BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) I don't think Justin has to worry too much about Trump in the long term. The hacking investigation has been held very tightly to the vest in the Intelligence committees in both houses. I figure the Republicans are just going to get everything they ever wanted Executive Ordered and then they'll drop the bombshell of evidence and impeach him. Unless he just resigns first, for his own good. Edited February 3, 2017 by BubberMiley 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: I don't think Justin has to worry too much about Trump in the long term. The hacking investigation has been held very tightly to the vest in the Intelligence committees in both houses. I figure the Republicans are just going to get everything they ever wanted Executive Ordered and then they'll drop the bombshell of evidence and impeach him. Unless he just resigns first, for his own good. Even if President Trump were to be impeached, it doesn't mean he wouldn't serve a full term. Just ask President Bill Clinton....and Monica Lewinsky. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, BubberMiley said: I figure the Republicans are just going to get everything they ever wanted Executive Ordered and then they'll drop the bombshell of evidence and impeach him. Unless he just resigns first, for his own good. Hope is arisen. You know a quick shot of radioiodine can cure that in about 4 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, ?Impact said: If I ban the KKK from holding meetings on campus, am I banning all white Christians? No. Then, why do leftists and progressives say that banning the 7 countries is against ALL Muslims? Why are Canadians saying it's bigotry against religion? See what I mean? Double standard! Everybody's fine about banning Israeli students......but not with banning the 7 countries. Canada is fine with anti-Semitism, but furious about what they say is, "Islamophobia!" Canada has no credibility on lecturing Trump on bigotry and discrimination! We practice that, too! It's hypocritical! Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, BubberMiley said: I don't think Justin has to worry too much about Trump in the long term. The hacking investigation has been held very tightly to the vest in the Intelligence committees in both houses. I figure the Republicans are just going to get everything they ever wanted Executive Ordered and then they'll drop the bombshell of evidence and impeach him. Unless he just resigns first, for his own good. Assuming your wet fantasy happens.....if that happens........I wonder how Republican constituents will react to that? We'll really witness the Republican Party ripped apart. It'll mean the end of political careers for some. Are Republicans going to have that happen? Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Btw, they're saying on CTV that the meeting between Trump and Trudeau isn't going to happen on February! Imagine that. And our PM is soooooo wanting to meet asap! Don't imagine the wire hasn't been burning furiously trying to set this up. CTV correspondent says that Trump will be busy - what with the coming of Netanyahu to Washington! It's the "busy time-line." That's the excuse being given by CTV correspondent. If true, let's see how Canadian leftist media will bend like an athlete gymnast trying to save Trudeau's face for getting......snubbed. Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) I bet Trump will show that he doesn't give importance to Trudeau. I bet no special one-on-one meeting with Trudeau will happen in the near future. He's most likely to lump Trudeau with Pena, together in one meeting - and that will be when Trump is ready to talk NAFFTA! Payback for our PM's reckless tweets is most likely commencing. You think Trump doesn't know about Trudeau's promises to Canadians? Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Looks like Team Trudeau is scrambling hard for a new strategy for dealing with Team Trump. The old "soft power" methods won't work anymore, and Trump has more important things to do than worry about Canada's problems. Looks like good ole SPYING methods are required to figure this Trump guy out: http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/intelligence-on-us-1.3964604 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, betsy said: Assuming your wet fantasy happens.....if that happens........I wonder how Republican constituents will react to that? We'll really witness the Republican Party ripped apart. It'll mean the end of political careers for some. Are Republicans going to have that happen? Yes, perhaps wishful thinking. But the Republican Party is destroyed either way. In my scenario, at least, the country isn't completely destroyed as well. 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, BubberMiley said: Yes, perhaps wishful thinking. But the Republican Party is destroyed either way. In my scenario, at least, the country isn't completely destroyed as well. The Republican Party isn't destroyed. It had evolved under Trump. Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, betsy said: The Republican Party isn't destroyed. It had evolved under Trump. It will be after Trump is done with it. People tend to hold it against a party when they have crazed dictators as their leader. Judging from recent leaks (I.e. the Australia phone tantrum) there are people within the WH already working to get rid of him. 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: It will be after Trump is done with it. People tend to hold it against a party when they have crazed dictators as their leader. Judging from recent leaks (I.e. the Australia phone tantrum) there are people within the WH already working to get rid of him. What Republicans work to get rid of him, like McCain, are from the "NEVER TRUMP" group! What do you think? Of course they'll try their best to get rid of him! They want the Republican Party to be the way it's been - a liberal posing as a Conservative party - before Trump had taken, and given it back to its grass roots! Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, betsy said: What Republicans work to get rid of him, like McCain, are from the "NEVER TRUMP" group! What do you think? Of course they'll try their best to get rid of him! They want the Republican Party to be the way it's been - a liberal posing as a Conservative party - before Trump had taken, and given it back to its grass roots! They are all opportunistic and will disassociate themselves from him before they have to face reelection. The guy has a 57% disapproval rating in his honeymoon period. That's absolutely disastrous and it's not going to get any better. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, BubberMiley said: They are all opportunistic and will disassociate themselves from him before they have to face reelection. The guy has a 57% disapproval rating in his honeymoon period. That's absolutely disastrous and it's not going to get any better. That was during his "honeymoon" period. You've seen how contentious the election was. Politicians go past the honeymoon period. What matters is his approval rating close to election! Btw, his approval rating as of today is 54%, according to Rasmussen. Quote Despite continuing protests and legal challenges, voters by a 52% to 43% margin favor Trump''s temporary refugee ban. Fifty-six percent (56%) favor the temporary block on visas prohibiting residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from entering the United States until the government approves its ability to screen for likely terrorists. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb3 Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 50 minutes ago, betsy said: Btw, his approval rating as of today is 54%, according to Rasmussen. Perhaps you forgot to type the "dis" on the front of that word. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317845-trump-has-lowest-approval-ratings-of-any-new-president-ever http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Omni said: Perhaps you forgot to type the "dis" on the front of that word. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317845-trump-has-lowest-approval-ratings-of-any-new-president-ever http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/ Well.... I'll settle with Rasmussen. It was among those few who'd given the poll that Trump was winning the race to the White House. Edited February 3, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Omni said: Perhaps you forgot to type the "dis" on the front of that word. I think betsy is aware that Rasmussen tends to have a conservative bias in their polls. They use automated call machines, and select 'likely' voters rather than general adult population. This particular poll seems to be even more off than they have been in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: Well.... I'll settle with Rasmussen. It was among those few who'd given the poll that Trump was winning the race to the White House. Alrighty then. And perhaps you will then listen more closely to Michael Moore as he also tried to send out a warning about Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) On 2/3/2017 at 5:28 PM, ?Impact said: I think betsy is aware that Rasmussen tends to have a conservative bias in their polls. They use automated call machines, and select 'likely' voters rather than general adult population. This particular poll seems to be even more off than they have been in the past. Not biased. That's the point. Their method had got their prediction right. Trump was winning. You dare mention CNN and bias at the same post? All your sources, especially the CNN is what's biased. They were all pushing and feeding the public fake polls - in the hope of influencing the election. Why do you think they were all off the mark? Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) On 2/3/2017 at 5:29 PM, Omni said: Alrighty then. And perhaps you will then listen more closely to Michael Moore as he also tried to send out a warning about Trump. Heck, Michael Moore? Here's an article by the late Christopher Hitchens. Quote Unfairenheit 9/11 The lies of Michael Moore. By Christopher Hitchens http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2004/06/unfairenheit_911.html Michael Moore is to politics, what Richard Dawkins is to Philosophy. They're salespeople, selling you their docs or books. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Again, before we take umbrage over the executive order of Trump on immigration, let's take a look at our own nation...... Quote Context In the 1930s, Canadians experienced a profound economic recession complicated by drought and the collapse of trade: the Great Depression. Since many immigrants came to Canada as farmers or labourers, they were particularly vulnerable during the economic downturn. Further, Canadian public debate at the time often included a strong element of nativism, as expressed by Rev. W.B. Williston of Cochrane, Ontario: “The public rightly ask, that you remove from this place, the Russian and other European people, who have only been in this country for a short time, and particularly the men of this class who are sending all their earnings back to Europe, should not be allowed to have the work on the Power and R.R. construction, while hundreds of Canadians are standing in the bread line.”[2] Sentiments like Rev. Williston’s were widespread in Canada during the early 1930s, when about one-quarter of the Canadian labour force was unemployed.[3] This created tremendous pressure on governments to respond to the dire labour conditions with exclusionary immigration policies. Immigration Policy In 1930-31, the Canadian government responded to the Great Depression by applying severe restrictions to entry. With screening abroad and at the border tightened, the immigration branch intensified their work in another area of exclusionary immigration practice: deportation. This had been developing for some time. After restrictive amendments to the immigration act passed in 1919, Secretary of Immigration F.C. Blair asked the minister of immigration and colonization to sign blank deportation orders in bulk. By way of reassurance, Blair stated that he was “convinced that this would not open the door to any abuse.”[6] Following these changes in policy and practice, the deportation rate during the Great Depression spiked to about six times prior rates, and about 25,000 immigrants were sent out of Canada. Although unemployed workers were key targets, illness, ideology, or perceived immorality were also grounds for deportation. https://www.pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/deportation-from-canada-during-the-great-depression Those reasons above - labor, employment - are reflected in Trump's new policy. But most importantly, added to it is a deep concern for national security. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) If you think Trump can't toy with Trudeau, here we go...... NEXUS CARDS REVOKED! Quote Nexus memberships have been revoked from all Canadian permanent residents with citizenship in any one of the seven majority-Muslim countries affected by the U.S. travel ban, the Canada Border Services Agency has confirmed to CBC Toronto. Citing U.S. Customs and Border Protection, a CBSA spokesperson said in an email that FAST memberships have also been revoked from all such individuals. FAST is a program similar to Nexus that is meant to speed up commercial shipments across the border. The email goes on to say that memberships of dual citizens have not been cancelled. But CBC Toronto has learned of multiple Canadian-born and dual citizens who have reportedly had their Nexus memberships revoked in the wake of a U.S. executive order barring entry to passport holders from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen. Toronto-based lawyer Cyndee Todgham Cherniak said she has been contacted by at least two Canadian-born citizens with Muslim-sounding names who received notices. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/u-s-revokes-all-nexus-cards-from-canadian-permanent-residents-with-citizenship-in-restricted-countries-cbsa-1.3966514 Quote Nexus cards give “low-risk, preapproved travellers” preclearance at designated ports of entry when travelling between Canada and the United States, allowing them to avoid long lineups and waiting times. U.S. Customs and Border Protection did not respond to a request for comment regarding the impacts of the immigration ban on Nexus card holders. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/report-of-revoked-nexus-cards-after-trump-order-prompts-federal-scramble/article33893747/ USA doesn't trust our screening process! Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, betsy said: USA doesn't trust our screening process! Agreed...just ask Ahmed Ressam. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) There were already problems before Trump came into office! Quote Canada's Syrian Refugee Plan To Be Vetted By U.S. Congressional Panel CP | By Alexander Panetta, The Canadian Press Posted: 01/26/2016 / Updated: 01/26/2017 WASHINGTON — The Canadian government has fired off a pre-emptive strike before American lawmakers hold a hearing in which the northern neighbour's Syria refugee policy will be on the hot seat. It sent a note to members of a powerful U.S. Senate committee that has scheduled a meeting next week titled, "Canada's Fast-Track Refugee Plan: Unanswered Questions and Implications for U.S. National Security." http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/01/26/canada-refugee-plan-on-hot-seat-us-congress-holds-hearing-on-neighbour-s-policy_n_9081532.html That was with Obama as President. All the more so now with Trump on the helm! And I'm telling you, Trudeau made a big blunder poking at Trump with that stupid tweet, welcoming everyone into Canada. You'll see. What's he thinking? With that hot issue already on the table even last year.....and now Justin goes even further at teasing the bear! With that tweet, Trudeau had, unwittingly, placed some of our dual-card holders in an unnecessary hot seat! He's put the spotlight on them, drawing attention, and had Trump taken a good look! Well, Trudeau's got his attention now. Good luck with that. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed...just ask Ahmed Ressam. I'd have given you a like, but I'm still unable to as of this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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