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2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

If President Trump were to donate all monies spent at the G7, say to crippled children  . . . hypothetical scenario. Would that be ok with you, or would you bitch about that too?

He's a dick.  But at least he's interesting enough to be off my ignore list.

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1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

No, the mission is now to extract from the theater to reposition against a shifting threat, Afghanistan is neither here nor there, the mission was never to seize and hold Afghanistan forever.

Mission comes first, the men come second, a professional soldier soldier's for soldiering's sake, a mere instrument of policy, by his own free will, contract of unlimited liability.

People born on 9/11 are now old enough to join the military.  So is two decades long enough?  WWI and WWII combined did not last this long.

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9 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

People born on 9/11 are now old enough to join the military.  So is two decades long enough?  WWI and WWII combined did not last this long.

Terrorism is simply banditry on the fringes of the hegenomy, it never goes away, those who sign the contract of unlimited liability to serve, are the legions of American freedom.

In terms of Afghanistan, the mission was accomplished long time ago, it simply mission creeped into some sort of misguided humanitarian effort to dictate to the Afghans.

With the takeover of the GOP by the populists, that mission creep is now being brought to an end, and rightly so.  

The Americans will be keeping a small force in Afghanistan to monitor, but they could have done that long time ago.

Barack Obama simply said that the humanitarian operation in Afghanistan was a strategic imperative, and so did Hillary

So nothing could be done about it until Trump was able to order negotiations for the purposes of an orderly extraction.

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Bear in mind that the analogy to the World Wars is nonsensical.

Counterterrorism is an ongoing defense of Pax Americana.

The American Hegenomy is not under existential threat in of itself, bandits simply need to be contained.

World Wars are wars of hegemonic succession, in the case of the First and Second, British Hegemonic succession to the American Hegenomy.

World War Three will be when the American Hegenomy is challenged by a new Hegemon, but so far there is no competing Hegenomy, no, not even the Chinese, even the Chinese are within the American Hegenomy, King Dollar rules in China as well, otherwise known as Chimerica.

Even the Soviets, while intransigent, were part of the Hegemony, as they were propped up by King Dollar as well, the Cold War was simply a dispute over the Potsdam Agreement at the Inner German Border, particularly at Berlin.

Canada tries to erect an Iron Curtain against American freedom too,  that doesn't mean Canada is not in the Hegemony ruled by King Dollar, Canada, like the Soviets, is simply being intransigent, a self defeating Potemkin Village as well.

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5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Completely immaterial point.  There's no exception for enri hi yourself based on salary.

Not immaterial at all. Obama took money for trying to be a real President. He failed. Obama just bought himself a 15 million dollar home on the ocean. I wonder how or where he stole, oops I mean, got that kind of money from? Trump showed the American people that he did not want to take their tax dollars and get paid to be a real president of the USA. Everybody tries to enrich themselves, even you. Do you ever think before you speak? Just wondering. 

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21 hours ago, GostHacked said:

However Milania looked like she would take Trudeau back to the hotel room. It's probably been a long time since she's been with a real man. :D

Melania Trump already has a real man to go back to a hotel room with. She knows a man when she sees or is with one. She sees no man in boy wonder Trudeau. There is no chance in hell that she would ever go anywhere with boy fancy socks wonder. The way boy wonder Trudeau acts these days, he appears to like girlie men quite a lot as he always likes to attend their gay parades and likes to snuggle and flirt up next to them. I wonder if his wife is wondering as to whether he is still a man for her or not? Just wondering. :lol:

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6 hours ago, Boges said:

Yeah Trump's fake blonde hair and Orange makeup is the epitome of masculinity. :lol:

What a self-serving brat Trump is. Pledging to make the next G7 meeting at his failing Miami Golf Course and Resort. :rolleyes:

During Hurricane season to boot. I guess that's why he wants to drop nukes on them. :lol:

Jealousy will get you nowhere.  :P

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12 minutes ago, Boges said:

One would have to be pretty grotesque to be jealous of Trump's "Look". 

Trump sure looks pretty great looking to me, and he sure has been a great leader for America. Unlike your hero comrade Trudeau who will never succeed at looking or doing anything great for Canada because he is no good at doing anything that would be great for Canada.  Every thing he touches he breaks. He has touched Canada and he has broken it and look at the mess that this twit has done to Canada.  He has made Canada the laughing stock of the world. At least Trump has the respect of the world. Canada looks like a sucker to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world knows that. Trudeau is "grotesque". -_-

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Trump sure looks pretty great looking to me, and he sure has been a great leader for America. Unlike your hero comrade Trudeau who will never succeed at looking or doing anything great for Canada because he is no good at doing anything that would be great for Canada.  Every thing he touches he breaks. He has touched Canada and he has broken it and look at the mess that this twit has done to Canada.  He has made Canada the laughing stock of the world. At least Trump has the respect of the world. Canada looks like a sucker to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world knows that. Trudeau is "grotesque". -_-

Pivoting to JT doesn't really work on me. You'd think your talking points should recognize that not everyone that's Anti Trump is Pro Trudeau. 

Regardless, please cite things that make Canada "Broken".

Also, could you cite comparable mocking at the World Stage that Trump receives. 

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1 hour ago, Boges said:

Pivoting to JT doesn't really work on me. You'd think your talking points should recognize that not everyone that's Anti Trump is Pro Trudeau. 

Regardless, please cite things that make Canada "Broken".

Also, could you cite comparable mocking at the World Stage that Trump receives. 

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For starters: How about the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars that are being given away in the form of foreign aid to 3rd world countries? How about the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars that have been blown on all the legal and illegal so called refugees that have been brought to Canada over the past several decades? How about the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars that have been blown on bilingualism and multiculturalism? Those three alone has cost the Canadian taxpayer's trillions over the decades. That is what and why Canada is "broken". We can talk about how corrupt this present day government is and what it has been doing for the last four years in Canada to try and pretty much bankrupt us all. A country like Canada cannot keep borrowing money from the globalist banksters by the trillions and expect to not end up being "broken". Are those "cites" good enough for you? If you cannot get the picture by now than why should I bother with you on this any further? Have you got any "cites" as to where you can show me that Canada is not "broken"? Go ahead, make your day. 

No one actually is mocking Trudeau like they are doing to Trump like in that photo because Trudeau is the world's globalist darling. So why would they mock the hand that feeds them? Pretty much the whole dam world is making a mockery of Canada and Canadians thanks to this fool of a prime mistake of Canada that has told the rest of the world to come on over, the border gates are wide open to walk right on in. Trudeau being a globalist is making a mockery of himself also. The fool is being used by the globalist elite like G. Soros and he is too stupid enough to see it. Comrade Trudeau is destroying this once great British/European nation and appears to be loving it all.  Trudeau appears to be one stupid stunned politically correct twit and thanks to that twit we all are suffering and being made a mockery of by the globalist elite and the rest of the world. Immigrants do not even have to become a real Canadian anymore and accept our values and customs and ways of life. Just get here and we will pay for and help you to preserve your culture and language and religion for you. All Canadians love you, just get here. Disgusting. :unsure:

 

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20 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Terrorism is simply banditry on the fringes of the hegenomy, it never goes away, those who sign the contract of unlimited liability to serve, are the legions of American freedom.

In terms of Afghanistan, the mission was accomplished long time ago, it simply mission creeped into some sort of misguided humanitarian effort to dictate to the Afghans.

The mission was not accomplished. Afghanistan is still a place loaded with terrorists. And now the USA wants to negotiate with the same terrorists that helped other terrorists bring down the WTC.

20 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Bear in mind that the analogy to the World Wars is nonsensical.

Not at all. It's just a simple fact that the USA has been in Afghanistan for close to 20 years. Some estimates it's costing the USA 3-4 B a month to continue operations there. And yet no money for healthcare for Americans..

Absolutely shameful.

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3 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

The mission was not accomplished. Afghanistan is still a place loaded with terrorists. And now the USA wants to negotiate with the same terrorists that helped other terrorists bring down the WTC.

Not at all. It's just a simple fact that the USA has been in Afghanistan for close to 20 years. Some estimates it's costing the USA 3-4 B a month to continue operations there. And yet no money for healthcare for Americans..

Absolutely shameful.

Whatever, talking to you is pointless, you don't know what you're talking about so it just goes round and round, you just want to America Bash, which is your prerogative, but it's all anybody does in Canada, so it's boring.

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6 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Whatever, talking to you is pointless, you don't know what you're talking about so it just goes round and round, you just want to America Bash, which is your prerogative, but it's all anybody does in Canada, so it's boring.

Such hyperbole. And the bashing is well deserved. OH NO ASSAD HAS WEAPONS..   I guess we forgot about the bullshit propaganda that was pushed out to go into Iraq.

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3 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Such hyperbole. And the bashing is well deserved. OH NO ASSAD HAS WEAPONS..   I guess we forgot about the bullshit propaganda that was pushed out to go into Iraq.

Propaganda is no crime, it's free speech, the alternative is civil war, is that what you would prefer?

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4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Propaganda is no crime, it's free speech, the alternative is civil war, is that what you would prefer?

What do you think is happening in Syria? The USA has had had direct involvement in that. It seems you are very ok with officials lying their asses off to start another war. That's troubling.

 

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2 hours ago, GostHacked said:

What do you think is happening in Syria? The USA has had had direct involvement in that. It seems you are very ok with officials lying their asses off to start another war. That's troubling.

War is troubling, but in terms of overthrowing Assad, that's an humanitarian impulse, the Obama Administration took it upon themselves to intervene, I see it more as misguided, interventionist politicians are naive.  Do I think Barack Obama intervened in Syria for the purposes of aggression?  No. He was just deluding himself into being Team America World Police.  Is that wrong?  Strategically yes, but morally no, his heart was in the right place, bur wishful thinking is a helluva drug, as Yzermandias would say.

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14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

War is troubling, but in terms of overthrowing Assad, that's an humanitarian impulse, the Obama Administration took it upon themselves to intervene, I see it more as misguided, interventionist politicians are naive.  Do I think Barack Obama intervened in Syria for the purposes of aggression?  No. He was just deluding himself into being Team America World Police.  Is that wrong?  Strategically yes, but morally no, his heart was in the right place, bur wishful thinking is a helluva drug, as Yzermandias would say.

Humanitarian Pixie Dust is also a helluva drug. Obama had a mountain of it on his desk, like Scarface, when it came to Syria and Libya. Heart was in the right place, sure, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, so it's best to lay off the HPD.

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