The Lawsuits

[Infidel Dog]

The problem is the blatant blocking of poll watchers and destruction of evidence makes it pretty much impossible to acquire hard or physical evidence. 

[Infidel Dog]

It was fraud in plain sight but the left's pet media and their compliant pod-people tell us 'Don't trust your lying eyes.' Show us the physical evidence we destroyed.

Edited November 27, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

I've seen this one around in different places:

'Historically strange' spike in incomplete Nevada voter files, casinos as ‘home’

At this point I don't care how many spelling errors Sydney Powell's people make or how many muck-ups Rudy makes of stats, I'm with these guys:

[dialamah]

33 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Here ya go...

This appears to be a copy of the actual court affidavit:

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/WebPage.pdf

The document under discussion, posted by Beaver, was filed in Georgia.  The one you've linked to was filed in Michigan.

Different courts and different plaintiffs.

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In any case, the complaint linked to in Beaver's post has been cleaned up -- https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf, 

So it looks like you were right in that it was a preliminary document, not yet filed.

[Infidel Dog]

My mistake. Yes Just the News appears to have just copied Defending the Republic's paste job for Michigan rather than Georgia. However, in double-checking that I noticed something interesting.

Check out Beave's original circling of spelling typos:

https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2020_11/image.thumb.jpeg.3c49aab1df0a0efeb60f34cd3f4bba70.jpeg

Ok, now check out what's up there now:

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

Defending the Republic appears to have corrected their typos.

Ever done that? I know I do it all the time. In fact I just did.

 

Edited November 27, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

Here's one for you to spell check from the link to the claim of fraud in Nevada above:

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In an affidavit filed in another Republican election challenge, a “data scientist” found a huge surge of incomplete voter registrations and those giving casinos and temporary RV parks as “their home or mailing addresses" in the Third Congressional District that covers the southern third of the state and much of Clark County.

The expert, Dorothy Morgan, said that in her initial study of the records of those who voted, there was an “historically strange” jump in voter registrations missing the sex and age of the voter, making confirmation by poll workers impossible.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/historically-strange-spike-in-incomplete-nevada-voter-files-casinos-as-home

[Infidel Dog]

If they can prove this is real it will be interesting. It says the Chi-Comms were producing and sending over fake ballots:

 

[BeaverFever]

52 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

destruction of evidence makes it pretty much impossible to acquire hard or physical evidence. 

... said Robert Mueller. 

[Infidel Dog]

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• ... said Robert Mueller. 

 

[BeaverFever]

57 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

It was fraud in plain sight but the left's pet media and their compliant pod-people tell us 'Don't trust your lying eyes.' Show us the physical evidence we destroyed.

What eyes?  You weren’t there you didn’t see anything. You’re just choosing who you want to believe.
 

By the way, the unsubstantiated claims that somebody was being blocked have been largely dismissed  and/or discredited AFAIK.

Besides claiming “I couldn’t see what was happening” doesn’t prove that something  bad happened:

 

”Your honour by drawing his blinds, I wasn’t able to properly observe from outside if Fiddle was in there molesting a chicken. Which proves he was molesting a chicken, and that conservatives are conducting widespread nation-wide chicken abuse!!!!”” I can’t wait to take that affidavit to court in Fiddle-land. 

[BeaverFever]

9 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

 

Just because you’re being a hypocrite doesn’t make it false equivalence   
 

But you’re right to a point though, they’re not exactly the same.... Mueller’s shortage of evidence was due to obstruction by Trump whereas Trumps lack of evidence is due to the accusations being a totally made up scam

Edited November 27, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

Election fraud claims are supported by a preponderance of evidence.

Here are the supportable claims in Sydney Powell's lawsuit:

More on the evidence for those here:

https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11/infographic-shocking-allegations-of.html

Mueller had a preponderance of nothing sparked out of nothing more than a phony document commissioned by Hilary Clinton that got some media attention by claiming falsely that Trump peed on some Russian Hookers.

[Infidel Dog]

Oh wait...

I forgot the second L in Hillary. Prog logic therefore demands the above must be ignored. Right Beave? Right Di?

[Infidel Dog]

If Mueller could have shown a preponderance of evidence alleging Trump colluded with Russia he would have and that would have been enough for the media to scream of Trump's guilt from the rooftops. But Mueller didn't do that. He didn't do it because he couldn't.

The Trump campaign can produce a preponderance of soft evidence easily but they have yet to produce a physical, smoking gun. To change the results of the election they'll need one.

That's why comparing the two is a false equivalency.

[BeaverFever]

26 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Election fraud claims are supported by a preponderance of evidence.

Here are the supportable claims in Sydney Powell's lawsuit:

More on the evidence for those here:

https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11/infographic-shocking-allegations-of.html

Mueller had a preponderance of nothing sparked out of nothing more than a phony document commissioned by Hilary Clinton that got some media attention by claiming falsely that Trump peed on some Russian Hookers.

Those are not evidence of fraud. Even if the allegations in that infographic are true (which they’re most probably not) none of those prove fraud occurred.  Proving that your front door doesn’t lock properly isn’t the same as proving that you’ve been burglarized.  And if you weren’t so blinded by your religious devotion you would understand that. 
 

The Trump campaign’s frequent meetings with Russian intelligence assets is what sparked the investigation and he only escaped justice by obstructing it and withholding/ destroying evidence, ordering witnesses not to testify, etc that’s just a fact you can suck on. 

Edited November 27, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

28 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Those are not evidence of fraud.

Well that's an opinion from a message board user. Here's a contrary opinion from a commenter at the blog that posted those infographics.

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As an attorney with more than 50 years of trial practice in California and another state, I respectfully submit that an impartial and reasoned review of the allegations made here eclipses the "preponderance of evidence" standard of proof. This is more than a mere "prima facie case"--this is COMPELLING

I won't retry the Mueller case with you. He had nothing. He admitted there was nothing and that's good enough for me.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Oh wait...

I forgot the second L in Hillary. Prog logic therefore demands the above must be ignored. Right Beave? Right Di?

Even without the poor spelling it should be ignored.

[BeaverFever]

22 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

He admitted there was nothing

That’s a lie. He said the exact opposite in fact he said “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so”

And then he gave 11 specific examples of how Trump committed obstruction of justice 

And finished with "Under long-standing department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office.”

Trump worshippers can keep deluding themselves that he was exonerated or that Mueller “found nothing”  or that the resulting indictments against 34 American and Russian citizens including 8 convicted Trump associates and 3 Russian businesses  don’t matter. But tou guys are only fooling yourselves bot the rest of the world 

Edited November 27, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

He wasn't investigating obstruction of justice. It would be like Giuliani admitting he had no case for election fraud or irregularities then saying however let's talk about Hunter Biden saying his dad takes kickbacks.

Unless you're saying Mueller couldn't do his job because he was being obstructed. If he has evidence of that let him produce it and show preponderance of evidence in spite of being denied hard evidence by obstruction as the Trump campaign is doing.

Because Giuliani has a better chance of producing evidence of for real obstruction if you still want to make comparisons.

 And what is this supposed to prove?

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“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so”

It sounds more like "Wah! I couldn't produce evidence of a crime but that doesn't mean that maybe somehow, some way there maybe, might have been one. Oh and Trump is a big, fat poopie head."

Really it's just Mueller admitting he had nothing.

Edited November 27, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

25 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Even without the poor spelling it should be ignored.

And yet you just couldn't, could you? 

[Infidel Dog]

Giuliani's team blew another one but...

Federal appeals court dismisses Trump campaign lawsuit over Pennsylvania voting procedures

A federal appeals court dismissed a lawsuit by the Trump campaign over Pennsylvania's voting procedures on Friday, paving the way for the issue to escalate all the way up to the Supreme Court.

 

Despite Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani arguing to a lower court that widespread voter fraud occurred in a state where President-elect Joe Biden won by over 80,000 votes, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said “the campaign’s claims have no merit.”

The Trump campaign has the option of asking the U.S. Supreme Court for emergency injunctive relief, which would go to Justice Samuel Alito, who would then likely ask his eight colleagues to weigh in. 

"The activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud. We are very thankful to have had the opportunity to present proof and the facts to the PA state legislature. On to SCOTUS!," Jenna Ellis, Trump's attorney and campaign adviser, said in a statement on Twitter after the court ruling. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-voting-procedures

[sharkman]

Finally.

[Guest]

Well, the SCOTUS has already ruled for God over science this week, so who can say they won't find for Trump as well.  The evidence doesn't matter.  What matters now are the tea leaves.

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by bcsapper

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

Well, the SCOTUS has aleady ruled for God over science this week, so who can say they won't find for Trump as well.  The evidence doesn't matter.  What matters now are the tea leaves.

 

 

Nope...the U.S. Constitution is the evidence that matters, and greatly influences Supreme Court rulings.   

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Nope...the U.S. Constitution is the evidence that matters, and greatly influences Supreme Court rulings.   

The SCOTUS interprets the US Constitution.  Whether they use science or tea leaves is up to them.