Trump and Canada

[taxme]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed....a temperamental, foul mouthed, breast smashing, drug abusing, campaign lying misogynist leading Canada is not important to all the world.

 

Canada, the joke of the world, and even more, now that JT is the dictator of la-la-land. Canada needs a leader like Trump, not a wuss who calls himself a feminist, and is a pro-third wold refugee believer, a social worker multiculturalist. Canada needs a business leader like Kevin O'Leary as PM. O'Leary may have a bit of a big ego at times but he does not hold back any punches. That is what I like about him, and I do hope that he becomes the PC leader. 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

Trudeau poses for selfies with naked women in parades to exploit them for political purposes, then calls himself a "feminist".

 

[taxme]

18 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Mexicans are now being exported to the north, under Donald Trump. And you know when they send them here, they're not sending their best...

Canada does not want the best and brightest anymore. Canada wants second best. Canada only believes in multiculturalism and third world immigration agendas and programs which could possibly turn Canada into a tail spin, and eventual turf wars one day. Hey, you never know. . 

[taxme]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trudeau poses for selfies with naked women in parades to exploit them for political purposes, then calls himself a "feminist".

 

And no doubt trudeau poses for selfies in those perverted homosexual parades also. He should be wearing one of those puzzy pink hats more often to really show us all how feminim he really is. He would really look oh so cute wearing one of those hats standing up in Parliament. Trump is more of a man than trudeau can ever hope for. 

[Omni]

14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Sorry, which pussy grabber are you talking about

I think he's referring to the POTUS. Heard of him?

[Omni]

12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trudeau poses for selfies with naked women in parades to exploit them for political purposes, then calls himself a "feminist".

 

I think I detect a note of jealousy.

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, Omni said:

I think he's referring to the POTUS.

I would never presume. There`s a lot of that going on in the real world. Even at Universities... imagine that.

Hint: That`s how you were born, son

[Topaz]

On 2017-02-05 at 0:29 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Irrelevant to this Trump and Canada thread.   Canada admitted entry to and provided welfare for a refugee who conspired to commit terrorist acts against the United States.

Canada's liberal refugee and immigrant policies are a threat to the United States. 

Well they from come from Mexico INTO the US to get to Canada IF the wall doesn't work, maybe a law saying they have to be financial supported  before entering and Trudeau should have thought twice but it still leaves the problem of them coming from your southern border....maybe a electric fence, with warning signs??

[bush_cheney2004]

The border crossing panic is on in Canada....I love the dichotomy:

"Trump sucks!....USA sucks!...but I still want to go to the USA whenever I want."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/border-rights-canada-privacy-1.4013139

[taxme]

On 3/6/2017 at 6:12 AM, Topaz said:

Well they from come from Mexico INTO the US to get to Canada IF the wall doesn't work, maybe a law saying they have to be financial supported  before entering and Trudeau should have thought twice but it still leaves the problem of them coming from your southern border....maybe a electric fence, with warning signs??

Ya, that should work putting up warning signs all across Canada. Expensive though. Signs should say STOP you cannot enter Canada illegally. Problem solved, right?  I am pretty sure that should stop all those illegal refugee criminals wanting to enter Canada. I feel so much safer now.  

[taxme]

On 3/7/2017 at 2:23 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

The border crossing panic is on in Canada....I love the dichotomy:

"Trump sucks!....USA sucks!...but I still want to go to the USA whenever I want."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/border-rights-canada-privacy-1.4013139

Indeed. I wonder how many of these Canadian anti-Trump, anti-American intolerant liberal bigots go down to the USA to shop or vacation? They just love mocking everything America but find it very hard to mock their own country, and the problems it has, and is starting to have. Many Canadians just love butting into other countries affairs, especially American affairs. What more can be said. 

[taxme]

On 2/13/2017 at 5:00 PM, Goh Shenas said:

We should forget about vetting system. I say let's kick them all out. They will infest our culture and values.

They already have infected Canadian culture and values.  

[taxme]

On 2/13/2017 at 4:57 PM, betsy said:

That's why I'm convinced that this was done as part of methods to appease Trump regarding security borders.  Trudeau has also stated that they will improve our immigration system.

 

When you have reckless Liberals who want open borders - the Trump factor is good for Canada.  Thank God Trump is the US President.

 

On 2/13/2017 at 5:15 PM, Goh Shenas said:

You are too soft! That's what liberals say..

Regardless of their citizenship their values are not the same as ours. They don't look the same. They should be rounded up and packed to where they came from.

Indeed, Trump will be good for Canada. Although BC becoming the 51st State of the union is starting to sound good too me. Sad, but true. BC being a part of Canada is starting to become a Province of illegal refugee criminals, and Canada one day may have to start rounding them up, and kicking them out. But that will probably have to wait until we can get a Trump PM for Canada one day. Fingers crossed. 

 

[Canadianjim]

Trump was informed that Canada was America;'s biggest customer. Now he knows to shut his mouth and focus on his russian buddies.

[OftenWrong]

On 2017-03-09 at 5:17 PM, taxme said:

 

BC being a part of Canada is starting to become a Province of illegal refugee criminals, and Canada one day may have to start rounding them up, and kicking them out. But that will probably have to wait until we can get a Trump PM for Canada one day.

 

It's sad that it has to come to this, but not surprising given the direction of politics over the past few decades. Our society has become increasingly polarized, there is no balance. Too many years of leftist rule that's soft on crime, too many years of liberal immigration laws inevitably leads to the rise of foreign-run organized criminal gangs. Drug crimes, sexual slavery are increasing common. The liberal approach to this is to legalize crimes, sanction slavery under the guise of "freedom of choice". But it's a lie. Eventually people have enough and react violently. By violently I mean, they want to elect a strongman to make major, drastic changes.

The problem too is that leftists have completely dismissed right wing views as wrong and irrelevant. For many decades, the political party that owned the middle owned the House. That is no longer the case, the middle's not where it's at.

[?Impact]

4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

It's sad that it has to come to this, but not surprising given the direction of politics over the past few decades. Our society has become increasingly polarized, there is no balance. Too many years of leftist rule

Right wing party has been in power

• 85% of last decade
• 45% of last 2 decades
• 65% of last 3 decades
• 60% of last 4 decades

I guess any 'leftist' is too much for you.

[OftenWrong]

4 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Right wing party has been in power

• 85% of last decade
• 45% of last 2 decades
• 65% of last 3 decades
• 60% of last 4 decades

Has BC been run under a right wing government for any of the numbers you listed? Definitely not. Would BC be different today if it had been?
Oh yeah.

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

Has BC been run under a right wing government for any of the numbers you listed?

The BC liberals are right wing

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

The BC liberals are right wing

Compared to the NDP in BC, everything seems 'Right Wing'.

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

 For many decades, the political party that owned the middle owned the House. That is no longer the case, the middle's not where it's at.

 

 

Do you consider yourself in the "middle"?

It's rather ironic that you decry political 'polarization' and then proceed to blame the 'left' for every perceived problem.   

Edited March 12, 2017 by dialamah

[capricorn]

OftenWrong is right.     As I understand it, owning the "middle" in terms of our politics, means the middle of the spectrum in political ideology. When Canadians are generally in "the middle", political parties normally structure their policies with that fact in mind in order to get elected.

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In politics, centrism or the center is a political outlook or specific position that involves acceptance or support of a balance of a degree of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy; while opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society either strongly to the left or the right.^[1]Centre-left and centre-right politics both involve a general association with centrism combined with leaning somewhat to their respective sides of the spectrum.

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Canada

Liberal Party of Canada is the dominant centrist party, they have traditionally positioned themselves as being more moderate and centrist than the Conservative Party of Canada or New Democratic Party, putting them somewhere between the centre and centre-left. The Liberals are currently the largest party in Canada's House of Commons. Although, some may argue that the Liberal Party is more of a Centre-Left then a Centrist party. The Liberal Party is fiscally conservative, with a liberal social agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism#Canada

[blackbird]

On 2016-11-09 at 6:55 AM, Argus said:

I don't think Trump thinks one way or the other about Canada, but I find it very hard to believe he's going to think much of Justin Trudeau, or vice versa. I think Trump and his VP are anathema to Trudeau and his entire cabinet. Trudeau or someone is going to have to sit on his people to keep them from making nasty comments to the media. Trump doesn't forget or forgive. 

Ironically, I think Harper would have gotten along with both him and Pence far better, particularly Pence, who is likely going to be by far the most powerful Vice President in US history. He and Harper share that evangelist stuff, and he and Trump would have respected Harper in a way they definitely won't respect Trudeau. 

This is going to be an isolationist government, and with so much of our trade with the US it's going to be important to try and maintain a good relationship, particularly in light of how vindictive and petty Trump can be towards perceived slights. It's going to be even harder because, no matter what he might say about wanting 'fair deals' in trade he has never sought fair deals with anyone before. He's sought to screw them over. Fortunately, Trump won't be in charge of much, other than as a general overseer. I think Pence will be the guy to deal with. Trump is not the sort to hold long meetings or read long reports. Pence will do that and verbally summarize what he thinks Trump needs to hear.

I don't think Pence is going to have much time for Trudeau either, though. Which does not bode well for NAFTA and other trans border agreements. I think the US is going to get even more heavy handed at its border because of the number of Muslims coming into Canada, and that Canada might also face heavy pressure due to its lack of military spending. In fact, Trump might want to make an example out of Trudeau in this regard. You can forget any sort of climate change legislation for the foreseeable future, which means Canada is left imposing heavy penalties on industries located here while no such penalties exist across the border. Which means even if NAFTA remains we're going to see a surge in relocations as industries move south to take advantage of the lower taxes and lower energy costs.

All in all, I see little good coming out of this presidency for Canada, other than that cross-border pipelines will be given the go-ahead.

Lots of good comments.

The U.S. always has been a tough negotiator on things like the lumber agreements.  Canada and/or the U.S. have gone to the arbitrator on the lumber agreements.  So I don't expect anything to change on that.

I don't think we will see any major changes to NAFTA because it is a good deal for both countries as it is.  There may be some slight tinkering.  Canada has top negotiators ready.  We have years of experience at it.  Shouldn't be any big problems.  I don't think Pence or any top officials will be involved themselves.  They probably don't know much about it.   It will be done by specialists in negotiating NAFTA.

[OftenWrong]

7 hours ago, dialamah said:

Do you consider yourself in the "middle"?

It's rather ironic that you decry political 'polarization' and then proceed to blame the 'left' for every perceived problem.   

Once polarization, or maybe call it extremism, sets in there's no way to play the game fairly anymore. It's like reducing to the lowest common denominator.

I consider myself an outside and my personal view is, we're on the VIA Rail to hell.

[OftenWrong]

6 hours ago, capricorn said:

OftenWrong is right.     As I understand it, owning the "middle" in terms of our politics, means the middle of the spectrum in political ideology. When Canadians

are generally in "the middle", political parties normally structure their policies with that fact in mind in order to get elected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism#Canada

6 hours ago, capricorn said:

The Liberal Party is fiscally conservative, with a liberal social agenda.

 

Why thanks Capricorn! Not so sure about that last part though... fiscally conservative?  

 

[dialamah]

4 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I consider myself an outside and my personal view is, we're on the VIA Rail to hell.

I keep finding points of agreement with you.   But I do I think we're in the Elite seats, us Westerner types, along with Saudi Arabians and others from rich countries.  Some lesser lights get coach, while Syrians and their ilk get the roof.

Hope hell is what people expect for themselves.