-1=e^ipi Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Yes, in the upside-down progressive land known as Sweden, gay pride parades are now 'expressions of pure racism' by 'xenophobic far-right nationalists'. I wonder how long before Canada and other Western countries adopt this view. http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/21/sweden-democrats-plan-gay-pride-parade-through-muslim-areas-leftists-and-gay-rights-groups-decry-the-parade-as-racist/ I suggest you read the article. I'll just give a few parts of it here: "On July 29, a gay pride parade is scheduled in Sweden. But, you see, this is no ordinary gay pride parade. The parade is scheduled to go through Tensta and Husby – two areas where Muslim immigrants are more than 75% of the population." "The Facebook page is absolutely filled with angry comments from leftists, attacking the “xenophobic right-wing nationalists” for organizing a gay pride parade through Muslim areas. Since Islam holds that gays should be executed, something like this is obviously an attack on Muslims and should therefore be outlawed. At least, that’s what Swedish leftists – and, indeed, Swedish gays – are saying. Leftists are organizing a counter-demonstration against this gay pride parade." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 A bit related, but apparently pride events are now banning drag queens because apparently drag queens can be offensive to trans people. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/20/pride-event-bans-drag-queens-in-case-they-are-offensive/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) The obsession with fairness, and equality are unrealistic. Because good and evil are not universal forces in a binary way. They are relative to ourselves. Our whole moral system is based on a logical fallacy. That good and evil exist as a absolute force. This is what will lead us to these strange situation. Some have declared that Islam is incompatible with western civilization because of this. The problem lies in a illogical flaw in our moral legal system. Edited July 27, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The obsession with fairness, and equality are unrealistic. Because good and evil are not universal forces in a binary way. They are relative to ourselves. Our whole moral system is based on a logical fallacy. That good and evil exist as a absolute force. This is what will lead us to these strange situation. Some have declared that Islam is incompatible with western civilization because of this. The problem lies in a illogical flaw in our moral legal system. Interesting. Explain further. Especially the last sentence. What is the "illogical flaw"? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Live and let live. Quote Rapists, pedophiles, and nazis post online too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Live and let live. Wouldn't say that if a Conservative Christian person protested a Gay Pride Parade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Interesting. Explain further. Especially the last sentence. What is the "illogical flaw"?. Our whole Juridical & moral system is based on the idea of ultimate good and ultimate evil as in God/Devil. Like its two absolute force of nature. We are looking at good and evil as if it were binary and universal, when it's actually very relative to many different situations and people. This is what's causing all the illogical running around with our heads cut off, that this thread talks about. Because there is no such thing as ultimate good or ultimate evil, in this universe. Good and bad only exist relatively to something. Something may be good for me, and evil for someone else. Because we live in our own minds, it's easy to see good and evil as a binary thing, because good and evil is binary in our own mind, as its relative to ourselves. But it isn't binary to the universe. And that's the flaw that makes us think illogically. Because we can't see the bigger picture. We only see it as good for me or bad for me. Or good for us/bad for us. We're trying to make sense of the universe while staring straight at our naval like its the ultimate source of what is right and what is wrong. Try to ponder. What if we were telepathic with all living things, and how that, would change our view of the universe. Edited July 27, 2015 by Freddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I guess I must be one of these evil 'xenophobic right-wing nationalists' since I support gay rights and think gay people shouldn't be killed for being gay. I also support freedom of speech and don't think that apostates should be killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Seems pretty legit. A group of conservatives plan a route for a gay parade to go through an area that is 75% Muslim. No passive-aggression here. No siree. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 A group of conservatives I don't think that the Swedish democrats can be accurately described as conservatives. Classical liberal is far closer. No passive-aggression here. Couldn't any gay pride parade be considered passive-aggressive to some group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I don't think that the Swedish democrats can be accurately described as conservatives. Classical liberal is far closer. blazingcatfur! Oh my, nice source! Classical liberal??? Oh really! it's your source that states: "This gay pride parade was created by Jan Sjunnesson, former editor-in-chief for the Samtiden newspaper in Sweden, which is owned by the nationalist Sweden Democrats party (for our Canadian readers, think of the Sweden Democrats as being kind of like the Conservatives which means that they’re considered “extreme far-right” in Sweden)." wiki states: "The Sweden Democrats or Swedish Democrats (Swedish: Sverigedemokraterna, SD) are a far-right, right-wing populist, and anti-immigration political party in Sweden that was founded in 1988. The party describes itself as social conservative with a nationalist foundation." BBC - Profile: Far-right Sweden Democrats what's this... oh my! Stockholm Pride bars Sweden Democrats ... now that kinda messes with your OP, hey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Wouldn't say that if a Conservative Christian person protested a Gay Pride Parade. Sure I would. Freedom of speech applies. (Hate speech, not so much. ) And I'm free to call them idiots too. . Quote Rapists, pedophiles, and nazis post online too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I guess I must be one of these evil 'xenophobic right-wing nationalists' since I support gay rights and think gay people shouldn't be killed for being gay. I also support freedom of speech and don't think that apostates should be killed. Nah, you're just super gullible, just like the leftists protesting this stunt. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) it's your source that states: "This gay pride parade was created by Jan Sjunnesson, former editor-in-chief for the Samtiden newspaper in Sweden, which is owned by the nationalist Sweden Democrats party (for our Canadian readers, think of the Sweden Democrats as being kind of like the Conservatives which means that they’re considered “extreme far-right” in Sweden)." Do you not see the quotation marks? They are considered 'extreme far-right'. That doesn't mean they are 'extreme far-right'. wiki states: "The Sweden Democrats or Swedish Democrats (Swedish: Sverigedemokraterna, SD) are a far-right, right-wing populist, and anti-immigration political party in Sweden that was founded in 1988. The party describes itself as social conservative with a nationalist foundation." Yes, they were conservative in 1988. That was 27 years ago. I'm not sure if the conservative label accurate describes them today though. BBC - Profile: Far-right Sweden Democrats Using BBC to determine what is 'far-right' or not. You amuse me Waldo. Stockholm Pride bars Sweden Democrats Yes, many people in Sweden take the view that either you are a hardcore socialist, or you are a nazi. Edited July 28, 2015 by -1=e^ipi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Anyway, I guess Richard Dawkins must also be a far-right nationalist xenophobe racist as well. http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/25/richard-dawkins-supports-pride-jarva-calls-the-swedish-left-pathetic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) Anyway, I guess Richard Dawkins must also be a far-right nationalist xenophobe racist as well. http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/25/richard-dawkins-supports-pride-jarva-calls-the-swedish-left-pathetic/ All part of the weird overlap of the atheist/GamorGator/gynophobe/racist/anime enthusiast communities. Edited July 28, 2015 by Black Dog Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 The far-right seems to be willing to defend groups that they recently hated, in order to propagate hate against newer groups... as evidenced on here by far-right posters ostensibly befriending Israel. It's not a principled reaction to game your scape-goating, but there you are... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 "An enemy of my enemy must be my friend" except where you do not know who are the good guys or bad guys. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 All part of the weird overlap of the atheist/GamorGator/gynophobe/racist/anime enthusiast communities. Wait, how does anime fit into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Seems pretty legit. A group of conservatives plan a route for a gay parade to go through an area that is 75% Muslim. No passive-aggression here. No siree. Riiight, and if this 'conservative' group organized the gay pride parade and deliberately kept it away from areas where there were religious Christians you'd be bemoaning the fact they were 'hiding' the gay pride parade away so as to not offend those vile Christians. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Riiight, and if this 'conservative' group organized the gay pride parade and deliberately kept it away from areas where there were religious Christians you'd be bemoaning the fact they were 'hiding' the gay pride parade away so as to not offend those vile Christians.Once you accommodate one , you have to accommodate all. Soon your life is planed around accommodating everything. Can we start accommodating me for the fact I no longer want to accommodate anyone? Edited July 29, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Riiight, and if this 'conservative' group organized the gay pride parade and deliberately kept it away from areas where there were religious Christians you'd be bemoaning the fact they were 'hiding' the gay pride parade away so as to not offend those vile Christians. Social conservatives in the west are typically Christian and not Muslim so yes, it would stand that their motives would be different if they avoided a Christian neighbourhood vs. routing through a Muslim neighbourhood. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Social conservatives in the west are typically Christian and not Muslim so yes, it would stand that their motives would be different if they avoided a Christian neighbourhood vs. routing through a Muslim neighbourhood. That doesn't follow. Maybe some people just support gay rights and don't care who is offended by that, be they Christian, Muslim or Pastafarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 7/26/2015 at 11:59 PM, -1=e^ipi said: Yes, in the upside-down progressive land known as Sweden, gay pride parades are now 'expressions of pure racism' by 'xenophobic far-right nationalists'. I wonder how long before Canada and other Western countries adopt this view. http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/21/sweden-democrats-plan-gay-pride-parade-through-muslim-areas-leftists-and-gay-rights-groups-decry-the-parade-as-racist/ I suggest you read the article. I'll just give a few parts of it here: "On July 29, a gay pride parade is scheduled in Sweden. But, you see, this is no ordinary gay pride parade. The parade is scheduled to go through Tensta and Husby – two areas where Muslim immigrants are more than 75% of the population." "The Facebook page is absolutely filled with angry comments from leftists, attacking the “xenophobic right-wing nationalists” for organizing a gay pride parade through Muslim areas. Since Islam holds that gays should be executed, something like this is obviously an attack on Muslims and should therefore be outlawed. At least, that’s what Swedish leftists – and, indeed, Swedish gays – are saying. Leftists are organizing a counter-demonstration against this gay pride parade." I'm a little surprised the Muslims are rated a bit higher on the scale of victimhood than the Alphebet Soup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 ROFLMAO!!! This whole situation is friggin' priceless. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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