seal them off. 2 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
-1=e^ipi Posted December 7, 2020 Report Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 7:35 PM, Moonlight Graham said: Why? Because the queen is unelected, just like Xi Jinping. I support democracy. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted December 7, 2020 Report Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 7:49 PM, Moonlight Graham said: Nobody would get a passport or a vote without swearing true allegiance to Canada and denouncing all foreign loyalties and allegiances each and every time. Meanwhile, the military swears allegiance to a foreign Queen and her successors instead of to Canada or to Canadians... Quote
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