The Lawsuits

[BeaverFever]

12 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

That's the thing about some of these frauds. They're so brazen.

 

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Those people didn't have all kinds of time to fix an election. There were 8, 10 and 12 hour pauses in the vote tallying which seems like a lot to outsiders, but to people on the ground trying to run a scam it's not a lot of time, especially with election observers there. This was a brief window of opportunity, and it's an example of 'haste makes waste'. They just screwed up and didn't cover their tracks properly.

Translation:  my half-baked and implausible conspiracy theories make no sense but only because the people involved  in THE VAST WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY  are fuckin’ dumb and crazy!!  It’s not me it’s them!!!

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by BeaverFever

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Translation:  my half-baked and implausible conspiracy theories make no sense

 

They make sense because media is still giving Trump lots of attention and oxygen, the same way it has been from the very beginning.   It even works on some people in other countries.

 

[Infidel Dog]

5 hours ago, bcsapper said:

No, it was because Trump tried to downplay the need for, and the legitimacy of, mail in ballots during a pandemic.  His followers believed him, and voted accordingly.  His detractors didn't, and also voted accordingly. 

Coronavirus updates: CDC says people who test positive for the virus can still vote in person

And everything the President warned about concerning mail-out voting if unrequested ballots were sent out  came to pass.

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Translation:  my half-baked and implausible conspiracy theories make no sense 

Translation: "As usual, I don't have an actual argument so I'll just do my usual smear and slur thing and hope nobody notices."

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Translation: "As usual, I don't have an actual argument so I'll just do my usual smear and slur thing and hope nobody notices."

You clearly missed that the “actions argument” is that your conspiracy theories ate incoherent and half-baked and unbelievable. 
 

[Charles Anthony]

Guys, 

Please do not degrade the discussion forums into a cartoon strip. 

[Argus]

You know, I subscribe to some conservative groups, and every day there are a bunch of posts from people screaming fraud, and pointing to this or that evidence as 'proof'. And yet, whenever the Trump lawyers get into court they're careful to NOT allege fraud, even when directly asked by judges. And their cases have been thrown out repeatedly, often ridiculed by the judges themselves as 'Frankenstein' monsters' of stitched together allegations and no evidence.

And yet these posts keep coming, flourishing 'evidence' which somehow or other never makes it into court, or if it does proves to be evidence of nothing. Which leaves me wondering where they're all coming from. I'm pretty sure America's enemies want nothing better than for them to be at each other's throats, and would delight in producing this junk and dumping it onto the internet. To be seized upon and forward around by Trump supporters as 'proof' their boy was cheated.

As for Trump, the narrative that he lost is just to assuage his ego. He's never been willing to admit he was wrong on anything. He's never taken responsibility for anything. Plus they're raising hundreds of millions of dollars off the suckers who believe this stuff, and who think they're funding the legal effort (they're not, the money is going into retiring Trump's debts). People need to wake up and smell the goddam coffee.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Coronavirus updates: CDC says people who test positive for the virus can still vote in person

And everything the President warned about concerning mail-out voting if unrequested ballots were sent out  came to pass.

No it didn't.  If it had done, the courts wouldn't keep drubbing him.

Trump is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.  He should have seen what would happen given his paranoia about mail in votes.   What actually would happen, not what his paranoia told him would happen.  He probably wouldn't have gone to bed on election night.

And as for your link, why would telling people on election day they can vote if they have the virus affect the mail in vote?  Wouldn't they have already been sent?

I did notice some attepted election fraud in the article though. 

An unidentified robocaller has placed an estimated 10 million calls in the past several weeks warning people to “stay safe and stay home.” The calls have spooked some Americans, who said they viewed it as an attempt to scare them away from the polls on Election Day.

The link is behind a paywall so I couldn't see the details, but given the Republicans are all manly types who think the virus is a hoax, it's not a stretch to imagine it coming from one of them.  Still, the FBI says it happens in all the elections so I'm not going to insist Biden got 90 million votes instead of 80 million.

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, bcsapper said:

They're not.  They're trying to argue that there was fraud in the last election.  Enough to warrant changing the result. 

Calm down Karen.

There will most likely not be enough to change the whole election, but either way it's still extremely important to get to the bottom of this when it was clearly such a huge scandal. 

You shouldn't be against the truth sapper, unless you're anti-democracy.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Calm down Karen.

There will most likely not be enough to change the whole election, but either way it's still extremely important to get to the bottom of this when it was clearly such a huge scandal. 

You shouldn't be against the truth sapper, unless you're anti-democracy.

Hahahahahaha  Karen!  That's hilarious!

I'm not the one foaming at the mouth claiming fraud when none is apparent except in the mind's eye of paranoid conspiracy theorists.  I'm not the one losing something like 40 - 1 in current court cases trying to show Trump is not the sore loser he is.

Today's Republican is the very epitome of "Karen"!  You should all get your hair done.

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by bcsapper

[Infidel Dog]

  

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

I'm not the one foaming at the mouth claiming fraud when none is apparent except in the mind's eye of paranoid conspiracy theorists.  I'm not the one losing something like 40 - 1 in current court cases trying to show Trump is not the sore loser he is.

 

Mayor Giuliani would like to reply to you Sapper. 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

  

 

Mayor Giuliani would like to reply to you Sapper. 

 

Silly old git.  Who's the one with the air horn every time he lies?

[Infidel Dog]

Remember that video from a Georgian hearing yesterday showing the Marxist vote counters waiting for everybody to leave after they claimed the polls were closed then went under their desks for the boxes of vote gifts for Biden like parents on Christmas eve?

Well that one won't go away. Not even the corporate media and the social media owners in silicone valley can hide it. 

Even phony Republicans like the Georgian Governor, Kemp and his secretary of state, Ratsinburger can't hide it. They're both spinning their wheels backtracking. Kemp is calling for a signature audit, and Ratsinburger, who was previously Democrat vote fixer Stacy Abrahams' best buddy is now like this:

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After Thursday’s bombshell security footage that showed vote counting observers being sent home, only for vote counters to pull black suitcases full of votes from underneath a table and begin processing them in the early hours in the morning, the Georgia Secretary of State’s office conceded that “ballots were counted unlawfully and in secret.”

https://nationalfile.com/georgia-secretary-of-state-partially-bends-the-knee-acknowledges-ballots-were-counted-unlawfully-and-in-secret/

They still won't call a special session of the legislature though so the pressure must continue.

Edited December 4, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 

my half-baked and implausible conspiracy theories make no sense

 

That's true beave. Your half-baked theories don't make sense. Thanks for admitting to that.

 

Are you honestly trying to tell me that you think what went on in that room was legitimate ballot-counting? Wait til the observers leave and then pull out the cases of ballots that were hiding under the desk.....?

IMO you didn't have much credibility here to start with, but even if you had a rock-solid reputation for telling the truth you'd be below water after that idiocy.

 

The only way that the video in question isn't a huge deal for Dem voter fraud is if it's a made-up video by the GOP. Either way, that video has the potential to be the single biggest voter fraud proven in the history of the USA. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Hahahahahaha  Karen!  That's hilarious!

I'm not the one foaming at the mouth claiming fraud when none is apparent except in the mind's eye of paranoid conspiracy theorists.  I'm not the one losing something like 40 - 1 in current court cases trying to show Trump is not the sore loser he is.

Today's Republican is the very epitome of "Karen"!  You should all get your hair done.

Karen is the stupid broad that was spent the last 4 years hyperventilating about Trump being a Russian Nazi and bemoaning all the damage that was done to the US by Far-Right Terrorists. (do you even have a single example of that?)

You're the epitome of a Karen, and now you and Beave are the ones on full denial here, claiming yet another conspiracy theory.

"VIDEO EVIDENCE, AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO SIGN AFFIDAVITS & APPEAR IN COURT ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!! ONLY ANONYMOUS SOURCES ARE TO BE TRUSTED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE CONTRADICTED BY ACTUAL WITNESSES WHO ARE WILLING TO GO ON RECORD!!!!! SCHIFF WILL RELEASE ABSOLUTE PROOF OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION THIS WEEKEND!!!!!! ALL DEMOCRAT WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED!!!!!" - Karen 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Karen is the stupid broad that was spent the last 4 years hyperventilating about Trump being a Russian Nazi and bemoaning all the damage that was done to the US by Far-Right Terrorists. (do you even have a single example of that?)

You're the epitome of a Karen, and now you and Beave are the ones on full denial here, claiming yet another conspiracy theory.

"VIDEO EVIDENCE, AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO SIGN AFFIDAVITS & APPEAR IN COURT ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!! ONLY ANONYMOUS SOURCES ARE TO BE TRUSTED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE CONTRADICTED BY ACTUAL WITNESSES WHO ARE WILLING TO GO ON RECORD!!!!! SCHIFF WILL RELEASE ABSOLUTE PROOF OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION THIS WEEKEND!!!!!! ALL DEMOCRAT WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED!!!!!" - Karen 

I'll tell you what.  When Trump takes office in January you can call me Karen, and I won't argue the point.  Until that happens, I'm afraid it's you guys through and through.

 

 

[BeaverFever]

28 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's true beave. Your half-baked theories don't make sense. Thanks for admitting to that.

 

Are you honestly trying to tell me that you think what went on in that room was legitimate ballot-counting? Wait til the observers leave and then pull out the cases of ballots that were hiding under the desk.....?

IMO you didn't have much credibility here to start with, but even if you had a rock-solid reputation for telling the truth you'd be below water after that idiocy.

 

The only way that the video in question isn't a huge deal for Dem voter fraud is if it's a made-up video by the GOP. Either way, that video has the potential to be the single biggest voter fraud proven in the history of the USA. 

For the ten thousandth time:

IF YOU’RE SO RIGHT HOW COME NOBODY BELIEVES YOU - NOT EVEN FELLOW REPUBLICANS??

Youue sode has already brought forward so much fake evidence:  supposedly fraudulent out-of stte addresses that are actually perfectly legal military addresses, video of supposedly late mail-in ballots being counted after the election that are actually perfectly legal ballots mailed before the election date. It just goes on and on.
 

Trump is just throwing as much shit as he can hoping something sticks. Or people will say “he made 10,000 accusations surely at least some of them prove something”.

Or you guys think if every false thing you say 99.99% bullshit and 0.01% truth, then after you say 10,000 false things then the math will add up to be 100% truth (remember - Trump “loves the poorly educated”)

And the Republican election official in Georgia have already debunked the video:

 

“If you look at the videotape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them,” Mr Sterling said.

 

Frances Watson, the chief investigator for Georgia’s secretary of state, told Lead Stories that Republican and Trump campaign observers were not told to leave, and that the ballots scanned in the surveillance video had already been counted, in contrast to Mr Giuliani and Ms Pick’s assertions.

“Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do,” she said. “And it was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working.”
 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/georgia-suitcase-video-ballots-trump-b1766363.html
 

Trumps tema just exploits your ignorance again and again bu taking things out of context.  You jave no idea that military members and college students vote in their home state so they show you a bunch of addresses and you’re fooled. You have no idea that many states are required to count late ballots that are mailed before election day so they show you that footage and you’re fooled. You have no idea how ballots are counted and then scanned into archives so they show you that selective clip and you’re fooled. 
 

The one common feature of Trump supporters that I see over and over again is that they’re easily fooled where other people would at least be a little skeptical. The other common trait is that many of these people have very low levels of education   If ever there was a case for finishing high school and completing post secondary is that it will minimize the chances of becoming a conspiracy-believing Trump supporter type. 

[Shady]

20 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I know if I was going to fix an election in the United States, I'd make sure all of my fake votes were hidden in suitcases under the table, so I could pull them out in full view of the security cameras.

Shit, I had no idea you were such an expert in committing election fraud.   Regardless, there's a reason why the phrase "vote early, vote often" is tied to Democrats.  It does back decades, involving their election from in past elections.  You'll have to forgive people for a lack of trust.  You'll have to forgive people for wondering why Republicans needed to get a court order to have their observers closer than 30 feet of ballot counting.  That was a direct violation of election law.  Breaking the law should have consequences. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Shady said:

Shit, I had no idea you were such an expert in committing election fraud.  

Yeah, I didn't put it in my profile.  I didn't want to brag...

[Shady]

This shit needs to stop if people are expected to trust the election process.

 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Shady said:

This shit needs to stop if people are expected to trust the election process.

 

"Here, the last season of Game of Thrones.  Don't say I didn't warn you!"

Edited December 4, 2020 by bcsapper

[Argus]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

"Here, the last season of Game of Thrones.  Don't say I didn't warn you!"

Yeah, it doesn't take much, does it? I remember one of the early ones they were screaming about was a video of a guy tossing away 'ballots'. Obviously he was a Democrat throwing away Republican ballots! Only it turned out he was only tossing away a form people often inserted into the envelope and sent back - which they didn't need to. The papers weren't the right size or shape to be ballots.

But every day it's something new. And every new thing is the smoking gun, the absolute proof, until it gets explained and then they move on to the next big thing.

[Infidel Dog]

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Here, the last season of Game of Thrones.  Don't say I didn't warn you!

I don't get it...

Do you mean because both the final season GoT and the Georgian election fraud both sucked?

Then yeah...I can see that.

[Shady]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

Yeah, it doesn't take much, does it? I remember one of the early ones they were screaming about was a video of a guy tossing away 'ballots'. Obviously he was a Democrat throwing away Republican ballots! Only it turned out he was only tossing away a form people often inserted into the envelope and sent back - which they didn't need to. The papers weren't the right size or shape to be ballots.

But every day it's something new. And every new thing is the smoking gun, the absolute proof, until it gets explained and then they move on to the next big thing.

And how do you explain Republicans having to get a court order to have their observers closer than 30 feet to observe ballot counting?  Did that happen or didn't?  If it did, why?  That's a huge violation of election law.  Are people just suppose to ignore it and shrug their shoulders?  Stop excusing bad behavior just because you don't like Trump.  It's juvenile.

[Argus]

By the way, that video is marked 'ww news'. Anyone ever heard of 'ww news' or know if it even exists? From all I can find it appears to be from the Wellington Water Watchers, which is a small group of activists protesting against Nestle in the Guelph area.