The Lawsuits

[BeaverFever]

On 11/26/2020 at 12:46 AM, BeaverFever said:

Your whole world is crumbling around you. The imaginary web of conspirators you’ve created for yourself gets bigger and bigger by the minute in order to explain the reality that’s crashing down on you and your failed loser of a false god. It’s so sweet. ?????

Update:

 

The imaginary web of conspirators has expanded to include Bill Barr

[Infidel Dog]

It's funny but the AP's telling of their interview with Barr seems to differ in the way it's put across than the way Reuters does it at the now leftist National Post. The AP doesn't seem to be saying there was no evidence.  In the AP one Barr claims only, "people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department."

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/william-barr-breaks-his-silence-weve-found-fraud-but-not-enough-to-change-any-state-outcome/

[BeaverFever]

7 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

It's funny but the AP's telling of their interview with Barr seems to differ in the way it's put across than the way Reuters does it at the now leftist National Post. The AP doesn't seem to be saying there was no evidence.  In the AP one Barr claims only, "people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department."

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/william-barr-breaks-his-silence-weve-found-fraud-but-not-enough-to-change-any-state-outcome/

You can’t read very well can you?

 

To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP.

 

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

How can it be spelled out any simpler for your tiny closed mind?

[Infidel Dog]

Einstein...can you honestly not see we're saying the same thing?

Barr isn't saying there was no fraud he's saying he doesn't see claims of systemic fraud of the sort the Department of Justice should be investigating.

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“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations and. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

And then...

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Trump's lawyers were quick to respond to Barr's statement with the following: “With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation. We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined.”

So both sides seem to agree. Barr hasn't done much of an investigation. Barr claims they haven't seen much of a need to so far.

Nothing you or I have posted contradicts the other, my dimwitted friend.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Einstein...can you honestly not see we're saying the same thing?

Barr isn't saying there was no fraud he's saying he doesn't see claims of systemic fraud of the sort the Department of Justice should be investigating.

And then...

So both sides seem to agree. Barr hasn't done much of an investigation. Barr claims they haven't seen much of a need to so far.

Nothing you or I have posted contradicts the other, my dimwitted friend.

Boy you are slow.

 

Let’s recap:  you’re convinced there’s systemic fraud that altered the results of the election. Barr, a Trump stooge, officially opened a witch hun....sorry “investigation” to find such fraud and found nothing noteworthy.   Why would he not be doing his job to protect and serve his master?

The Trump campaign STILL has produced  ZERO evidence and been laughed out of court tIme and again  but you’re convinced that the secret evidence is out there. 

The stories you Trumpsters invent for yourselves to demy a clearly obvious reality are truly amusing. 

[Infidel Dog]

Convinced? I would say 'recognize.' I recognize the systemic fraud in the 2020 presidential election as stage 3 of the corporate elites' attempted coup using the progressive socialists as their stooges.

Barr is not convinced the fraud he has seen produced so far is the sort of systemic fraud that the DOJ should investigate. Both Barr and the Trump campaign seem in agreement. It isn't that the DOJ did an investigation and saw no evidence of fraud. There was no investigation. I don't see where Barr is saying there was and the the Trump campaign is saying there wasn't.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-campaign-hits-attorney-general-over-claim-of-no-fraud-evidence_3600832.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-01-4

Barr did say there was going to be an investigation in the past but feel free to show me evidence that it ever happened.

Why so desperate to pretend there's something more here than what Barr is telling you?

 

Edited December 2, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Boges]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Convinced? I would say 'recognize.' I recognize the systemic fraud in the 2020 presidential election as stage 3 of the corporate elites' attempted coup using the progressive socialists as their stooges.

Barr is not convinced the fraud he has seen produced so far is the sort of systemic fraud that the DOJ should investigate. Both Barr and the Trump campaign seem in agreement. It isn't that the DOJ did an investigation and saw no evidence of fraud. There was no investigation. I don't see where Barr is saying there was and the the Trump campaign is saying there wasn't.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-campaign-hits-attorney-general-over-claim-of-no-fraud-evidence_3600832.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-01-4

Barr did say there was going to be an investigation in the past but feel free to show me evidence that it ever happened.

Why so desperate to pretend there's something more here than what Barr is telling you?

Barr is just parroting what courts of law have said. 

If there was compelling evidence of widespread fraud and not just isolated anecdotes they would have been presented in the several dozen court cases that Trump and his gaggle has lost. 

Trump's fight is political not legal. He's hoping to pressure Republican Legislators will send Faithless Electors to the EC. That's his last Hail Mary shot. 

It's come out that the Trump Campaign has raised $170 million since Election. That's the real reason for all this. 

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Convinced? I would say 'recognize.' I recognize the systemic fraud in the 2020 presidential election as stage 3 of the corporate elites' attempted coup using the progressive socialists as their stooges.

That hilarious. The Republican Party is the official party of corporate elites. And the whole idea that ultra-capitalist, anti-government, anti-environment,anti-regulation, anti-tax, anti-labour “corporate elites” want anti-capitalist, pro-government, pro-environment, pro-regulation, pro-tax, pro-labour “socialists” in charge makes no fucking sense whatsoever   
 

To borrow a phrase from one of the Republican judges who laughed one of Trump’s frivolous lawsuits out of court: your whole ideology and worldview is a “Frankenstein’s  monster” of conflicting and contradictory half-baked ideas and conspiracy theories desperately stitched together into one big incoherent mass of nonsense. 
 

Barr and the Trump campaign are clearly NOT in agreement and that is why right wing media today is now going after Barr. Barr said all complaints that were forwarded to him were followed up on and there is nothing more to investigate.
 

You are getting increasingly desperate by the day. Funny how Trump’s “winning” looks exactly like someone who is losing terribly and how his “overwhelming evidence” looks exactly like someone with zero evidence. Could it be because he actually is losing and has no evidence ?  Your denial of reality is amusing but also pathetic 

Edited December 2, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Boges]

It's also funny that the likes of Huga Chavez's corpse and Cuba would be down with all this corporatist stuff. 

Edited December 2, 2020 by Boges

[Argus]

Infidel Dog should be gone soon. I know he's frantically selling all his possessions to send his money to Donald Trump's fund to fight voter fraud pay off Trump's debt. Soon he won't be able to afford the internet.

At a time when most losing campaigns start winding down, Trump's campaign took the unusual step and increased its calls for donations, The Post and The Times reported. The campaign sent out hundreds of emails to donors in November, The Post reported.

The focus of the emails since Election Day has been on riling up supporters about Trump's unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud, giving supporters the impression that they're directly helping the campaign contest the election results in the courts with their donations.

"The average donor who gives in response to Trump's appeal for funds to 'stop the fraud' likely doesn't realize that their money is actually retiring Trump's debt or funding his leadership PAC," he added.

The Times also noted that the Trump campaign was automatically signing donors up for repeated weekly contributions. Donors have to uncheck a box to opt out of the plan, which some critics have called misleading, according to The Times.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-election-challenge-fundraised-150m-most-money-future-plans-2020-12

[OftenWrong]

Infidel Dog is a moron and traintor! Expel him! Expel!

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

It's also funny that the likes of Huga Chavez's corpse and Cuba would be down with all this corporatist agenda. 

What's also funny is the pile-on to those who dare and question the massive mail-in ballot which the system was not set up to handle.
But let's face it, there was no way Trump was going to be allowed to win, at all costs!

"Most fair election ever in history!"

[BeaverFever]

22 minutes ago, Argus said:

Infidel Dog should be gone soon. I know he's frantically selling all his possessions to send his money to Donald Trump's fund to fight voter fraud pay off Trump's debt. Soon he won't be able to afford the internet.

At a time when most losing campaigns start winding down, Trump's campaign took the unusual step and increased its calls for donations, The Post and The Times reported. The campaign sent out hundreds of emails to donors in November, The Post reported.

The focus of the emails since Election Day has been on riling up supporters about Trump's unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud, giving supporters the impression that they're directly helping the campaign contest the election results in the courts with their donations.

"The average donor who gives in response to Trump's appeal for funds to 'stop the fraud' likely doesn't realize that their money is actually retiring Trump's debt or funding his leadership PAC," he added.

The Times also noted that the Trump campaign was automatically signing donors up for repeated weekly contributions. Donors have to uncheck a box to opt out of the plan, which some critics have called misleading, according to The Times.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-election-challenge-fundraised-150m-most-money-future-plans-2020-12

And it seems they’re selling pardons to their criminal buddies too  

 

Thats in addition to the pre-emptive “blanket” pardons he’s lining up for himself, his family, Giuliani, and a host of other crooks  

 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

What's also funny is the pile-on to those who dare and question the massive mail-in ballot which the system was not set up to handle.
But let's face it, there was no way Trump was going to be allowed to win, at all costs!

"Most fair election ever in history!"

That was by design BTW. And Republicans were to blame. Laws were passed to force officials to count Mail-In Votes after In-Person voting.

They built in the impression of fraud into the system. 

Many states were able to handle it. See Florida and Ohio who counted the mail-in votes as they came in. 

 

[sharkman]

5 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

What's also funny is the pile-on to those who dare and question the massive mail-in ballot which the system was not set up to handle.
But let's face it, there was no way Trump was going to be allowed to win, at all costs!

"Most fair election ever in history!"

I tend to agree with this, when you take into consideration the systemic fraud built into the Dem voting organizations in Detroit, Pennsylvania, and the rest of the swing states that stopped counting the night of the election.  Mail in ballots with no creases(hadn't been mailed in envelopes), invalid addresses, massive numbers of dead people voting, no signatures.  Voter turn out numbers higher than 100% of registered voters.  Counting late ballots.  On and on it goes, and that's without the Dominion tampering.  BTW, Dominion quickly closed their offices in North America(Toronto and Colorado) and wiped the internet of some of their employees.  

What's notable about the Trump results is, he got 11 million more votes this time out than last time.  That's the third highest increase of an incumbent in American history.  And it's the dirtiest US election in history.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, sharkman said:

I tend to agree with this, when you take into consideration the systemic fraud built into the Dem voting organizations in Detroit, Pennsylvania, and the rest of the swing states that stopped counting the night of the election.  Mail in ballots with no creases(hadn't been mailed in envelopes), invalid addresses, massive numbers of dead people voting, no signatures.  Voter turn out numbers higher than 100% of registered voters.  Counting late ballots.  On and on it goes, and that's without the Dominion tampering.  BTW, Dominion quickly closed their offices in North America(Toronto and Colorado) and wiped the internet of some of their employees.  

All evidence that could have and should been presented in Court. 

[Infidel Dog]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That hilarious. The Republican Party is the official party of corporate elites.

I think you need to look again. That, like so many things, has flipped. If it was true it's not anymore.

When I say corporate I include money managers. The guy who ran the Smartmatic voting machines is a Soros officer. I include the corporate woke. The money behind the MSM, Entertainment and leisure. I'll make a prediction. Turn on the television. The next commercial you see where there's a featured white male he'll be a clown or a crook. Then there's the found money like Prince Charles or the families that inherited charities that used to be used for Charity but now are used to support leftist causes. It's not a coincidence that big corporates are getting rich during the lockdowns while the middle class disappears. Check out which election campaigns are getting financed by the richest donors. Didn't Biden out-finance the Trump campaign by 3 times or something like that? It wasn't small donors financing Basement Joe. There are even energy corporations backing the warmageddon hoax.

There are what I'll call progressive socialists behind the left. But they functioned during the campaign and the election itself as stooges creating pod-people, like yourself, taking liminal orders from the news media, entertainment and schools to back the plays from what I'll call the corporate globalists from above, creating a thug army to create pre-election chaos, running the voting polls and such like that. Cancel culturing anybody daring to speak up.

Here's another prediction. The corporates and the progressive socialists have been allies so far but watch what happens next. The Progs have been screwed over. The Corporates took control of the Biden party. The Progs can't like it. There's going to be conflict.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

All evidence that could have and should been presented in Court. 

And note that once inside the court the Republicans didn't even say there was fraud! They instead pointed to little irregularities in this or that county, the type of thing that happens during every election. But none of it amounted to a hill of beans, which is why every court has tossed them out with snide remarks about lack of evidence and 'stitched together' narratives.

But it doesn't seem to make any difference to the cultists. The Trump appointed FBI director says there was no fraud. The Trump loyalist AG says there was no evidence. The Trump supporting Republican governor and secretary of state of Georgia says there was nothing. But their great, fat, bloated moron god has spoken so the cultists continue to scream and rant.

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

But it doesn't seem to make any difference to the cultists. The Trump appointed FBI director says there was no fraud. The Trump loyalist AG says there was no evidence. The Trump supporting Republican governor and secretary of state of Georgia says there was nothing. But their great, fat, bloated moron god has spoken so the cultists continue to scream and rant.

It's like with 911 Trutherism or Flat Earthers. The more people that don't come to the same crazy conclusions, the more people that are in on it. 

Barr is clearly a deep statist 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

  On and on it goes, and that's without the Dominion tampering.  BTW, Dominion quickly closed their offices in North America(Toronto and Colorado) and wiped the internet of some of their employees. 

Gabriel Sterling, Georgia's Republican voting systems manager, pleads with Trump and other Republicans to show a little leadership and stop the dangerous nonsense about there being a rigged election.

He continued: "This is elections, this is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. It's too much. Yes, fight for every legal vote, go for your due process, we encourage it, use your First Amendment right. Death threats, physical threats, intimidation, it's too much. It's not right. They have lost the moral high ground to claim that it is."

Sterling described a young voting systems technician, a contractor with the state's vendor for election technology, Dominion Voting Systems, facing threats as "the straw that broke the camel's back."

"I talked to Dominion today, and they said he's one of the better ones they've got. His family's getting harassed. There's a noose out there with his name on it. It's just not right," Sterling said. "I've got police protection outside my house. I took a higher-profile job, I get it. The Secretary ran for office, he and his wife knew that too. This kid took a job. He just took a job. And it's wrong. I can't begin to explain the level of anger I have right now."

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gone-too-far-georgia-voting-224739659.html

Edited December 2, 2020 by Argus

[Infidel Dog]

Here's the evidence:

2,689 fraudulent addresses used in GA and PA

138,444 swing state votes were cast from voters with residence in another state

40,000 mail-in ballots were cast in the names of deceased voters in PA

40,875+ ballots were cast in the name of another voter without their consent

40 of CO's 64 counties have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

353 counties in 29 states have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

2,000 ballots found in single sweep, despite numerous prior sweeps

Mail-in ballots were "returned" for counting before they were mailed

And it goes on and on like that. More evidence and their sources can be found here:

https://hereistheevidence.com/

[Boges]

19 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Here's the evidence:

2,689 fraudulent addresses used in GA and PA

138,444 swing state votes were cast from voters with residence in another state

40,000 mail-in ballots were cast in the names of deceased voters in PA

40,875+ ballots were cast in the name of another voter without their consent

40 of CO's 64 counties have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

353 counties in 29 states have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

2,000 ballots found in single sweep, despite numerous prior sweeps

Mail-in ballots were "returned" for counting before they were mailed

And it goes on and on like that. More evidence and their sources can be found here:

https://hereistheevidence.com/

I trust this was all presented in court. 

[BeaverFever]

21 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Here's the evidence:

2,689 fraudulent addresses used in GA and PA

138,444 swing state votes were cast from voters with residence in another state

40,000 mail-in ballots were cast in the names of deceased voters in PA

40,875+ ballots were cast in the name of another voter without their consent

40 of CO's 64 counties have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

353 counties in 29 states have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots

2,000 ballots found in single sweep, despite numerous prior sweeps

Mail-in ballots were "returned" for counting before they were mailed

And it goes on and on like that. More evidence and their sources can be found here:

https://hereistheevidence.com/

Oh FFS if some anonymous stranger from god knows what country posted it on internet it must be true!

That’s not evidence, thats unproven and/or disproven claims posted on the internet.
 

PS  You missed the one about Biden having a lizard head and eating babies.  That’s “evidence” right?

Edited December 2, 2020 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

56 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I think you need to look again. That, like so many things, has flipped. If it was true it's not anymore.

Nope look at what they do, not what they say.  Trump had more multimillionaires and billionaires in his cabinet than any other administration in history, including some of the financial predators from the Great Recession like Mnuchin. 
 

When Trump killed that law preventing financial advisors from misleading clients for their own interests who was he helping?  Is that a problem conservatives were worried about , your financial advisor being too honest with  you?  When Trump killed limits on a toxic chemical in drinking water that causes brain damage in children, who was he helping?  Is that a problem conservatives have, not enough brain damaged babies?  I guess you gotta grow the future conservative base somehow eh?  When Trump basically legalized all pollution as part of the “pandemic relief plan” while Republicans barely handed out any pandemic relief finds to families did conservatives feel supported?

 

For the first time in American history, the 400 wealthiest people in the US paid a lower tax rate than any other group under Trump.  Is that a working class problem?

 

You conservatives still believe in the fallacy of trickle-down economics, are still anti-labour, anti- environment, anti-minimum wage, anti-regulation, etc..... nothing has changed except you wrap it all in this thin half-baked veneer of “something something globalism” to try and capture the working class vote and get them to vote against their own economic interests

[Infidel Dog]

48 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Oh FFS if some anonymous stranger from god knows what country posted it on internet it must be true!

That’s not evidence, thats unproven and/or disproven claims posted on the internet.
 

PS  You missed the one about Biden having a lizard head and eating babies.  That’s “evidence” right?

I always know when you're getting desperate Beave. It becomes all about the smears and slurs from you.

And I know why.

If you had actually clicked the link to see what you're talking about you'd know the sources for each of those evidence claims is given.