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It’s funny, I think that people are good…but then some people say and do things that upend that notion. You’re the guy who takes the job at the political prisoner camp and can’t understand why people are upset with you when the regime that gave you the job is turfed. I can see you wearing the fancy commissar coat and snitching on neighbors in Stalin’s Soviet Union.

Little Zeitgeist and his petulant downvotes. NONONO I DONT LIKE YOU! DOWNVOTE! ?

Prager's right. Leftism is the diseased donkey.

A friend sent me the following and it's an excellent explanation of why the left/socialism does, and continuously hasn't, worked.

There was no protest the other day as was so predicted by the supporters.. There were a few diehards that came out to celebrate a non event. Point was to show those that do not live in Ottawa that there was an attempt to fete the anniversary and no one really showed up. Proving how much (little actually) even the supporters care anymore. You cannot even back up your event. The supporters even said they would move the event to Winnipeg and no one showed up there at all LOL So, Suck it up sweeties, ya had your 15 minutes of fame and now you can go back to your oh so ordinary simpleton lives and be someone you ain't on the forums LOL

Of course you do, but that's the same thing as the election being stolen. In March of 2020 nobody knew much of anything about COVID-19 They could barely even test for it. This article doesn't support the above claim whatsoever. We sold our cottage because the CAW resort built a wind turbine a km away from me. I know they're annoying, and why. The whole town hated it, but it wasn't making anyone sick. He has, but as on many issues he's not particularly consistent or coherent. Well that couldn't be more obvious, but then nobody is going to really listen to you if so many of the other ideas you're promoting aren't grounded in reality. I can accept that an irrelevantly small amount of real fraud happened, and that people witnessed it, but this happens every election. What Donald Trump talks about is absolute crap and without evidence. I've already listed all of the subsequent facts that support the 2020 election (like Donald Trump's sustained and abysmal approval rating, and how his candidates got curb-stomped in the mid-terms). You could claim the same logic about me if I was telling you, "HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP IS A WITCH HUNT AND FAKE NEWS FROM ALL OF THE NASTY PEOPLE OUT THERE - VERY BAD PEOPLE - THE WORST REALLY - ITS TRUE." Trump's not my focus anymore. It's the people still promoting all of his nonsense.

You’re the perfect communist citizen.

You’ve been raised to depend on handouts and believe that you’re useless and need to be taken care of. That’s obvious. The really sad part though is that the parties that you think stand up for the little guy are doing the opposite now. They’re using phoney progressive rhetoric and the distraction of insane, unethical, and unscientific identity politics to cement themselves into power. You’ll always vote for them because they seem to offer you more freebies. The price you pay is the inability to think and do for yourself. In the end it’s your problem though, and your histrionics tell me that the leopard isn’t changing its spots in this lifetime.

I agree with your overall assessment. I would have said "far left". But maybe it's not that far anymore. Once upon a time there was a moderate left, and a moderate right. We knew about extremists, but they were put in a different category, essentially fringe element, considered belonging to neither left nor right. We didn't pay attention to them back then, we had important work to do. I cannot explain how these extremists have become increasingly normalized. It may require a separate thesis. Perhaps it follows the same pattern as Spengler wrote in Twilight of the West. Over time a kind of decay sets in. When good men stop resisting, bad men win.

Sometimes, I’m glad I’m the age I am. Our “culture” is doomed.

On the debt-ceiling crisis, take it from moderate Republicans: Be afraid, be very afraid After THREE RISES under Trump, MAGA Republicans suddenly discover fiscal restraint and threaten to use the crisis to leverage concessions. Anyone else want them to burn the house down? ?

This presentation by Dennis Prager, one of America's most popular conservative speakers, tells how leftism is very destructive and destroying western civilization. He explains why conservatives in general are wrongly focused on opposing individuals rather than the real foe, which is leftism. I will add a few comments to this O.P. because some have complained the O.P. lacked substance. Prager pointed out a number of things. He mentioned the Pope. He has a lot of respect for Catholics, but said the Pope is not a Catholic. The Pope came from South America and is more of a leftist. There are a lot of leftists in South America. That's why they have struggled with Communist revolutionaries and have had a lot of trouble in places like El Salvador, Venezuela, and other places. This could explain why latin America has struggled with poverty. It is not rich even though it has many natural resources. He says latin America is a screwed up system because of leftism. He says the Protestant church is failing because of leftism. He said an American Presbyterian denomination singled out Israel for condemnation. The world is full of evil, yet they single out Israel. Makes no sense. But that is what leftism does. I know for a fact leftism has crept into many denominations. The Jesuits could be behind some of this as well. After all, the Pope is a Jesuit and a leftist. He points out liberal Christians have also caved in to the leftists and go along with it. He also talks about how he grew up as an Orthodox Jew. He even wrote books about it. But he left the Orthodox part because he says they have abandoned some basic principles. They don't stand up against leftism even though it is ruining civilization. He says the Orthodox don't stand up to same-sex marriage. They don't fight the fight. He says he is very tolerant of gays and says they are part of his life and family. He makes it clear he is opposed to redefining marriage. He says you have to have compassion in the macro and standard in the micro. In other words you can be compassionate while standing up for certain principles. Leftism confuses this and accuses anyone who has any kind of principles that defend the historic and biblical family structure of being bigots or racist and lacking compassion. That is one of the problems in society today. There is no distinction in leftism.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants Why can trans folk just whip their twig and berries out in front of women and little girls and the women just have to accept it? Disgusting

Women's privacy be damned. Sexist bigots like the crakho

Sooooo, does he just prescribe sitting on your butts and hoping we'll go away? How long until you people finally take up arms against us - what part of destroy you don't you understand?

crackwhore thinks women are deranged cultists just like he/she/it is.

Another consequence of leftism is the Roxham Road crossing of illegal migrants, many of whom come from latin America. The are given free medical care and put up in hotels at government expense. "The Immigration Department has paid $93,886,222 for “long leases” with 30 hotels in Niagara Falls, Montreal, and communities close to the Quebec border, according to a Globe and Mail access-to-information request. (This makes the $400,000 for the Canadian delegation to the Queen's funeral look like peanuts, and the $6000 per night for a room for the unidentified delegate pocket change.) The kicker? Most of these rooms sat unoccupied. According to Quebec Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus, the Hotel St-Bernard in Lacolle, seven minutes from the Roxham Road border crossing, is often empty." Trudeau loves the Roxham Road crossing because it brings in a steady supply of lefty votes for the liberals. Most are from latin America which is largely leftist. Tasha Kheiriddin: Trudeau can't be trusted to take Roxham Road seriously (msn.com)

Unfortunately Tory is already pretty left of centre. He’s another politician who won’t say no unless it’s uncontroversial.

Exspert (syringe in the hand): I think it'll be good for you! I think I know it! Let's do it, right here! Democracy Not so fast, let's see your evidence. Does it make sense? Here, here and here will you explain it please? Canada: Yeah go for it! Yay! ... ... ... wait ... maybe ... oops! ... (some decades on) appointed a commission of inquiry with outrageous pay out of your pocket. What?

Whoopity-do. The central thought was apparent from the video link, so you just repeated it. Okay, but my original response came before any of that. ? Sure, and it was all dumb. The left hates God and hates America. ? All you did was confirm what we already knew - hysterics and hyperbole.

And people are free to express their disdain for opinions that are put forth. Stop trying to silence people you disagree with.

Well, they do charge the patient for services not paid for by the government. (some injections, some services, records, TB tests, PAP tests, prostate blood test, other things not covered by provincial plans) https://mcithedoctorsoffice.ca/policies/uninsured-services-pricing/

Isn't it also known that most women don't want swinging dcks in their locker rooms but that pervert degenerate psychopaths don't really give a sht what women want?

You have no clue do you. Then Senator Biden definitely worked to sell the war. https://inthesetimes.com/features/joe-biden-iraq-war-vote-democratic-primary-2020.html Faulty intelligence came from Israel and elsewhere. One of the reasons we went to war was the Israel lobby. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby

People think there are 2 groups of doctors. Ones that work in hospitals and only for the government and others that are "private". Clearly, they did not think that through. There are doctors that sometimes work in their office and give provincial services in that office and other times charge for services rendered in that office. Then they go to hospitals ad do procedures in the hospitals and then they also go to clinics and perform procedures there. They are the same doctor in every case. So, "private" really means nothing, it already is what it is.

Correct. I am not sure what people think a doctors job or service is. He?she are private workers with hospital privileges. They can help patients within the provincial system or outside of it at any time. My friend needed hip replacement but the wait list was so long there was no help in sight so he got it replaced "privately". Those same doctors worked within the provincial system too. Some days they did operations in the hospital under all the rules therein and on other days they did it within a clinic under those rules. Are they double dipping?? For sure and have been for as long as I can remember. Oh and, m any of those nurses also work in hospitals as well as in clinics. So, in Ontario, all that is being done is recognizing private clinics and sending work their way with provincial approval.

Theory? The practice is that people pay their taxes. Myata, the evidence that Canada (and the US) are civilised societies is that millions of people pay their taxes. ==== In dysfunctional societies such as Lebanon, Haiti, Somalia or even Greece, people simply don't pay taxes. In Sweden, Canada, Japan and Vermont, we pay taxes. True, no individual Canadian happily pays any tax - but we pay. IMHO, your complex list is interesting but the ultimate measure of a "democracy" is whether people pay their taxes. In Canada and Australia, people do. In Nigeria and Vietnam, they don't.

Stats? Random link: https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/ Or wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita All countries in the top 10 have small population (under 10 million or so). ==== Canada is successful because it is a federal State. It has two official federal languages but no official federal cultural. It is a multicultural State. In Canada, provinces have sole jurisdiction over education. I wish that this were more clear about health and many other issues too. I would prefer a sovereign Quebec within a Federal Republic of Canada - sorta like Brexit. Or, Norway's arrangement with the EU.

Donald Trump and Ann Coulter are correct to have noticed how many foreigners are arriving in America. Coulter and Trump notice less how many foreigners are now speaking American abroad. The current professional urban progressives in America (and older leftists in Europe) are about to stop this potential for world change.

Work hard show interest and maybe even you can amount to something one day too.

Because your posts are a waste of time. When you're posting a thread every day or two on more or less the same topic, it's not worth reading it anymore. Your post, and your video, amounts to, "Right Wing Conservative Hates Left Wing Liberalism". Fantastic. My meme was appropriately thoughtful as a response, matching your mental effort in kind.

There is no excusing it, what we've done to ourselves. But it happened in all countries all over the world, and so it now depends on how we can recover, what we need to do to prevent that from happening again. When they enacted emergency powers they empowered themselves. Democracy at that point was put aside. We need new laws to protect us from the bastardized leadership class in this country. For example, we allowed them to declare mass quarantines and shutdowns, without end. I have a problem with that. Government inertia and stupidity being two things you can depend on, in this life.

Nope. Your totalitarian wannabe crowd go down in history as the coward sycophants of government overreach. The Convoy was an important international movement of resistance against very real threats to our democratic freedoms. Trudeau only relented because he had no choice. There was too much concern among the sizeable portion of the country that supported the protest against mandates. The Senate saw this and were opposing the emergency measures, so Trudeau removed them. The next day, “Look over here, invasion of Ukraine!”

Unfortunately the radical left are running our institutions now. I’ve spent hours already this week at work being lectured about white privilege. There’s no sense of context or perspective. Rather than saying that our society has grown more diverse and our values are changing, there’s an attempt to interpret events in the distant past as though we’ve always lived in 2023. The main reason that 50 years ago most of our books and films had white themes and characters in Canada wasn’t a white supremacist plot. It was because the vast majority of society was white and the people created the culture in their image. We became more aware of how our natural tendency to be around people who look and sound like us hurt minorities as the racialized population grew and we heard more stories. It’s also true that the main reason Indigenous were educated in residential schools was because providing free public education was seen as a social good and only the settlers were providing it. It’s only through today’s lens that we better understand the impact on the cultures and families. The largest groups tend to dominate the narratives, which is the main reason we have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to protect the rights of minorities and individuals. Unfortunately progressivism, while generally good, tends to devour itself because when it takes on revolutionary fervour, one can never be progressive enough and everyone must go to the guillotine. That was the lesson of the French Revolution. Most countries aren’t in a perpetual state of apology, shame, and purging of the laggards, as we find ourselves in today. Canada is weakened by the failure of the current public and its representatives to understand and appreciate the efforts to build this country. By failing to value that hard work, we risk losing what we’ve built. The signs of decline are clear: fading meritocracy, emphasis on identification by race and/or ethnicity and/or sexual identity and/or sexual orientation as the determining qualitative identifications of a person. Work ethic, moral values, talent, skill, and personality are deemed less important by today’s revolutionaries. We’re afraid to refer to each other by our biological genders and to raise children as males and females complete with the transference of responsibilities associated with gender role models This is leading us to new and greater divisions and a sense of hopelessness for our families, communities, and country. I’ve never seen so many confused young people. I won’t even get into our healthcare system and the creeping growth of assisted suicide in Canada, which now has the most permissive euthanasia laws in the world. What a mess. It took less than a decade to get us here. I don’t know how bad it will get, but I do know that this is happening on Trudeau’s watch.

When did you decide it was your life’s work to serve as a lame apologist for warmongers? Congress can blame Bush, who can blame the Israelis, etc. Let’s face it, they all deserve blame. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/12/05/israel-shares-blame-on-iraq-intelligence-report-says/fa34cc5e-8a18-4faa-9615-19a899f99fda/

A few other points that Dennis Prager define as the differences. Ideal Primary Identity of an American Left: world citizen Right: American citizen How to Make a Good Society Left: abolish inequality Right: develop each citizen's moral character View of America Left: profoundly morally flawed; inferior to any number of European countries Right: greatest force for good among nations in world history Gender Left: a social construct Right: male and female Do these differences between left and right sound similar to what is happening in Canada? Of course.

Yup, the liberals promote servitude. Their political class’s existence depends on it. Party of slave owners. Of course the revolution they’ve unleashed will come for them.

How to help those travelling down the right wing rabbit hole https://medium.com/progressively-speaking/how-to-help-people-lost-down-the-right-wing-news-rabbit-hole-13c583c4aed9 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/nyregion/right-wing-rhetoric-threats-violence.html The truly sad thing is that there are few open minded people anymore. You have to be either right wing or left wing and how dare you think for yourself. Both sides have good (and bad) points and real thinkers will see that and act on what is correct for them. Political evangelism has become the norm and is tearing countries apart. "Political correctness (or cancel culture as we call it today) is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." Harry S Truman. 1941

No, he said the worsening pandemic in the USA was a fake-news media conspiracy to make him look bad, and that the only reason the USA had a bigger COVID problem than everywhere else was because they were doing so much testing. The fact that so many more people were dying irreconcilably disproved that, but Trump's genius is to repeat his claims loudly and often enough that they sort of become common (faux) knowledge. There's a psychological term for that. The illusory truth effect, also known as the illusion of truth, describes how, when we hear the same false information repeated again and again, we often come to believe it is true. Troublingly, this even happens when people should know better—that is, when people initially know that the misinformation is false. https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/illusory-truth-effect I'm not speaking about you. I'm speaking about theories that Trump promoted. The question is nonsense, just like the theory of wind turbines causing cancer. They're unsightly and (if you're close enough) noisy. That's it. Donald Trump says it's a hoax, and many of his followers believe him. That's really all there is to this. You wanted Trump to win, and so did his followers. Sometimes, however, things really are as simple as they look. Deeply disliked, chaos-mongering presidents with record-low approval ratings should not be expected to win re-election. Not only did he clearly lose, but he lost by the second biggest margin over the last 20 years. He was the first president to lose re-election in 30 years, and he lost in what were usually firmly red states like Arizona and Georgia. His favored candidates floundered in the 2022 mid-terms. Even now his approval rating among Americans languishes through the 30-40% range. The picture couldn't be painted any clearer. Trump is unpopular. These theories about election fraud and Hunter Biden's laptop etc are just coping with reality. That's Trumpism at work. There's the rub. Both sides need to compromise. Trumpism, however, has made this harder than ever. We're not actually debating the issues anymore. We're debating versions of reality, and that gets us nowhere.

There was no danger of default then cause the Republicans HAD THE VOTES TO PASS THE INCREASE. RIGHT NOW, they have the votes to MAKE AMERICA DEFAULT. Do you really NOT SEE the difference? ?

You believe that because he said it was, and repeated it every time and everywhere he could, but it doesn't bear out in the facts. Trump inherited a booming economy mid-late cycle and job growth was lower under him than Obama. Neither of those facts had much of anything to do with who was president, but politicians (and voters) like to pretend so. By this metric then, I assume you were a big Obama fan, right?

Republicans had no problem raising the debt ceiling during Trump's admin. Of course not doing it then would interfere with TAX CUTS for their wealthy constituents.

Powell was a liar just like the others. https://theintercept.com/2018/02/06/lie-after-lie-what-colin-powell-knew-about-iraq-fifteen-years-ago-and-what-he-told-the-un/

Sorta like when Orwell was asked, 'how do we prevent the dystopia you've warned about George'? 'Just don't let it happen' he replied. There's what, maybe some 1500 MP's and MLA's across all of Canada and 38 million of us...how hard can it be?

Is Canada a Civilized state? Good question. 67% Canadians agree Canada is broken. "At least 13,581 patients died while waiting for surgeries, procedures, and diagnostic scans in 2021/22 — up from the previous year's total of 11,581." This is purely because of the state's choosing not to put enough money into the health care system and choosing not to make major reforms of the system. B.C. announced recently that they had billions of dollars in surplus. Provinces have been giving billions of dollars out in financial support cheques to everyone. Yet the health care system is in a crisis. Obviously their priority is not health care. Over 10,000 people per year chose doctor-assisted death in the last couple years (MAID). Over 1,200 people died by overdose in B.C. the past year. Around 80 to 100 thousand babies are aborted per year in Canada alone. Every day at least someone is assaulted by a stranger on the streets of Vancouver. Some die. Gender identity and sexual orientation is taught to children in schools. Lots of reasons for why Canada could not really be a civilized state depending on one's definition.

Isn't most healthcare outside hospitals privately operated but paid for with the health card insurance? Gov rates though. If truly private healthcare can charge whatever they want and charge it to the government, that sounds like a recipe for abuse.

This is one of the main reasons I can no longer be a liberal. When naive and ignorant leaders continue to say how unfair, racist, and colonial our country has been (even though evidence illustrates how exceptionally progressive Canada has been relative to almost every other country and tribe), after a while people believe it. We start pretending that Indigenous, blacks, and most racialized and ethnic groups never invaded, killed, kept slaves, or traded them. In Canada there were Indigenous groups that behaved far worse than the Canadian government. The reward for suppressing some facts and exaggerating others is new forms of injustice. That’s why Trudeau has been irresponsible and helped foment the division and new forms of racism we see today. He was naive to think that his rhetoric wouldn’t be used for nefarious purposes. He’s not alone among western leaders. The problem too is that pointing out Trump’s antics made it easier for Liberals and Democrats to justify their rhetoric. The focus on race is making us come apart in a country that didn’t have a lot of racial division just five years ago. Much of what’s happening is the spillover effect from George Floyd’s death in the US, a country with a much more brutal history with race that is today one of the most accepting countries from a policy perspective. So if in Canada we don’t have racist policies in government or organizations, what we’re really talking about is improving people’s attitudes towards groups outside their in-groups. What’s going to do that? Certainly not trying to make the people who are alive today who happen to be a certain colour feel guilty or like bad people. Taking or destroying their property won’t do it either. Right now the only racist policies I know of are the Indian Act (which the government wants changed but most Indigenous want to keep) and these new “racialized-only” job postings and unfair treatment of people who are accused of racism without any evidence and who are mistreated by their employers on the basis of such false accusations, even after investigations dismiss the accusations, as in the TDSB. Actually some of the content of mandatory equity training that is sweeping across organizations is also an example of systematic racism because it makes value judgments about racial groups such as, “White people are fragile” and “White people are privileged” or “Black people are oppressed.” Clearly some white people are not privileged and some black people are. Generalizing about all people who happen to be a certain colour is racism.

Unfortunately the current federal government has lost much credibility. I wouldn’t call a government that seriously considers medically assisted suicide for the mentally ill a moral authority on healthcare. In fact they’re dangerous to our health. The provinces? Well I’d say it’s case by case. British Columbia now has one of the world’s worst drug epidemics. They’re allowing the distribution of free hard drugs in the name of helping people. The country has taken dangerous positions on gender affirmation of children, basically saying that what children feel their gender is this week should be reinforced by the adults responsible for their education and upbringing. Government has decided that surgery and drugs to cover up biological gender are okay but conversion therapy, whereby counselling and other non-surgical means are used to resolve gender dysphoria, are not. The federal government and provinces are struggling to focus on what actually impacts Canadians. In a time of high inflation and debt we’re sending billions to Ukraine without a clear end or purpose, as there’s no reasonable consensus on what success means. Our federal government throws additional fuel and heating taxes on people in the name of an unclear project called “fighting climate change” without evidence that Canada’s measures will make any measurable difference, especially when the same government is letting in half a million immigrants (carbon footprints) a year. Everyone with a working brain understands that adding millions of people without the infrastructure and housing to support it only raises our already high housing prices and puts more stress on our over-burdened healthcare system. Yet reasonable discussions about policy are overridden by an obsession with identity politics and narratives about who is most deserving of government/business support based on one’s happenstance membership in a group: black, white, indigenous. Government appears to favour some groups more than others. There’s an overall sense that our Charter rights aren’t properly protected and governments are micromanaging how we think and live in unprecedented ways. The pandemic illustrated the overreach to many citizens. I used to be very proud of Canada. Now that I see our governments doing so much to undermine the mental and physical health of Canadians, with no end in sight for the fear mongering around climate change and the sowing of division between races and other identity groups, I don’t feel the same regard for Canada. Think about how much we’ve been told that Canada is colonial and racist these past few years. Think about how the media has fed the conjectures about child graves at residential schools. Evidence isn’t produced to indicate intentional killing, yet words like genocide are used loosely to equate our country with the likes of Nazi Germany. Our kids are now being raised on these dubious narratives. Why would I want any of the above for my kids? Explain the upside. Unless and until we have governments that are honest and fair in their esteem for this once great country, and unless government reduces its overreach and starts doing the few things we actually need government to do much better, I’m seriously looking outside Canada for freedom, prosperity, and fair treatment.