Doug Ford and Covid 19

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

I don't.  I've been keeping my eye on a lot of places all over the world.

The question is:  Why DON'T you?

So Manitoba was the only place - out of all the world - that even remotely supported your claims?  

[OftenWrong]

9 hours ago, Boges said:

Cite

I already cited that stuff a while ago Boges, do you not pay attention? Cite cite cite.

  

On 9/21/2021 at 10:07 PM, OftenWrong said:

Like said, go do your own researches. Far be it from me to do so for others. Take your time and read carefully.

For example, can google

https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccine+affects+menstrual+cycle

Fill yer boots, fella.  

 

 

 

Edited October 6, 2021 by OftenWrong

[Boges]

11 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I already cited that stuff a while ago Boges, do you not pay attention? Cite cite cite.

No, I don't chronicle every little thing you see. You're not that important. 

[Accountability Now]

21 hours ago, Boges said:

Study released today. 

https://www.cmaj.ca/sites/default/files/additional-assets/site/press/cmaj.211248.pdf

 

Do you know if the full study is released or is this it? The reason I ask is because they come to the conclusion that Delta is deadlier than the other strains even though it has the lowest death by percentage. So if their raw numbers are showing this it must mean they are making some lofty modifications and alterations however we don't see those. 

21 hours ago, Boges said:

Scientific evidence that newer variants are much more dangerous to younger, healthier people. 

How much more dangerous? How much younger? How much healthier? Again, this is why I would like to see the full study as the numbers they show in this link only show a small increase in younger people being infected with Delta, nothing about increased hospitalization or death other than them claiming it to be so. 

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

No, I don't chronicle every little thing you see. You're not that important. 

Ok. I just thought you were willfully ignorant and not reading cites.

Trust you are now duly informed.

[Boges]

11 minutes ago, Accountability Now said:

 How much more dangerous? How much younger? How much healthier? Again, this is why I would like to see the full study as the numbers they show in this link only show a small increase in younger people being infected with Delta, nothing about increased hospitalization or death other than them claiming it to be so. 

Do you have stats to refute the claim? 

Do you have studies that break down ages factors into more detail than shown on Page 5 of the study? 

 

[Accountability Now]

50 minutes ago, Boges said:

Do you have stats to refute the claim? 

Do you have studies that break down ages factors into more detail than shown on Page 5 of the study? 

 

LMFAO! Page 5 shows the number of infections across the age demographic. It shows nothing about the hospitalization or death over that demographic. 

This is why I asked if you had a link to the full study....to see why they are making that link. 

By the way....thanks for glossing over the fact your study shows a lower percentage of death from Delta. 

[Boges]

44 minutes ago, Accountability Now said:

LMFAO! Page 5 shows the number of infections across the age demographic. It shows nothing about the hospitalization or death over that demographic. 

This is why I asked if you had a link to the full study....to see why they are making that link. 

By the way....thanks for glossing over the fact your study shows a lower percentage of death from Delta. 

There's a chart showing how they factored for age, sex co-morbidities etc. 

The lower percentage of death can be attributed to the higher vaccination rate. 

[Accountability Now]

18 minutes ago, Boges said:

There's a chart showing how they factored for age, sex co-morbidities etc. 

The lower percentage of death can be attributed to the higher vaccination rate. 

The chart shows their results, not how they did it. Again, if you have a link to the full study then great. If not, no big deal. 

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, Accountability Now said:

The chart shows their results, not how they did it. Again, if you have a link to the full study then great. If not, no big deal. 

You'd have to Google just as I would. 

This report was all over the MSM yesterday. 

[Infidel Dog]

Seems like they're hypothesizing the vaccine will make a larger wave of infections from the Delta variant of Covid less deadly.

How will they know it's the vaccine doing that even if July, August and September show it to be true?

How will they know it's not just a case of Delta being more virulent but less deadly than the original Covid?

I remember hearing that was the case long before Delta hit Ontario.

[Boges]

11 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Seems like they're hypothesizing the vaccine will make a larger wave of infections from the Delta variant of Covid less deadly.

How will they know it's the vaccine doing that even if July, August and September show it to be true?

How will they know it's not just a case of Delta being more virulent but less deadly than the original Covid?

I remember hearing that was the case long before Delta hit Ontario.

Because the study has a body of 200,000, or so, cases showing it to be more deadly (especially amongst younger and healthier) than the original strain. 

https://globalnews.ca/news/8244271/delta-variant-covid-19-strain-canadian-study/

Quote

They found that those infected with the Alpha variant, which drove the province’s third wave in the early spring, or the Beta or Gamma variants were 52 per cent more likely to be hospitalized, 89 per cent more likely to need intensive care and 51 per cent more likely to die of the infection than those who caught the early 2020 version of the virus.

This speaks to the idea that using data from the beginning of the pandemic is misleading as the victims were overwhelmingly older. Since the 2nd and 3rd waves, those numbers have tilted. 

It certainly can be partially attributed to the increased vaccination amongst older people. But that only bolsters the idea that vaccines work. 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Boges

[Boges]

13 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I remember hearing that was the case long before Delta hit Ontario.

This study mostly focuses on Alpha. The UK variant that fuelled the 3rd wave in Ontario. 

Delta has not made the impact (in both cases and hospitalization) as it has elsewhere. Likely because of continued Health measures and high levels of vaccination. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

Close the damn schools.

Ever since schools were wrongfully reopened last August there was a surge in the number of new Covid cases in Ontario as children under 12 were not vaccinated and sent to schools so that parents can go to work!!!!!! and we all know children are not mature enough to protect themselves well enough.

This is one example of many more cases when an entire family became sick with Covid

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/school-precautions-parents-false-security-covid-1.6200394

 

[Infidel Dog]

20 minutes ago, Boges said:

This study mostly focuses on Alpha. The UK variant that fuelled the 3rd wave in Ontario. 

In that case it seems strange that your media wants to hypothesize what will happen with Delta based on results from a study on Alpha.

Quote

“Delta” the B.1.617.2 VOC (first detected in India): 18,941 variant cases, which is up by 44 since the previous day. This strain is dominating Ontario’s fourth wave.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/ontario-reports-fewer-than-500-new-covid-19-cases-for-2nd-straight-day/ar-AAPcFs1

I've heard multiple reports that Delta is simply more virulent but less dangerous. 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

The study your puffing yourself up about ended in June, Right?

[Boges]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

The study your puffing yourself up about ended in June, Right?

Are you surmising that Alpha was more deadly but Delta isn't? 

The study states the main limitation is that the study ended before Delta got a foothold. But it really hasn't in Ontario, cuz vaccination. Mild cases aren't even up. 

The conclusion of the study is that these variants are more deadly. 

[Accountability Now]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

This study mostly focuses on Alpha.

But even in that scenario, the raw value percentage of death for Alpha was the same as the Original (0.9%). 

[Goddess]

Take a moment (an hour, actually) from your click-bait panic porn to watch some real science. Facts and data from the CDC's own website and the FDA.  And then tell me again, why we're listening to politicians and not scientists.

Winning the War Against Therapeutic Nihilism & Trusted Treatments vs Untested Novel Therapies (rumble.com)

[Boges]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Take a moment (an hour, actually) from your click-bait panic porn to watch some real science. Facts and data from the CDC's own website and the FDA.  And then tell me again, why we're listening to politicians and not scientists.

Winning the War Against Therapeutic Nihilism & Trusted Treatments vs Untested Novel Therapies (rumble.com)

Again you're talking about VAERS. No proof those deaths were caused by the vaccine. 

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Again you're talking about VAERS. No proof those deaths were caused by the vaccine. 

You didn't even watch it.  That's covered in the presentation.  STFU

Edited October 8, 2021 by Goddess

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

You didn't even watch it.  STFU

You're talking about the CDC right? 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

Edited October 8, 2021 by Boges

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

You're talking about the CDC right? 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

Get lost, Mr. "Cite! Cite! Cite!" and then refuses to even to look at the cites he demands of others.

I'm done with your panic porn.

Time to listen to science.  This is from the 78th Annual Meeting of American Physicians and Surgeons on Oct. 2, that's less than a week ago.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Get lost, Mr. "Cite! Cite! Cite!" and then refuses to even to look at the cites he demands of others.

I'm done with your panic porn.

Time to listen to science.  This is from the 78th Annual Meeting of American Physicians and Surgeons on Oct. 2, that's less than a week ago.

You're cite involves a one hour video? 

Tell me if I'm wrong. This guy is saying that the deaths reported from the CDC VAERSE is too big a risk to have the vaccine on the market. 

I did watch a bit of it. 

[Goddess]

Just now, Boges said:

I did watch a bit of it. 

Great..  Now you can go back to getting your science from Global News.