America under President Trump

Shady · April 3, 2020

1 minute ago, Boges said:

He's in charge of the Federal government. They should be co-ordinating the distribution of PPE and not having states fight over it.

They are.

Boges · April 3, 2020

Just now, Shady said:

They are.

Not according to State Governors. You think I just make this up?

Shady · April 3, 2020

Just now, Boges said:

Not according to State Governors. You think I just make this up?

They can't prohibit states from trying to acquire material on their own. Wow, you really think that Trump has some kind of real dictatorial power huh?

bush_cheney2004 · April 3, 2020

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

He's in charge of the Federal government. They should be co-ordinating the distribution of PPE and not having states fight over it.

Procurement and distribution are two very different things. FEMA buys emergency stockpiles, not state level consumption.

Shady · April 3, 2020

Yes, you are making stuff up. Especially the part of no federal response. It's a flat out lie. I'm ignoring you now. You're posts are complete misinformation.

Shady · April 3, 2020

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Procurement and distribution are two very different things. FEMA buys emergency stockpiles, not state level consumption.

Unfortunately he doesn't know what the eff he's talking about. I'm done with his lies and misinformation.

bush_cheney2004 · April 3, 2020

Just now, Shady said:

Unfortunately he doesn't know what the eff he's talking about. I'm done with his lies and misinformation.

Well, when this is all over, those of us who are still alive will know what to hoard next time.....masks !

Shady · April 3, 2020

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Well, when this is all over, those of us who are still alive will know what to hoard next time.....masks !

Exactly.

Anyways, if anyone's interested in the federal response that Boges claims doesn't exist, here it is.

https://www.usa.gov/coronavirus

Administration for Children and Families has program information for children, families, and communities.
Administration for Community Living offers information for older adults, and people with disabilities.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is studying the virus worldwide and helping communities respond locally. Check the CDC’s Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) page for news and guidance.
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid has guidance for Medicare recipients and Medicare providers.
Consumer Product Safety Commission home safety advice.
Corporation for National and Community Service guidance for volunteers and programs.
Defense Commissary Agency is ensuring the quality and safety of food available at commissaries world-wide.
Department of Defense supports the government response, and is working to protect the health of the military.
Department of Energy is researching COVID-19 at the National Labs.
Department of Health and Human Services news releases.
Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) is developing new medical treatments.
Department of Homeland Security is facilitating a whole-of-government response in confronting COVID-19, keeping Americans safe, and helping detect and slow the spread of the virus.
Department of Labor has information for employers and workers on preparing workplaces and responding to COVID-19 in the workplace.
Department of Veterans Affairs is caring for Veterans.
Environmental Protection Agency has information about disinfectants that can kill COVID-19 and facts about water safety.
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) warns of increase in child abuse due to school closures, and offers tips on what you can do to protect children and report abuse.
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission news and updates.
Food and Drug Administration is working with the medical industry to develop vaccines, drugs, and diagnostic tests. For healthcare professionals, they offer FAQs about diagnostic testing.
Indian Health Service is coordinating the public health response for American Indians and Alaska Natives.
Military Community and Family Policy offers advice and information for the military community.
Military Health System offers health advice, and updates on travel restrictions for members of the military.
National Aeronautics and Space Administration tips for isolation and educational activities.
National Cancer Institute guidance for cancer patients and guidance for cancer researchers.
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences has virtual safety training for frontline responders.
National Institutes of Health are researching COVID-19 treatments and a vaccine.
National Institute on Drug Abuse advice for people with substance use disorders.
Navy and Marine Corps Public Health Center published guidance for healthcare providers.
U.S. Department of Agriculture answers questions about food safety and pet safety.
U.S. Fire Administration published infection control guidance for first responders.

Add to this some 10 thousand ventilators sent out to states, as well as tens of millions of gloves, masks and other PPE.

Shady · April 3, 2020

In fact, the U.S. is being accused of buying equipment meant for other countries. But there's no federal response! :lol:

US buys out France-bound Chinese masks right off tarmac

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-buys-out-france-bound-chinese-masks-right-off-tarmac/1789498

Edited April 3, 2020 by Shady

bush_cheney2004 · April 3, 2020

Just now, Shady said:

In fact, the U.S. is being accused of buying equipment meant for other countries. But there's no federal response!

US buys out France-bound Chinese masks right off tarmac

The joke here is that they bought the plane too !

Shady · April 3, 2020

No federal response

Feds distribute thousands of surgical masks, gloves seized by FBI

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-distribute-thousands-of-surgical-masks-gloves-seized-by-fbi/ar-BB125qU2

Shady · April 3, 2020

More of the no federal response! :lol:

Federal officials distribute half-a-million medical supplies including 200,000 N95 masks to health workers in New York and New Jersey

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8181431/Federal-officials-distribute-half-million-medical-supplies-seizing-hoarders.html

Shady · April 3, 2020

Anyone else find it ironic that Trudeau needs to rely on American imports to provide for Canadians and Canadian hospitals? Obviously he wasn't at all prepared for any kind of pandemic, and there aren't any kind of strategic stockpiles here.

pinky tuscadero · April 3, 2020

7 minutes ago, Shady said:

Anyone else find it ironic that Trudeau needs to rely on American imports to provide for Canadians and Canadian hospitals? Obviously he wasn't at all prepared for any kind of pandemic, and there aren't any kind of strategic stockpiles here.

That does strike me as odd.

I don't have enough grilled cheeses because Shady won't give me any.

In the US presser yesterday this issue of federal stock going out was raised and the FEMA rep responded with:

- one request was for 250 ventilators, when pointed out they don't have any corona cases, they replied that they might need them in the future

- some states don't have any idea how many ventilators/other stock are even in their own states (ie areas not needing them send to areas that do)

- they have a checklist system to determine if requisitions will be filled

OftenWrong · April 13, 2020

Meanwhile there are other things happening in the world you know, besides your on-going virus quarantine. We freemen are able to go out into the world and see what's really happening. The rest of you will have to wait until further information can be provided.

Diane Francis: Oil prices are going to recover — and we have Donald Trump to thank for that

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On Sunday, OPEC and Russia agreed to reduce output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, which is equal to about 10 per cent of global supply. On Monday morning, prices were up around one per cent, but were still around half of what they were a year earlier.

While the price-fixers’ truce may be bumpy, as the oil market indicates, Trump has applied the brakes to the cartel’s pricing power, and with it, the geopolitical clout of its members. And this, as the world climbs out of the coronavirus calamity, is a positive reform because energy is the lifeblood of all economies.

Go Trump Go

Boges · May 11, 2020

I'll keep to the all encompassing Trump thread instead of the dozens that are popping up.

Stephen Miller's wife has COVID19! She's an aide to Mike Pence.

The only way they can justify not having Trump, Pence and everyone in the White House under Quarantine is because they say they're testing every day.

Apparently Fauci and the Head of the CDC are under Quarantine!

That's funny. Because Trump is also minimizing the value of broad testing across the country. They're trying to open parts of the country as cases are spiking without any avenue to test.

This is a classic example of Cart Before Horse.

A National Testing program is hard, telling people to go to work and sacrifice their health is easy.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Boges

bush_cheney2004 · May 11, 2020

1 minute ago, Boges said:

That's funny. Because Trump is also minimizing the value of broad testing across the country. They're trying to open parts of the country as cases are spiking without any avenue to test.

This is a classic example of Cart Before Horse.

No it's not....some states are finding that ramped up testing capacity is not being matched by demand. People are not flocking to the testing tents or walk-in clinics in necessary sampling numbers to meet the statistical models proposed for reopening.

White House staffers can be tested multiple times per day.

Boges · May 11, 2020

29 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No it's not....some states are finding that ramped up testing capacity is not being matched by demand. People are not flocking to the testing tents or walk-in clinics in necessary sampling numbers to meet the statistical models proposed for reopening.

White House staffers can be tested multiple times per day.

Can you cite that?

AFIK Normos like you and me can only get tested if they have symptoms.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Boges

New World Disorder · May 11, 2020

On 4/13/2020 at 6:25 PM, OftenWrong said:

Meanwhile there are other things happening in the world you know, besides your on-going virus quarantine. We freemen are able to go out into the world and see what's really happening. The rest of you will have to wait until further information can be provided.

Diane Francis: Oil prices are going to recover — and we have Donald Trump to thank for that

Go Trump Go

There is no where to store the oil. This is the reason they are cutting back plain and simple.

bush_cheney2004 · May 11, 2020

10 minutes ago, Boges said:

Can you site that?

AFIK Normos like you and me can only get tested if they have symptoms.

That's the problem with expanded testing...not enough sampling can be done if people are not allowed to be tested. Governments are going to have to change an already confusing message to get proper sampling of all groups.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/as-it-starts-reopening-a-new-report-says-michigan-is-still-woefully-behind-on-testing

Edited May 11, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

Boges · May 11, 2020

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

That's the problem with expanded testing...not enough sampling can be done if people are not allowed to be tested. Governments are going to have to change an already confusing message to get proper sampling of all groups.

But there's a finite number of tests.

Right now governments are rationing them.

The goal if we're going to have try and determine the public's exposure is an anti-body test. But no reliable test has reached mass market.

bush_cheney2004 · May 11, 2020

Just now, Boges said:

But there's a finite number of tests.

Right now governments are rationing them.

The goal if we're going to have try and determine the public's exposure is an anti-body test. But no reliable test has reached mass market.

But the same problem would occur....there is a mismatch for testing criteria and expanded capacity.

taxme · May 11, 2020

On 4/3/2020 at 8:23 AM, Boges said:

Not according to State Governors. You think I just make this up?

I believe that you make up way too much leftist liberal nonsense for anyone with any common sense and logic to want to believe or swallow anymore. You obviously are very anti-Trump, and just like the anti-Trump American and Canadian medias. You and they will look for anything you and they can find and say or do to try and come up with something negative to attack and mock Donald Trump on. It is just an automatic reaction with you/they in the fake and phony American media. If Trump said it looks like it is going to be a nice sunny day today, the lying media will say, no it's not, the weather is going to be overcast today. Usually, the American lying media always end up making big asses of themselves again, and the sun did shine that day.

The American media has to always go the opposite to what Trump says. They must never say anything positive and good about Trump. Trump must always appear to be a negative person and always to be portrayed as the big bad bogeyman of the world. So far, those fake and phony so called journalists, they appear more like Hollywood actors now, are still losing their war with Trump. No pity from me for those bunch of loser in the media buffoons. :lol:

Moonlight Graham · May 11, 2020

I've never seen a man so brilliant and so stupid at the same time as Trump. He's quite the character.

He could have gone down as a great POTUS if he wasn't so ignorant and arrogant.

Tdot · May 11, 2020

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I've never seen a man so brilliant and so stupid at the same time as Trump. He's quite the character.

He could have gone down as a great POTUS if he wasn't so ignorant and arrogant.

Stop hallucinating in here.

President Trump is brilliant and he is quite the character plus he is already a great POTUS and history will solidify this fact.