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If you look back on it, you'll see that your whole post is a snotty, bigoted attack against people who oppose government overreach, there's not a hint of substance in it, and then you ironically started talking about adult-babies yelling angrily lol. Earlier today you called another poster a goof just because you had no reasonable arguments against their post. Grow up Moonbox.

I'm following the court case, brought by the JCCF under lawyer Leighton Grey - she is testifying regarding the restrictions and mandates and whether they were justified. This court case has been a long time coming, she has been trying to dodge it for almost a year, once claiming she was too busy with the pandemic to come to court and then going on vacation when the trial was supposed to start. Dr. Deena Hinshaw takes vacation after claiming to be too busy for trial | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (jccf.ca) JCCF lawsuit states that the AB gov has violated the right to peaceful assembly, the right to travel, the right to conduct a business to earn a living, the right to visit family and friends, including having visitors in one’s own private residence, and the right to worship. I'll post snippets from the trial as I hear of them.

Heard of it. The word censor isn't even in the bill is it? If I'm wrong, show me where the words censor or censorship, media and government are used together in a sentence or paragraph that makes it unambiguously clear that the government can tell the msm what not to report. Thanks and good luck.

Grow up Moonbox. You're in no position to be calling other people names, and stop trying to interpret graphs using nothing more than grade 8 math and confirmation bias.

First day in Canada? Were you unaware that the PM wears the AG hat when it suits his fancy? Of course the Premier is gonna know before attack dogs go after a pastor.

You were meant to examine them, goof. So what? Congratulations you can view a chart and speak English. What do you figure this means? but it's not. The percentage of change is...below zero before COVID showing improving mortality figures until 2020 when that reverses and we see an increase in mortality. Again, you have a math problem. I'm not sure what sort of massive spike you're demanding to see, but COVID's fatality risk was never more than ~3% and (especially in Canada) the mandates and measures made sure there was only a small proportion of people infected. When you take a low fatality rate and apply it to a low percentage of the population, you don't move the needle very far. If want to see big spikes then look to the USA, where Orange man and the idiot babies in the MAGA crowd let COVID run rampant and they actually saw some of the worst infection rates in the world.

Neither socialist intervention or market forces on their own appear to be effective but I think combinations can work. But the topic is more about the tax which I'm assuming will be on top of all the other measures taken like reigning in foreign ownership, adding more burden on owners of multiple dwellings etc. I think any ability to deduct mortgage interest if that was an option will have to be restricted to mortgages on primary residences only or real estate will become even more of an investment vehicle than a basic need.

Your view is unethical. The protesters were well within their constitutional rights to protest. They must not be judged as a totality as fringe, racist, misogynist, or having unacceptable views. Such generalizations are unfair and irresponsible on the level of making a judgment about whole peoples based on superficial markers like race. I think you’re a cultural Marxist and a supporter of anti-democratic ideas. Sadly many people think like you and don’t understand what they’re destroying or what it’s being replaced with. You don’t know what you stand for, except perhaps the loss of citizens’ rights. That’s all I see. Strip away your constitution and make fun of Christianity, sure, but you offer nothing in return except state-defined values that can change by decree.

I get my news from MLW

I just wanted to start a thread for Biden's gaffes. Not serious things, like saying that "America will respond in kind if Russia uses chemical weapons in Ukraine" or "the 82nd airborne will be in Ukraine [paraphrasing]", just his funny word soup moments.

I've read 1,000 of your posts, and I bet dollars to donuts know that you appreciate the entirely one-sided 'snippets' (aka lies and disinformation) on CTV. So there's that.

GREY hammers Hinshaw on her comments about "young healthy people" being harmed by covid. Hinshaw: The risk to children is not zero. And kids are impacted by the deaths of older people around them. GREY: There is no basis for a covid pandemic in young people under the age of 20. It's not supportable by your own data for hospitalizations/death. Hinshaw: covid 19 infection is not a significant risk to people under the age of 19. (Yet look what she did to schools.....)

GREY: Doesn't this graph show that the risk to Albertans from covid is very low? The risk of hospitalizations/death is low, sometimes vanishingly low for the majority of the population, especially under the age of 60. GREY: We have had very few deaths under the age of 60? Hinshaw: Yes GREY: What about under 50? Hinshaw: All of these lives matter. GREY: 9 out of 10 Canadians who died of covid had at least one other comorbidity. Is this true? Hinshaw: Yes GREY: I put it to you that given what the data was showing, it didn't make sense to restrict the activities of most of the population, based on what you knew. Hinshaw: I disagree with that conclusion GREY: Your orders impacted the liberties of 96% of Albertans who were at no risk of serious health outcomes or death. HINSHAW: if the hospitals are overwhelmed, healthy people could be impacted by a knock-on effect, if they are not able to access the healthcare system. GREY: Several studies show the impact of lockdowns was negligible. What do you have to say about that? Hinshaw: We implemented non-pharmaceutical interventions to stop the worst of what could have happened.

Grey asked Hinshaw if masking works. Hinshaw: We don't know that's a binary. Does the mask stop transmission? Does it minimize the severity of the illness? We have relied on the totality of the evidence. GREY: I think you just stated that there is not a consensus of opinion on the usefulness of masking. Hinshaw: The peers I interact with - I believe the majority would agree that universal masking in broad public settings indoor settings would provide an overall benefit. (I notice her testimony is couched in things like "might be" "could" and "should be" - so yeah, nothing definite, no science being followed. She relied on "Snitch Lines". I'm not even kidding.)

Grey asks why Hinshaw keeps talking about supporting personal choices in health policy after she issued about 4 dozen edicts that restricted choices and what evidence she considered when making restrictions mandatory and not voluntary. She is describes the restrictions as a "treatment course" for disease at a population level.

Grey made Hinshaw admit she has no training in mental health policy, religious and cultural practices, economics and business, sports and recreation policy, university or educational policy or governance, travel and tourism policy, yet her orders impacted all those areas. Hinshaw admits the measures she imposed caused harm to the public. "We have done everything we can to balance the benefits of containing the illness with the unintended harm of the measures". (Except it was never contained.) Hinshaw dances around Grey's question about if she agrees her restrictions hurt the poor more. She admits it did, but avoids taking responsibility. " I agree non-pharmaceutical interventions did impact those with the least resources more".

No well-informed or sane person believes the things that you do. We can talk about government overreach and even agree on many of those issues, but as soon as the conspiracy clown-parade starts throwing around their hyperbole, nobody cares or listens anymore. Any chance for a reasonable fact-based discussion is over and we're left with nothing but a bunch of adult-babies yelling angrily amongst one another. The worst part is that your exaggerated, emotional hyperbole accomplishes nothing (except maybe catharsis) other than to shore up support for everything you're raving against. Sleepy Joe Biden would have lost the election in the USA against even a somewhat rational opponent and Justin Trudeau would likely have lost too if not for the fact that the election very much became a referendum on vaccines and pandemic responses vs the ignorance and melodrama of Canada's goofy far-right.

Fine...go play with Moonbox. The 2 of you are Libbie shills anyway.

ROFLMAO!!! Yet another swinggg...an' a miss, brought to you by that enormous intellect known as "Moonbox". The great conservative...

You're right but it doesn't matter because Statista is still showing the same thing. The numbers of deaths amongst the vaccinated would number in the 10's of thousands if the vaccine was as useless as you say.

Sad, sad, sad. It is really sad to read your posts.

As do immigrants; they aren't even eligible for social programs for something like two after arrival. Refugees get support, but they are a different class. And most of them are working after five years.

So it looks like the Liberals have passed a bill titled Weather Modification Information Act. With Trudeau loving his new found totalitarianism by passing fake "emergencies" should we expect him to start shutting down travel on Sundays and making you stay home to try and change the weather? Maybe he thinks there's not enough rain so he thinks that by you staying home it'll rain out? Has he lost his mind? https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/W-5/page-1.html?txthl=act

Of course you're wrong, and quoting propaganda again, but don't let that stop you. Canada, total deaths in 24 months - 37,000 Basically 1,500/mo. "Vaxed" Canucks since Dec - 2,757 deaths in a bit less than 3 months (statista hasn't updated in ver a week). Just under 1k/mo. This isn't a case of "the vax is performing like a vax". It's a case of "the vax is performing like a placebo".

Depopulation by design. Make the burden so high on families that they have no choice but to not have kids.

Foreign investment. But also that it's expensive to live where people want to live. Supply and Demand. Very free market capitalistic principals at play.

Why was this post moved to Federal Politics from Support and Questions?

Hilarious...did you think I wouldn't examine your graphs. The first in increments of 0.02 and the second in increments of 10. Even better...in the bottom graph of your first pic, the percentage of change is...ZERO! Really...just go play with Mikie.

I had no idea Canada's government censors the news. What's the name of the legislative Act that legalizes and regulates this censorship?

So says the guy whose posts usually resemble this.

Its not supposed to help homeowners, its supposed to help the government revenues so they can pay for their handouts. But people like handouts and don't like taxes. So to stay elected, the gov will probably just keep charging it to the debt because Canadians don't care if other people pay for their free stuff.

An oldie but a goody

Fixing the procurement system should be number one priority...before any more money is given to any department for equipment... The way it is designed is to prevent any procurement....taking 30 years to purchase a fighter aircraft is not just a flashing warning the system is not working but rather a nuclear explosion seen around the planet.. even the liberals can see it, it was after all one of Justins campaign promises, along with being transparent and sunny ways...Now would be a good time to step up and fix s real problem... Canadian Forces in desperate need of new spending, procurement follow-through, experts say (msn.com)

They're actions which speak louder than words and dictionary's. No one was immobilized or restrained so that vaccine could be injected into them by agents of the state. Is it really that impossible to acknowledge that not one single person endured this? I certainly get that force and coercion can mean the same thing in a general context but you people use the word force in the context of a totalitarian dictatorship which is so wrong it's stupid.

Its impossible to take this oft-repeated assertion seriously because there really is a difference between physical force and official coercion. Not one single Canadian has been forced to endure having a government official immobilize them and force a needle into them against their wish. Not one.

So Jesus is hidden in the gaps behind the conspiracies. How convenient. Its easy to see how politics gets such a bad rap too.

Maybe the "old stock" don't have too many babies for a reason. And maybe the majority of them are against immigration and population growth. But the planes keep bringing record numbers of people in. I would definitely not support that. I also do not want to buy a single Chinese product; actually I am happier not buying any product if I can help it.

LOL The Calgary rallies are in the news. But MSM doesn't seem to report on any of the other Freedom rallies in Canada or around the world. BC has huge ones. And in Europe. But I understand if CBC doesn't cover it, it doesn't exist for you. ?

US Convoy gives up... https://www.thedailybeast.com/peoples-convoy-gives-up-will-leave-washington-dc-area-after-three-weeks-of-doing-nothing "Protesting for freedoms that they have" "Three weeks after the so-called “People’s Convoy” landed in Washington, D.C., the group is calling it quits after accomplishing nothing except injuring residents and circling the Beltway." How much better it would have been if ours had ended similarly. Oh well, the effort is starting to fade from memory already isn't it ?

And yet somehow, in the old days, when integration not multi-culturalism was the way, we got by.

Maybe...would be nice if they integrated the ones who take my order a little better. Could they not at least teach them to speak English a little better and not treat me like I'm the one with the problem when I don't understand them?

His arguments are generally "I have a Woman and Genders study degree. I'm smart. The rest of you are dumb. End of debate".

But wait, Moonbox. You're starting to confuse me again. Weren't you telling us last week what a great Conservative you were - voting for Harper twice and Ford once? You said. But now you appear to be arguing in favor of Government waste. Huh?

As opposed to you derailing threads repeatedly? Lol. People on here have repeatedly put thought into their posts. The only thing you contribute is "your a conspiracy theorrrisstt" ?.. pretty pathetic. In this case you've added nothing except childish insults and a bad attitude. People on the internet disagree with you bro. No sense acting like a child over it

There's been no proof of a concerted and deliberate attempt to misinform across all of mainstream media. There have been "got'cha" moments about which you folks crow, but which prove nothing more than incompetence.

I'm pretty sure when you say "environment" you mean the mythical catastrophe of global warming, right? I heard an interesting one on the morning CTV news. They tell us gas prices are currently going down. But they tell us to jump on that quick before Friday, because Carbon Taxes are rising on that day. So Carbon Taxes do affect the price at the pump after all, do they CTV? Thanks for the update. Will you also be updating your BS that the price of gas doesn't affect inflation?

Please. You've been shown all the lies that have had to be retracted over the Convoy, over and over again. Lies that were used by the government to shut down a peaceful protest and bring in the Emergency Act illegally, which has made Canada the laughing stock of the world. For gawd's sake - the CRA was forced to admit publicly that it LIED about truckers ransacking its offices. Just because you CHOSE to believe the lies and not inform yourself on what was really going on in Ottawa - there were literally thousands of videos that told a very different story than you were being spoon-fed by MSM - that's on YOU, dude. Ignore them all you want, it's really up to you. Willfully ignorant looks great on you.

This is all concept creep. Basically the Trudeau dictatorship is seeking ever expanding controls over how people think and behave. I remember thinking the McGuinty government was too interventionist. Now it’s fair to say our constitutional rights and freedoms are stripped. We have at least three more years of this unless the Governor General intervenes.

The hit to the economy might explain the lack of interest. IMO our Western society has grown too big and divided to really get together on anything.

It was not all about vaccines, your having that reading issue again.... Taxpayers forked over $600,000 to social media influencers last year for them to sing the praises of the Liberal government. Some of it was to promote vaccines, 155 K worth, Meanwhile, the Department of Canadian Heritage paid $142,000 for tweets on Canada Day and for ice-carving competitions in Charlottetown, Corner Brook, Fort St. John, Halifax, Saskatoon and Winnipeg. Among those who were paid to sing the praises of the Liberals was Dragon’s Den personality and investor Michele Romanow, as well as partner Nicholas Duvernois, who received $120,000 to promote Export Development Canada.