sharkman

Seriously, you called me baby. Who does that? Should I start calling you honey?

The same people and power behind the machinations that led to Biden stepping down are not doing it for Kamala. You can be sure of that, that’s just another way to lose.

Unable to think clearly where Trump is concerned, TDS. You are moving the goalposts and throwing in a straw man at the same time. Come back when you can debate with some integrity…

Biden stepping aside was obvious, it was really strange to see die hard liberals in this forum unable to see this. Then when the debate fiasco happened, and there was STILL support for him on this forum? Those are the folks that are brainwashed. And recently we heard that 1/3 of Dems(or whatever the specific Dem group was) think the assassination attempt was staged. And they think the right has crazies. Anyway, this quote that Kamala repeated dozens of times has new meaning: “What can be, unburdened by what has been”. Buh bye Biden.

Perhaps you should revisit the 2016 election under Obama’s administration. Apparently that election was a mess as well. Russian hackers, Rioting and looting, Hilary declaring that Trump was an illegitimate president. I even remember newscasters fearfully declaring that they didn’t know what they would tell their children. Or maybe your whole premise is off base.

We are getting a lot of great ideas on VP pic for Kamala, no doubt. But if she went with Hunter Biden, they wouldn’t even have to change the campaign signs that have already been printed up. Biden/Harris would work just fine with those democrat fans that can’t break free of their Biden dependency. And Hunter’s platform could include the slogan, “I’ll get drugs off the streets!”, and not even be lying! 😝

Hey, did Biden have a platform in ‘20? I mean besides Trump is evil. Trump doesn’t need one for 2024 if you ask me. Sleepy Joe has been such a disaster that Trump could literally do the whole campaign from his basement and win. The only platform he needs is, do you really want 4 more years of dementia? It’s going to be a landslide, which is why Joe is getting replaced. PBS can pound sand since they’ve given us 4 years of lies and propaganda about Joe and his administration.

Well, Biden is apparently putting up a fight on his way out the door. It’s the beginnings of a civil war in the Democratic party, and I really hope Joe stays in for the DNC in August. No doubt he’s calling in favours, blackmailing and bribing for all he’s worth. But the power base of the party such as the Obamas, Hilary, and the old guard, can see the writing on the wall. After that debate Joe is unelectable and getting worse. But if he still refuses to go by mid August, the Democratic National Convention could be a disaster. Fingers crossed!

No, no, get this. Hunter. Wouldn’t that be hilarious? She probably owes him a favour. Nudge nudge, wink wink.

My argument goes back a lot further than whatever propaganda about Putin and his influence is out there. The Reagan era is when I became somewhat educated and aware of the US and its government. Now that I think about it, i probably learned more in secondary school. The curriculum was not typical Canadian fare. A Republic is distinct, and worth noting.

How can you believe that the US is a democracy? It’s not. Look it up. Enjoy the next 5 months.

I said that because you are so brainwashed by your media that you actually believe the nonsense you wrote. Trump is not a threat to democracy or you, he’s a threat to the Democrats. Most of the media support the Dems and the left in general, hence your badly misinformed views. The next 5 months are going to be crazy. The less media you consume, the better off you will be. BTW, the US has never been a democracy, it’s even better than that.

Ok, so to provide some balance, why don’t you name some negatives for a second Trump administration.

I really thought Biden would have been gone by now, forced into retirement by whatever ails him. But really, he never should have been allowed to put his hat in the ring 4 years ago. Even worse, the legacy media has been covering for him ever since, every slip up. Even now, during the recent Lester Holt interview, Biden referred to the Secret Service Director as a he. Lester gently covered for him. It was pathetic. The media has become the propaganda arm of whomever is in favour of WEF, WHO, etc., and so they dearly wish that Trump hadn’t turned his head at the last second. It’s going to be a long 8 years for them as Vance wins in ‘28. And Harris? She’s a place holder, probably for big Michelle or Newsom. It doesn’t matter who they put in there, this election will be one for the ages.

I didn’t think much of the VP pick, but I didn’t know much about Vance. But the more I hear, the more I’m impressed. And to realize that he didn’t even like Trump in 2016, but grew to support him? Being willing to change one’s mind when new facts come to light, that’s a rare thing in politics these days. He grew up in a single parent family, and his mom battled addiction his whole childhood. Coming from humble beginnings, that can also be a great asset in politics.

Robosmith, I don’t suppose you’ve seen the discussion on CNN about Joe dropping out?

You’re fired.

Okay so I guess Trump isn’t going to prison until at least September, since his sentencing date got moved. And now that SCOTUS has ruled that, duh, presidents have immunity for official duties, that Jack Smith case is going to largely fail. So all of the law fare against Trump hasn’t worked, has it? The bird flu pandemic seems to be rolling ahead on schedule, but how to slow down Trump, now that the debate exposed Biden’s brain. I wonder what they will come up with, those crooks.

Biden is the gift that just keeps giving. Trump’s election win in November will be epic and one for the ages. And my guess is that after this win, crimes and plots that have been secret will be uncovered.

Well, here’s what we know at this point. There was a counter sniper team on the roof of the building behind the stage. This two man Swat team, a Pennsylvania State or city force, watched Crooks as he crawled across the other building roof and into position. They never fired on him as he settled into position and took aim. Their public statement is that their Swat rules of engagement are to never fire until fired upon. But I’m pretty sure they would have reported the appearance of a sniper to their superiors. The question is, what did their superiors do with this info? If they didn’t pass it along to the Secret Service, then they are guilty of the murder of the innocent bystander. If they did report it, but the Secret Service didn’t act on it by immediately removing Trump, then the Secret Service are guilty of all kinds of negligence at the least. Its clear that Trump was not moved prior to the shooting. So either the Swat team, or their superiors, or the Secret Service were at fault for that. Because Maga crowd goers started reporting a guy crawling across the roof a full 20 minutes before the shooting started. The question is not what Crooks’ motives were, but the State or city Swat member motives(or their superiors) for not reporting a clear and present threat to the Secret Service. I just can’t see the Secret Service leaving Trump in harm’s way if they were told of a nearby sniper. But I could be wrong about that.

You better get an emotional support animal, because Musk has upped his contribution. He now is going to give 45 million per month until the election. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/15/elon-musk-plans-to-give-45-million-a-month-to-pro-trump-super-pac-wsj-reports.html

For me, this is the crux of this event. I don’t quite know why I feel this way, but I do. Most of the interactions between the police and the crowd members that tried to warn them about the man with a gun, they could be explained away. The cops couldn’t see him. Or they looked and saw nothing. Or they assessed the person warning them and decided he/she was a crank. Or a hundred other explanations on why the warnings were not heeded. But when the counter sniper team themselves saw the sniper crawling into position. This was a clear and present danger. They either reported it or they didn’t. There is no other option. If they didn’t report it, then they are complicit in the crime. Then, their superiors either passed the threat along to the Secret Service or they didn’t. There is no other option. If they didn’t pass it along, then they are complicit in the crime. Then, the Secret Service either decided to act on the warning, or they didn’t get the warning. I don’t think they would leave Trump in harm’s way had they been warned that there was a sniper on the roof. Or they too would have been complicit in the crime. What am I missing?

I think you are trying to rationalize what happened. It’s a natural response, but it may not be helpful at this point, trying almost to justify what happened. Trump should have been removed as soon as the counter sniper team first saw the threat, at least 2 minutes before shots rang out.

As well, So they would not shoot first, I've heard that as well. My issue is this: when Crooks was spotted crawling into position, and reported by crowd members to the police, and obviously seen by the counter sniper team, why was Trump not immediately taken off stage, moved to safety? That does not make any sense.

Can someone please fact check me on this? Because last night apparently a representative for the Secret Service said that adjoining properties to the Trump venue tasked by the local police. https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/secret-service-blames-local-police-says-it-was-tasked-with-securing-properties-surrounding-trumps-pa-rally/ “Instead, securing and patrolling the factory grounds of AGR International Inc. — located about 130 yards from the stage where Trump was speaking Saturday — was the responsibility of local Pennsylvania police, Secret Service representative Anthony Gugliemi said, according to the New York Times.” I have seen a video that shows the police swat sniper team on a roof watching the young Thomas Crooks as he crawls into place and then fires at Trump. They flinch as the bullets start flying, but do not shoot until at least 5 bullets have been fired. Ill try to find that video.