capricorn Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 46 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: Our economies should adapt. There are already more jobs in clean energy than fossil fuel energy industries. Not only that, but the effect that fossil fuel will have on the environment will cost a lot of money in the future. So if you don't give a shit about how dirty and ugly our world will look with a polluting system, then at least look at the economic advantage of weening ourselves away from fossil fuel. Thank you for your post. In regard to the development of clean energy industries, I agree there is a glimmer of hope. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 Actually, there has been and will be continued development in both fossil fuels and renewables. Many of the leading capital investments for renewables have come from fossil fuel corporations. Texas is the U.S. leader in wind energy development, alongside oil and gas for many years. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cum Laude Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 3:06 PM, capricorn said: Thank you for your post. In regard to the development of clean energy industries, I agree there is a glimmer of hope. Irma could cause epic destruction, with Jose on deck. Humanity is going to first go broke, then starve. Quote
Cum Laude Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 5:23 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Actually, there has been and will be continued development in both fossil fuels and renewables. Many of the leading capital investments for renewables have come from fossil fuel corporations. Texas is the U.S. leader in wind energy development, alongside oil and gas for many years. Interesting side effect from this natural disaster – we are seeing, slightly, a return to the old ways, in that people called “reporters” are going to the Houston area and telling us about what we can see happening. Of course, they are still devoting plenty of time in critiquing Donald Trump’s every word and perceived thought. That isn’t really reporting the news, because the news is a major city has been hit by a hurricane. Notice when we see actual reporting, we see a very different picture of what America and Americans are like. We are pretty good people. I did happen to switch over to CBS last night, and they were taking time too do a rundown of various minor local stories, carefully curated to portray America as a racist cruel uncaring country. That’s not what I see in Houston. Now why would the MSM, and their minions in the Democratic Party, want to divide the races like that? 1 Quote
GostHacked Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) On 8/31/2017 at 3:39 PM, Michael Hardner said: Yes, because this is the job of the Commander-in-Chief. Pissing off Canadians, while Texans drown and are poisoned by exploding chemical plants. Of course as your post shows, you are pleased. At the same time over 1200 people have died in India, due to flooding. Poor Texas. They experience this much more often and with much more devastation. Edited September 2, 2017 by GostHacked Quote
dialamah Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, GostHacked said: At the same time over 1200 people have died in India, due to flooding. Poor Texas. They experience this much more often and with much more devastation. It's always different when it happens to oneself, isn't it? Western powers have killed 100s of thousands or possibly millions of Middle Eastern people over the years, but they kill a few thousands of us and we lose our sh*t. We could all do so much better - us and them - but will we ever? Quote
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, dialamah said: It's always different when it happens to oneself, isn't it? Western powers have killed 100s of thousands or possibly millions of Middle Eastern people over the years, but they kill a few thousands of us and we lose our sh*t. We could all do so much better - us and them - but will we ever? Start with your family and work on out. There's nothing inhuman about caring more for those you relate to more. Quote
Altai Posted September 2, 2017 Report Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) MI6 does not miss any chance to use, as they blows up Arkema Chemical Plant cospiracy ? Edited September 2, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 Now California is burning. What do you think about it ? I dont have any information about it, so I wont blame anyone but you should consider any possiblities. This is how intelligences works. So they acts suitabile for the natural flow of life and may lit some dry branches with match in foresty area Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
hot enough Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 10:17 AM, dialamah said: It's always different when it happens to oneself, isn't it? Western powers have killed 100s of thousands or possibly millions of Middle Eastern people over the years, but they kill a few thousands of us and we lose our sh*t. You shouldn't spread false rumors and you should try to get your facts right when you speak of the deaths of so many people. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 9:17 AM, dialamah said: It's always different when it happens to oneself, isn't it? Western powers have killed 100s of thousands or possibly millions of Middle Eastern people over the years, but they kill a few thousands of us and we lose our sh*t. We could all do so much better - us and them - but will we ever? The Hindu Kush is an odd name for a mountain range. Any idea how it got that name? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 9:32 AM, bcsapper said: Start with your family and work on out. There's nothing inhuman about caring more for those you relate to more. What seems inhumane sometimes is the arbitrariness about where and when people stop 'working on out'. As the adage goes everyone is less than a handful of people removed from any other human being in the entire universe. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
hot enough Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) On 9/2/2017 at 10:32 AM, bcsapper said: Start with your family and work on out. There's nothing inhuman about caring more for those you relate to more. It's actually sickening how the media goes on and on about simple weather events affecting the USA. It is all just the rankest of propaganda. When it is measured against the inhumanity about providing cover for/for blindly supporting mass murderers, for those that plan and carry out genocides, for those who launch illegal wars all based on the most transparent of lies, it is evil incarnate. Edited September 4, 2017 by hot enough Quote
hot enough Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 1:08 PM, Hudson Jones said: There are already more jobs in clean energy than fossil fuel energy industries. I would have have called "bullshit" had there not been a link covering the text. How come we don't know this, US and Canadian news media? Quote
hot enough Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 8:03 AM, Hal 9000 said: CNN/MSNBC's version of the story: "Look at Melania's shoes, she's so out of touch"...."Look at Trump's hat, he's obviously just here to sell his brand". Hal, you aren't trying to suggest that this didn't occur when Obama was in office, are you? Quote
taxme Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 2:17 PM, WestCoastRunner said: Some points to consider in this disaster: Isn't it ironic that this disaster has occurred after Trump has withdrawn from the Paris Climate Accord. So sad! Will he change his tune? It's so very hard for me to see any empathy expressed by Trump on this disaster, even after his tour of the area. I wonder how many bodies have yet to be discovered in those waters? Should there have been more mandatory evacuations in parts of Houston? Granted, the logistics for mandatory evacution of 2.5 million would be extremely difficult if not impossible, but should more counties have been evacuated? 1. Trump has been president for about nine months now. So just how could Trump withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord be responsible for the hurricane that fast? And what about all the hurricanes that have happened since time began? Is that all Trumps fault also even though he was not even born yet? Liberals are such dummies.They always ask too many dumb questions. I hope that Trump sticks to his tune and keeps trying to pizz off the liberals. It gives something for liberals to whine and cry about like a bunch of crybaby snowflakes that they are Oh look, see that meteor? It proves that Trump is assisting in helping the sky to fall down. Tell that to a liberal enough times and they will start to believe that Trump is responsible for all the worse weather events happening in the world. 2. And if Trump did not show up all the liberals and democrats and the fake and phony lying liberal media would be whining and crying that Trump does not care about Houston because he did not show up and he instead preferred to play golf that day. One cannot win with liberals. They truly are an exercise in futility. And just to add. Where were all those Antifa thugs after this disaster hit Houston? No doubt trying to cause more violence and riots rather than going down to Houston and helping out those people who have just about lost everything thanks to the hurricane. Communist thugs is all they are. At least conservative Trump showed up. Where was Obama or the Clinton's? Probably out given a useless speech somewhere talking about how President Trump has been so bad for America and Americans. America and the world has been given a gift by Trump becoming president but yet most prefer to fight to keep the swamp going rather than help Trump drain the swamp. The people are truly their own worse enemy. The Houston hurricane brought out many good people who went their to help others in need while many showed up to do some looting. I understand that the Proud Boys went there to stop any looting. True American patriots. No doubt there will be some more bodies found. Total mandatory evacuations will not work. Some people will want to stay at home and try to save what they can from getting destroyed by the hurricane. Personally, I have always wanted to experience a hurricane first hand just to find out as to how bad a hurricane can really be. A crazy and a foolish idea but I have been known to do a lot of foolish and crazy things just for fun in my past youthful days. Quote
taxme Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 5:38 AM, Cum Laude said: Interesting side effect from this natural disaster – we are seeing, slightly, a return to the old ways, in that people called “reporters” are going to the Houston area and telling us about what we can see happening. Of course, they are still devoting plenty of time in critiquing Donald Trump’s every word and perceived thought. That isn’t really reporting the news, because the news is a major city has been hit by a hurricane. Notice when we see actual reporting, we see a very different picture of what America and Americans are like. We are pretty good people. I did happen to switch over to CBS last night, and they were taking time too do a rundown of various minor local stories, carefully curated to portray America as a racist cruel uncaring country. That’s not what I see in Houston. Now why would the MSM, and their minions in the Democratic Party, want to divide the races like that? Because the dumbocrats are a-holes. Plain and simple. Divide and conquer has always been the dumbocrats purpose in politics, and they are still trying to this day. They cannot handle the fact that they lost the election to someone who wants to make America great again. Personally, I think that the undemocratic party should be abolished for peace sake. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 The media likes to point out how race and religion play a role in current events, but did anyone else notice (not the MSM) that most of those rescuers could be described as god and gun lovin', Trump supporting rednecks who used their duck hunting boats and jacked up trucks to save African Americans? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
hot enough Posted September 5, 2017 Report Posted September 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: The media likes to point out how race and religion play a role in current events, but did anyone else notice (not the MSM) that most of those rescuers could be described as god and gun lovin', Trump supporting rednecks who used their duck hunting boats and jacked up trucks to save African Americans? The test isn't when disaster strikes, it's all the time. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: The media likes to point out how race and religion play a role in current events, but did anyone else notice (not the MSM) that most of those rescuers could be described as god and gun lovin', Trump supporting rednecks who used their duck hunting boats and jacked up trucks to save African Americans? This hasn't gone unnoticed....hard to rescue a flooded family with a tree hugging electric car. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 5:41 AM, Boges said: As for the Climate Change thing. The US hasn't had a major hurricane in years. I thought Climate Change was going to make these common. The Caribbean actually has a problem with seaweed because there are fewer hurricanes breaking up the islands of them in open water. Are you still in denial? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Boges Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 5 hours ago, marcus said: Are you still in denial? Why, because of Irma? I'm just saying that these Hurricanes are no more evidence of Climate change than the cool summer in Southern Ontario is evidence against it. Quote
dialamah Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Boges said: Why, because of Irma? I'm just saying that these Hurricanes are no more evidence of Climate change than the cool summer in Southern Ontario is evidence against it. More extreme weather events due to climate change have been forecast for at least 10 years that I know of. It's like smoking: no individual lung cancer is necessarily attributable to smoking, but that doesn't negate the fact that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. Quote
Boges Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, dialamah said: More extreme weather events due to climate change have been forecast for at least 10 years that I know of. It's like smoking: no individual lung cancer is necessarily attributable to smoking, but that doesn't negate the fact that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. I know, but that was predicted back when Katrina happened. There hadn't been a major Hurricane hit the US for like 12 years. I'm not saying Climate change doesn't exist, but using major Hurricanes as evidence is as dumb as when people claim Climate Change is bunk when it's really cold. Harvey was a bad weather event less because it was a strong Hurricane than because a set of high pressure systems kept it right over the Houston area for like 4 days. Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 0:17 PM, dialamah said: It's always different when it happens to oneself, isn't it? Western powers have killed 100s of thousands or possibly millions of Middle Eastern people over the years, but they kill a few thousands of us and we lose our sh*t. We could all do so much better - us and them - but will we ever? I wont even get into who killed who .. India and other nations in that area are prone to devastating weather events way more than North America. Quote
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