Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: If Wisconsin and Florida are more red in 2020 than they were in 2016, which seems likely based, the Democrats need to flip Texas to win, and good luck with that when you are running on McGovernism. The Democrats are going to get smoked outside of the Blue Bubble, they will dominate inside the Blue Bubble, but to do so they alienate everybody outside of it. Most people who vote for Trump do so more out of hatred for the left not love of Trump. Trump is just the messenger; screw you, Commies & Trannies. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The Democrats are going to get smoked outside of the Blue Bubble, they will dominate inside the Blue Bubble, but to do so they alienate everybody outside of it. Most people who vote for Trump do so more out of hatred for the left not love of Trump. Trump is just the messenger; screw you, Commies & Trannies. They think they can flip Texas by running up the vote in the urban centers, it's that level of delusion on their part. Maybe in a decade or two Dems, but y'all are seriously jumping the gun on that. Pushing the gun grabbing doesn't play well in Texas, and that's putting it lightly. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They think they can flip Texas by running up the vote in the urban centers, it's that level of delusion on their part. Maybe in a decade or two Dems, but y'all are seriously jumping the gun on that. Pushing the gun grabbing doesn't play well in Texas, and that's putting it lightly. Indeed, Austin will rule Texas someday, but that's not gonna be in 2020, Beto. Gun control is death for the Democrats, it's crippling them, but they're stuck with it now, so they will continue to impale themselves on that petard. Only Nixon Can Go To China; Trump can actually get away with gun grabbing, because he's the lesser of two gun grabbing evils by far. Edited September 4, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Indeed, Austin will rule Texas someday, but that's not gonna be in 2020, Beto. Gun control is death for the Democrats, it's crippling them, but they're stuck with it now, so they will continue to impale themselves on that petard. Only Nixon Can Go To China; Trump can actually get away with gun grabbing, because he's the lesser of two gun grabbing evils by far. The Dems new strategy seems to be abandon the Rust Belt and focus on the Sun Belt, but the far left nonsense doesn't play well in Arizona, Florida, Texas or Georgia, so they are going about it in a very idiotic way. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The Dems new strategy seems to be abandon the Rust Belt and focus on the Sun Belt, but the far left nonsense doesn't play well in Arizona, Texas or Florida, so they are going about it in a very idiotic way. They don't have a plan, they don't have a leader, they are divided against themselves Their only common ground is Trump Derangement Syndrome and that's not getting them anywhere. The Dems are just flailing, they are thrashing about looking for an equation which allows the TransCommies to take the country by storm, and they're obviously delusional. They just never recovered from getting beat by Trump, they are still stunned into disarray by it, four years later. Edited September 4, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: They don't have a plan, they don't have a leader, they are divided against themselves Their only common ground is Trump Derangement Syndrome and that's not getting them anywhere. The Dems are just flailing, they are thrashing about looking for an equation which allows the TransCommies to take the country by storm, and they're obviously delusional. They just never recovered from getting beat by Trump, they are still stunned into disarray by it, four years later. They do have a plan, it's just the same plan that lost in 2016, and they are doubling down on the derp. They are even more divided now than in 2016 though. They are engaging in wishful thinking like Trump is so unpopular that they can flip states that have voted Red for a very long time, just because the demographics are moving in their direction in those states even though they are nowhere near a tipping point. Of course Trump isn't that unpopular, he just is among Dems, and they are projecting the views of TDS Dems on swing voters in Republican leaning states and swing states, due to living in echo chamber. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They do have a plan, it's just the same plan that lost in 2016, and they are doubling down on the derp. That derp being that you don't need a plan, you simply have to dismiss Trump as being unsuitable, and then everybody flips to the Democrats Double down indeed, everything about the screeching left that got Trump elected in the first place actually increased not decreased. So they never got the memo, they just drank their own Russia Collusion bathwater. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: That derp being that you don't need a plan, you simply have to dismiss Trump as being unsuitable, and then everybody flips to the Democrats Double down indeed, everything about the screeching left that got Trump elected in the first place actually increased not decreased. So they never got the memo, they just drank their own Russia Collusion bathwater. They simply blame Hillary Clinton, they think if they just run someone else with the same strategy, that will boost turnout in key swing states that were close last election and give them back the White House. Hell even some dolts on the right buy into that nonsense, thinking that Hillary was just uniquely unpopular and that if they run Biden they got this. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: They simply blame Hillary Clinton, they think if they just run someone else with the same strategy, that will boost turnout in key swing states and give them back the White House. Hell even some dolts on the right buy into that nonsense. Hillary didn't lose the election, people just ain't into the whole urban leftist milieu outside of the urban left. The left simply self selected into walled off cantonments which are deep but not wide. Deep but not wide is what the electoral college is specifically designed to stop from ruling over the country from the cities, feature not a bug. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Hillary didn't lose the election, people just ain't into the whole urban leftist milieu outside of the urban left. The left simply self selected into walled off cantonments which are deep but not wide. Deep but not wide is what the electoral college is specifically designed to stop from ruling over the country from the cities, feature not a bug. Exactly. Hillary Clinton lost is the myth that they buy into, they figure that if they run someone even farther to the left than her, they'll be popular enough to unseat Trump because his approval rating is in the early-mid 40's. The righties who buy into this myth think that if they just run someone with less political baggage, Trump could be in trouble. What they don't realize is Hillary Clinton was popular before she ran in 2016, she had like 66% approval rating when she was Obama's Secretary of State. Trump and Bernie just tore her down and made her "uniquely unpopular" by triggering her into pandering to the left too much, and Trump and the far left Dem 2020 field can easily do that to whoever the Dems pick in 2020 as well. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Exactly. The Democrats now are exactly what the Founders designed the electoral college to stop. The structure of the republic itself is blocking the Democrats, and there's no sign they can break out. They are in a trap like the Republicans were in against the New Dealers; one that lasts for decades. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The Democrats now are exactly what the Founders designed the electoral college to stop. The structure of the republic itself is blocking the Democrats, and there's no sign they can break out. They are in a trap like the Republicans were in against the New Dealers; one that lasts for decades. Just look at how far to the left TDS has dragged Biden and Warren, even their more moderate for Democrat's candidates these days are falling over themselves to become completely unelectable by pandering to the woke left. It's only going to become a bigger problem once Trump starts laying into them and focuses fire on whoever is nominated. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Just look at how far to the left TDS has dragged Biden and Warren, even their more moderate for Democrat's candidates these days are falling over themselves to become completely unelectable by pandering to the woke left. It's only going to become a bigger problem Trump starts laying into them after the nomination as well. Meanwhile, with Blue Team sidelined in their cantonments, Red Team is taking control from the suburbs, exurbs and countryside. The Governor's, the Judiciary, the Senate and the White House. The House is the weakest card of them all, and the Democrats could lose that too. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 Biden called for banning all magazines that hold multiple bullets, one round mags only lulz. When you go further than even Canadian gun control, that's seriously jumping the shark. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Biden called for banning all magazines that hold multiple bullets, one round mags only lulz. When you go further than even Canadian gun control, that's seriously jumping the shark. If he could pull that off, I would consider that one of the greatest political accomplishments of the past 20 years. It won’t happen. Too many gun crazy nutbars who think it’s normal for a civilian to keep an arsenal capable of rapid mass murder. Sad. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: If he could pull that off, I would consider that one of the greatest political accomplishments of the past 20 years. It won’t happen. Too many gun crazy nutbars who think it’s normal for a civilian to keep an arsenal capable of rapid mass murder. Sad. It would incite a civil war, if it ever came to pass. America would not stand for that. Also the Supreme Court would strike that shit down so fast it would make your head spin. Edited September 4, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: It would incite a civil war, if it ever came to pass. America would not stand for that. Also the Supreme Court would strike that shit down so fast it would make your head spin. As I said, sad. The Second Amendment may be the US’s greatest downside and may undo the country in the end if social conditions deteriorate. Then it will become very clear that high powered gun ownership was always a risk the public couldn’t afford without great loss of innocent life. The backlash will be a Waco-style ATF crackdown on an unprecedented scale, and the rogue militias won’t no what hit them. Better to reel the guns in gradually. In the end that’s for Americans to decide. Literally the rest of the world shakes their head at the weird zombie 2nd Amendment US death cult. Edited September 4, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: As I said, sad. The Second Amendment may be the US’s greatest downside and may undo the country in the end if social conditions deteriorate. Then it will become very clear that high powered gun ownership was always a risk the public couldn’t afford without great loss of innocent life. The backlash will be a Waco-style ATF crackdown on an unprecedented scale, and the rogue militias won’t no what hit them. Better to reel the guns in gradually. In the end that’s for Americans to decide. Literally the rest of the world shakes their head at the weird zombie 2nd Amendment US death cult. Who cares what freedom haters think? 2A FTW Quote
Zeitgeist Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Who cares what freedom haters think? 2A FTW Easy there Koresh. Quote
Boges Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Reagan fired lots of people, and there is no evidence Trump has dementia. It only looks like Trump has dementia, to people who are already under the impression he has dementia, but it's all confirmation bias. If you don't think Trump has dementia, or aren't sure and looking at it objectively, there is nothing to see, only the wishful thinkers who want Trump to have dementia are claiming he has it, no one else. Trump objectively says things that are incorrect and doubles down on them. Either he's a moron or he's purposely trying to see how much BS his 40% will consume before rejecting him. Quote
Boges Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Dougie93 said: Meanwhile, with Blue Team sidelined in their cantonments, Red Team is taking control from the suburbs, exurbs and countryside. The Governor's, the Judiciary, the Senate and the White House. The House is the weakest card of them all, and the Democrats could lose that too. Can you cite anything that would indicate that the Red Team is taking control of the Suburbs? Or is that just another opinion you don't want to have to defend? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Boges said: Trump objectively says things that are incorrect and doubles down on them. Either he's a moron or he's purposely trying to see how much BS his 40% will consume before rejecting him. Or maybe saying incorrect things doesn't hurt him the way you think it does, and it actually helps him a lot of the time. Ever think of that? Quote
Boges Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Or maybe saying incorrect things doesn't hurt him the way you think it does, and it actually helps him a lot of the time. Ever think of that? Which is an indication that his base are ignorant fools that will accept any tripe that they're fed. I'm curious how a fan of Trump would reconcile his orders to break the law to get the wall built and then just pardon anyone who does that. Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Boges said: Can you cite anything that would indicate that the Red Team is taking control of the Suburbs? Or is that just another opinion you don't want to have to defend? Defend from whom? Nobody is attacking me at the threshold of Brandenburg v Ohio, others are free to say as they please, it's no skin off my teeth. Quote
Boges Posted September 4, 2019 Report Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Defend from whom? Nobody is attacking me at the threshold of Brandenburg v Ohio, others are free to say as they please, it's no skin off my teeth. Just wondering. Because it seems the prevailing opinion is that suburbs are going to be a problem for Trump. https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/457176-the-memo-suburbs-spell-trouble-for-trump Quote That finding comports with other surveys that show Trump performing poorly with some of the key voting blocs that populate the nation’s suburbs, notably white women and white college graduates. Those dynamics make Trump’s path to reelection a steep one, experts say. “We are a long way off from November 2020, but my general sense is that it is going to be very tough for him to reverse the Democratic trends in the suburbs,” said Terry Madonna, a professor of public affairs and a polling expert at Franklin & Marshall College in the electorally crucial state of Pennsylvania. Trump won the Keystone State by about 44,000 votes in 2016 — less than 1 percentage point. He rolled up similarly narrow margins of victory in Michigan and Wisconsin, two other states that had been thought to form a reliably Democratic “blue wall.” The margins were so narrow that any shift in the suburbs could swing those states back into the Democratic column, even if Trump were to retain the enthusiasm of his base. Edited September 4, 2019 by Boges Quote
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