Infidel Dog Posted November 28, 2020 Report Posted November 28, 2020 And the following month there was this from the Supreme Court justice who oversees the area: Justice Alito orders Pennsylvania officials to set aside late-arriving ballots 1 1 Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 28, 2020 Report Posted November 28, 2020 I'm not sure if I understand this correctly but the Libertarians at Reason seem to think that the certification means Alito stands between "the pending application from Pennsylvania" and the Supreme court. They seem to think this means Alito will deny whatever that is and the case never makes it to the Supreme court. It's this guy's opinion: JOSH BLACKMAN is a constitutional law professor at the South Texas College of Law Houston, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, and the President of the Harlan Institute. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/11/24/now-that-pennsylvania-has-certified-its-election-results-we-may-never-know-whether-justice-barrett-would-have-recused-from-the-election-litigation/#comments Quote
Argus Posted November 29, 2020 Report Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) The PA Supreme Court rescinds the order from a PA lower court to halt certification of PA’s election results. I think some conservatives were excited by the earlier news of the lower court’s ruling, but this is over now. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has dismissed a lawsuit brought about by Congressman Mike Kelly, and other allies of Donald Trump, attempting to invalidate the state’s mail-in ballots from the 2020 election. Justice David Wecht wrote: “It is not our role to lend legitimacy to such transparent and untimely efforts to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters. Courts should not decide elections when the will of the voters is clear.” The court dismissed the case “with prejudice” meaning that it cannot be refiled. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/pennsylvania-trump-2020-election-ballots-supreme-court-b1763372.html?utm_source=reddit.com Edited November 29, 2020 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
OftenWrong Posted November 29, 2020 Report Posted November 29, 2020 Well I didn't really follow the legal cases in much detail, no time to worry about these things, but I get the gist of it. Like my pappy used to say, It it smells like a coup, it's as good as a coup. Quote
Boges Posted November 30, 2020 Report Posted November 30, 2020 Let's just evaluate the ruling for 3rd circuit that was released on Saturday. And how beautiful it is. Team Trump viewed being able to argue this case as a success. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-pennsylvania-elections-philadelphia-d9c96c4593ec278f3b1d4bc564068df6 Quote “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote for the three-judge panel, all appointed by Republican presidents. So this was their Hail Mary? Quote
Boges Posted November 30, 2020 Report Posted November 30, 2020 Sorry, I guess Argus beat me to it. Still worth repeating. Quote
Boges Posted November 30, 2020 Report Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) On 11/28/2020 at 11:35 PM, OftenWrong said: Well I didn't really follow the legal cases in much detail, no time to worry about these things, but I get the gist of it. Like my pappy used to say, It it smells like a coup, it's as good as a coup. A coup by who? Who's rigging this for Biden? Every state that certifies Biden got more votes? And now it's the FBI and Justice Department AND!!! The Supreme Court packed with 3 Trump Judges? He's criticizing them now because they won't hear is flimsy pathetic case. A conspiracy this large would dwarf that of the one required to entertain the crazed theories of 911 Truthers. Edited November 30, 2020 by Boges Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 30, 2020 Report Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boges said: A coup by who? Who's rigging this for Biden? Every state that certifies Biden got more votes? See the problem with answering that question is two fold. 1. The answer can be lengthy if you haven't been paying attention to both sides of the argument. 2. Anybody asking it is already immediately noticeable as one those trained to ignore the obvious so he doesn't actually want to know the answer. But if you ever should be enjoying a genuinely curious moment, free of the corporate media mind-wipe try this one: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/illegitimate-election-plunges-republic-crisis-daniel-greenfield/ And if you'd like to know what I mean by ignoring the obvious try this one: https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/ Edited November 30, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
Cannucklehead Posted November 30, 2020 Report Posted November 30, 2020 https://nationalpost.com/news/world/biden-pads-wisconsin-victory-by-87-votes-in-recounts-that-cost-trump-3-million/wcm/8a7a5cb0-7d5b-4348-a4f9-7ca2fdde4723/amp/ No complaints here, trump can keep complaining and improve Bidens lead and waste his money as much as he wants imo. I'd rather see him use his money for something more productive; covid relief, homeless, etc... but I know that's not going to happen anytime soon. Quote
sharkman Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 5:03 AM, Charles Anthony said: Guys, Please do not cluster-fuddle the forum with cartoons. If you have nothing to contribute of your own words to accompany the post, then please avoid posting photo-play thumbnail links. The free-wheeling comedy club department is down a few levels. Feel free to have at it over there. Beaver, it seems we are not to clutter up this thread with cartoons. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 SharkMan is right. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Boges Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Cannucklehead said: https://nationalpost.com/news/world/biden-pads-wisconsin-victory-by-87-votes-in-recounts-that-cost-trump-3-million/wcm/8a7a5cb0-7d5b-4348-a4f9-7ca2fdde4723/amp/ No complaints here, trump can keep complaining and improve Bidens lead and waste his money as much as he wants imo. I'd rather see him use his money for something more productive; covid relief, homeless, etc... but I know that's not going to happen anytime soon. Where recounts have happened. They've affirmed the initial vote count. Even in Georgia, where Trump is now attacking Republican officials for not simply overturning the results. So who exactly is trying to rig the election? Quote
Boges Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 More Leftwing Propaganda from the. . . National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/ Quote There are legitimate issues to consider after the 2020 vote about the security of mail-in ballots and the process of counting votes (some jurisdictions, bizarrely, take weeks to complete their initial count), but make no mistake: The chief driver of the post-election contention of the past several weeks is the petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people. The Trump team (and much of the GOP) is working backwards, desperately trying to find something, anything to support the president’s aggrieved feelings, rather than objectively considering the evidence and reacting as warranted. Almost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. In particular, it’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories about Dominion voting systems. Over the weekend, he repeated the charge that 1.8 million mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania were mailed out, yet 2.6 million were ultimately tallied. In a rather elementary error, this compares the number of mail-ballots requested in the primary to the number of ballots counted in the general. A straight apples-to-apples comparison finds that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested in the primary and 1.5 million returned, while 3.1 million ballots were requested in the general and 2.6 million returned. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Boges said: More Leftwing Propaganda from the. . . National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/ on November 30th, 2020 the National Review called a sitting Republican president "petulant". Nothing to see here, no. Just a normal president doing a bang-up job with 1/2 the country inexplicably afflicted with TDS=Trump Derangement Syndrome. Unfortunately he's not good at viruses, so this one also persists... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shady said: Voting fraud 101 I know if I was going to fix an election in the United States, I'd make sure all of my fake votes were xerox copies of a single original. Quote
Boges Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 We all know William Barr is nothing but a RINO https://nationalpost.com/news/world/staunch-trump-ally-barr-says-doj-hasnt-uncovered-significant-voter-fraud Quote WASHINGTON — The U.S. Justice Department has not uncovered any evidence of widespread voter fraud in the presidential election, despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims, Attorney General William Barr told the Associated Press on Tuesday. “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” the news service quoted Barr as saying. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 The National Post has done a Drudge and flipped right to left these days so you have to do the read from the bottom up thing now to get the whole story: Quote “With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation,” Trump attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a joint statement. “Nonetheless, we will continue our pursuit of the truth.” Quote
Argus Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said: The National Post has done a Drudge and flipped right to left these days so you have to do the read from the bottom up thing now to get the whole story: It doesn't even occur to you, does it, that when Trump starts blaming uber loyal Republicans like Barr and Kemp he's just flailing around without any remaining sanity, does it? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Infidel Dog Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 I know Giuliani blasted Barr for not doing much of an investigation. I wasn't aware Trump did? Did he? Show me? Do you at least have a link showing Trump casting blame on Kemp. I could see that one. I ask not as a gotcha but if such things actually exist I'd like to see what The Donald actually said. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Come think of it think of it the only comment I've heard Trump make about the mess in Georgia over the last few days is the one where he told Georgians who voted for him that he knew they were pissed about being cheated out of their votes by the Georgian fraudsters but not to take it out on the two Republicans in the run-off votes for Senate. He told them to get out and vote when that one happens. And this is interesting apparently even 30% of Democrats know their party cheated: Edited December 1, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
Guest Posted December 1, 2020 Report Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Come think of it think of it the only comment I've heard Trump make about the mess in Georgia over the last few days is the one where he told Georgians who voted for him that he knew they were pissed about being cheated out of their votes by the Georgian fraudsters but not to take it out on the two Republicans in the run-off votes for Senate. He told them to get out and vote when that one happens. And this is interesting apparently even 30% of Democrats know their party cheated: Now ask them about Oswald! Quote
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