?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed...just ask Ahmed Ressam. Ressam was cleared by United States Immigration and Naturalization Service. It seems like the US screening process is what is failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, ?Impact said: Ressam was cleared by United States Immigration and Naturalization Service. It seems like the US screening process is what is failing. Ressam was a refugee in Canada who conspired and attempted to commit a terrorist act "on American soil". President Trump should strive to protect the U.S. from all terrorists, foreign and domestic. Canada welcomes refugees and emigres who may associate with or conspire with terrorist organizations. Canada is not responsible for U.S. borders, and it acts like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Looks like the orange oligarch has lost the ban on muslims in US and is going into tantrums. 53% of people in US are against the ban. The orangeman Trump is described as ISIS in german Spiegel. Herr Oberführer is losing credibility fast at home and around the world. He understands no facts and acts on his narcissistic emotions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ressam was a refugee in Canada No, Ressam entered Canada with a false Canadian passport under the name Benni Antoine Noris. It was shortly after that when baptismal certificates were no longer allowed as proof of birth, another loophole created by the Christian church was closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, ?Impact said: No, Ressam entered Canada with a false Canadian passport under the name Benni Antoine Noris. It was shortly after that when baptismal certificates were no longer allowed as proof of birth, another loophole created by the Christian church was closed. Feeble excuses are not good enough....Canada permitted entry to a refugee who subsequently conspired to commit terrorist acts in the United States. If Canada wants refugees to commit terrorism in Canada, that is Canada's business. Canada has long been known as a revolving door for foreign nationals with an agenda, including American draft dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Feeble excuses are not good enough....Canada permitted entry to a refugee who subsequently conspired to commit terrorist acts in the United States. Except as I explained many times before that is not what happened. Canada permitted entry of someone under a Canadian passport obtained by falsified documents, which is exactly what the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Except as I explained many times before that is not what happened. Canada permitted entry of someone under a Canadian passport obtained by falsified documents, which is exactly what the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service did. Sorry...it was Canada who granted entry on refugee, not immigration grounds. Instead of deporting Ressam, Canada even provided him welfare benefits for years. Ahmed Ressam was admitted to and resided in North America to plot his crimes because Canada welcomed him. Canada current government has stated it will continue to do the same, so it is incumbent upon President Trump to enforce extreme vetting and bans. Edited February 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Sorry...it was Canada who granted entry on refugee, not immigration grounds. Instead of deporting Ressam, Canada even provided him welfare benefits for years. Canada had an arrest warrant out for Ressam, and he left the country. He returned under the Canadian passport obtained under falsified documents, no different that the US INS. Why did the US INS fail so badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, ?Impact said: Canada had an arrest warrant out for Ressam, and he left the country. He returned under the Canadian passport obtained under falsified documents, no different that the US INS. Why did the US INS fail so badly? The US did not admit entry to a terrorist who subsequently attempted to blow up a Canadian airport. Canada's fingerprints are all over the Ahmed Ressam "file". Terrorism against the U.S. was launched from Canada and conspirators residing in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The US did not admit entry to a terrorist who subsequently attempted to blow up a Canadian airport. The US did admit entry to 19 terrorists, and trained them to fly planes which they subsequently did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ?Impact said: The US did admit entry to 19 terrorists, and trained them to fly planes which they subsequently did. So ? Doesn't mean that borders should not be protected from the terrorist refugees and immigrants that Canada readily welcomes. Terrorism was launched from Canada against the United States...before 9/11/01. Edited February 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ahmed Ressam (Arabic: احمد رسام; also Benni Noris or the Millennium Bomber; born May 9, 1967) is an Algerian al-Qaeda member. Why is Algeria not in the list of banned country by Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So ? Doesn't mean that borders should not be protected from the terrorist refugees and immigrants that Canada readily welcomes. Terrorism was launched from Canada against the United States...before 9/11/01. Really? Explain how.....and if the US would keep its "interest" at home and not invading other countries, USA wouldn't have no many world problems or a "X" on your back,but u must know that, right? let's make the US great AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ahmed Ressam conspired to attack the United States from Canada, hence Canada should also be on the travel ban for extreme vetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, Topaz said: Really? Explain how.....and if the US would keep its "interest" at home and not invading other countries, USA wouldn't have no many world problems or a "X" on your back,but u must know that, right? let's make the US great AGAIN! Irrelevant to this Trump and Canada thread. Canada admitted entry to and provided welfare for a refugee who conspired to commit terrorist acts against the United States. Canada's liberal refugee and immigrant policies are a threat to the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 You are not making sense....The 7 countries that are on Orangeman's list banned from US that have not committed any attack on US soil and you are holding Canada responsible for an Algerian national that conspired to attack the US? Hmmm! Let's make America great and safe again! Not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 minute ago, kactus said: and you are holding Canada responsible for an Algerian national that conspired to attack the US? Hmmm! Also an Algerian national that Canada had an outstanding arrest warrant for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Also an Algerian national that Canada had an outstanding arrest warrant for. A terrorist attack on the United States was plotted in Canada and attempted from Canada. Canada can welcome all the Algerian terrorists it wants, but the U.S. doesn't have to permit entry. Edited February 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Also an Algerian national that Canada had an outstanding arrest warrant for. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ?Impact said: Ressam was cleared by United States Immigration and Naturalization Service. It seems like the US screening process is what is failing. So was the San Bernardino wife terrorist. She got in. That's from the previous admin. Trump's going to fix it, that's why they got this temporary ban. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) These were included in the list that the White House released as terrorist attacks that were under-reported. Quote QUEBEC, CANADA October, 2014 TARGET: One soldier killed and one wounded in vehicle attack ATTACKER: Martin Couture-RouleauOTTAWA, CANADA October, 2014 TARGET: One soldier killed at war memorial; two wounded in shootings at Parliament building ATTACKER: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau http://abc7chicago.com/politics/white-house-releases-list-of-under-reported-terrorist-attacks/1741074/ Edited February 8, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) If refugees can simply walk across the prairies from USA to Canada........they can just as simply walk across from Canada to the USA. The more media highlights the border-crossing refugees trying to escape the orders of Trump, the more border security issue gets emphasized. I see border security will be a big issue for Trump! How will Trudeau handle that? Edited February 8, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 2017-02-05 at 4:47 AM, betsy said: Not biased. That's the point. Their method had got their prediction right. Trump was winning. They had him winning the popular vote. He lost that by about 3 million. So no, they don't got their prediction right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Canadians now prefer President Trump over the very inexperienced Justin Trudeau for economic policies: Quote OTTAWA — Despite deep overall disapproval of U.S. President Donald Trump, Canadians prefer Trump’s approach to managing the economy and national security over the approach of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, according to a poll taken on the eve of Trump’s inauguration. ....But on economic policy, 53 per cent of Canadians approve of what Trump is doing versus 43 per cent of Canadians who approve of what Trudeau is doing. Trudeau’s “disapproval” rating on economic policy is 41 per cent while Trump’s disapproval on this issue is just 22 per cent. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/canadians-deeply-dislike-trump-but-prefer-him-to-trudeau-on-economy-security-poll The funny part is why are Canadians being polled about President Trump's policies in the first place....he sure ain't Canadian ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/5/2017 at 9:19 AM, bush_cheney2004 said: So ? Doesn't mean that borders should not be protected from the terrorist refugees and immigrants that Canada readily welcomes. Terrorism was launched from Canada against the United States...before 9/11/01. So? How come Saudi Arabia is not on your list then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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