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You kind of flew in and didn't provide much substance.

So if CCCG reports a major storm front is coming with a story that includes satellite pictures and images of areas already affected people should regard it as straight-up leftist propaganda and ignore it.

That's the problem right there. Basically every major story that came out in the news in the last 5 years has been a train wreck on those stations. FYI one doesn't 'get news' from those sources. You only look there to see what the sheeple are being told. Anyone who was stupid enough to believe that "the lab leak theory is ridiculous and anyone who talks about it is a conspiracy nut" shouldn't even be watching "news". Topics like that aren't verboten. Hunter's laptop story wasn't verboten. The WHO's story that " H2H isn't happening" was toxic, dangerous garbage but the CCCG sheeple believed it. Joe Biden actually did do a quid pro quo in Ukraine and anyone who says that's a verboten topic is instantly discredited as well. Drawing comparisons between the gesundheitspass and the vaxpass is verboten. They don't mention that the Nazis also froze people's banks accounts based on their political affiliations. The Liberal party's philosophy (Catherine McKenna admitted as much) about repeating lies until they become the new truth is a Goebbels mainstay. The Canadian stations missed the fact that Trudeau was hate mongering Canadians. Just missed it completely. Then they piled on to fuel Trudeau's "They're all racists" narrative by constantly acting as if the Freedom Convoy was a big Nazi coming out party when the opposite was actually true. The CCCG also completely missed out on the story of police beating peaceful Canadian protesters who had surrendered, on their knees, with their hands on their heads. How did they 'miss that'? They didn't. They decided that they didn't want you to see it, even though they knew how newsworthy that actually was. Those stations are fake AF. Anyone who watches that shit and calls it 'news' is a total idiot. Let me rephrase that just in case I wasn't clear - anyone who watches CBC, CTV, CNN or Global and calls it "news" is a total, irredeemable idiot. That is straight-up leftist propaganda and basically nothing there is 'true'. People watch True North and Rebel News because they have no choice. Ezra Levant is the most unwatchable dweeb on the internet. But things that actually happened, which are important to Canadians, will be omitted from the CCCG feed. If you don't watch Rebel and True North then you're forced even deeper down the rabbit hole. Those stations are actually very credible by comparison to the CCCG. They're 1 lie away from being cancelled, CCCG exists to stop the truth from getting out. They're the exact same as Pravda, Xinhua, NoKo news and Al Jazeera.

Which court order are you referring to? The injunction was for the horns which were stopped even before the judge issued the injunction. The Emergencies Act was being debated in Parliment. Not yet law. And then faced issues in the Senate. While I agree with you to an extent, Trudeau having his ego bruised isn't reason enough to fake an emergency. As for police brutality, there's video of 1. Officers throwing punches at handcuffed protesters in the back of police vehicles. 2. Police putting protesters in handcuffs with no intent on charging them (which is unlawful confinement) 3. Police horses running through a crowd. I know officers who are members of mounted units and they even said off the record that that was a breach of protocol. The incident is under investigation. 4. Cops dousting protesters with pepper spray (excessive force) 5. Video showing cops using the butt of a gun slamming a protester in the side of the head. To say this is standard police practice is laughable. While I get you may have some law enforcement background, the ol boys club shouldn't be reason to turn a blind eye to brutality

Joseph Bourgault is: -Opposed to the World Economic Forum -Opposed to digital ID -Doesnt believe foreign corporations should be able to track what you are doing. Got my vote

Anyone catch the interview Jason Kenney did in a church of all places trying to say he's going to protect churches? Same man who erected a fence around GraceLife Church and arrested multiple pastors for the crime of providing pastoral care to parishioners during Covid? Same guy who threw a pastor in solitary confinement for protesting? The man's a fraud. Defies his own covid orders with his expensive supper at Sky Palace while there were restrictions. I hear the UCP will have him under leadership review.

You're basking in ignorance again, hey eyeball? Someone absolutely did say it, under oath, on video, and it wasn't a low-level unknown either. If you had a credible news source you'd know about it.

They just don't care. They will loyally take whatever position their dear leader proposes - back then it was Charest.

Moonshine is a grade a troll. Best to let him be in his own little universe.

Ironically you're the one who floated the conspiracy theory that Putin's war in Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO, it's "just because he's evil". You're also the one with the conspiracy theory about "no US bioweapons in Ukraine". Did I say something conspiratorial? Was I wrong to say that "The US has bioweapons in Ukraine" after the US gov't said "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

But... firstly... explain the motivation. Why do they want to do this, or to try to do this ? If it's actually to be taken literally 'control' rather than just 'profit from' then I am at square 1 on the playing board, which is "Why ?"

Young Tory as in guys who don't think the laws of supply and demand exists and they alone are smart enough to fix the world's issues?

It is easier to say who should NOT be leader. Not Dennis O'Leary. No Charest. Charest strikes me just like the Young Tories I use to meet in College. They couldn't name a single principle they believe in other than winning an election.

As a libertarian minded person, I naturally dislike the militarization of the police.

Sugar in its many forms is inflammatory and addictive. Hard on the joints, and possible/probable weight gain. If you want to feel better . . . no spuds, flour products, or rice. And of course, no sugar. Just do it fattie!

Healthcare, moonshine. Try to keep up please

So much love. So much unity from the vaxx nazis.

Who cares. There is only one excuse to not get vaccianted and that is on rare medical grounds. If you want to work, get vaccinated and stop whining like a baby. If you don't like Trudeau, quit whining like a baby and defeat him in the next election. Support Jean Charest.

There are two lines open there "genuis" ? Compared to what the protesters did to the rail line a few years ago this was tame. But because trudy agrees with the other protesters views, no emergency act or police violence was necessary

Well, it has been a pleasure. I was glad to stir the pot and piss off certain posters. It is fun watching the conspiracy theorists on this forum go silent when questioned and go bonkers when called out but it never deterred them from spewing and finding obscure conspiracy theory websites and publications. Kudos to your misguided simple minded efforts. So go ahead, which one of you needs to have the last word on me? Have a Happy St Patricks Day and may the buns always be soft in your fights LOL See you later.

This thread is about the leadership race. We have argued this protest issue to death on other threads and Z., Yzer., and West, were wrong and Moonbox and I were right. ;- ) If you believe the government over stepped, you have the opportunity to remove them. Get your friends together and take out memberships in the CPC so you can support Jean Charest. You can join the Great Tory Crusade to retire Prime Minister Trudeau. If you truly want a change in government, the race has already begun and it is already time to join the campaign for your local Conservative candidate and work to make sure we have a leader who can win more than 180 ridings. Sitting at home will only let the grits win again.

None of the actions of the government sound like what you'd find in a western democracy

The bridges almost always had a lane open through the protests. There were not billions of dollars of losses. The trucks did their deliveries, even if there were delays and fewer drivers because of the vaccine mandates, which drove up the costs of goods. You can’t compare these vaccines to those other inoculations, which are not mandatory for employment in most jobs. The vaccine mandates are forced government-issued healthcare that don’t take into account the uniqueness of individuals or their personal discretion. I’m triple-vaccinated but vehemently oppose vaccine mandates because it’s unconstitutional to throw people out of work and remove freedoms from people who have not chosen to take a vaccine, especially one that is new, provides incomplete protection, and doesn’t stop the spread of the virus. Vaccination was probably a good idea for most people, but that argument is increasingly difficult to make and the courts are now respecting personal discretion, which should completely up-end the vaccine passport. The damage to Canadian families of lockdowns and restrictions will be felt for years to come. The truckers, who had been valued as essential workers when most people worked from home, were drawing a line in the sand on government overreach, a line that our federal government continues to violate. Not only was Trudeau’s refusal to meet with protesters and discuss legitimate concerns extremely irresponsible leadership, he went much further by insulting them and making unvaccinated people seem less than human: unscientific, racist, misogynist, with unacceptable views and unworthy of space. Trudeau sounded like Hitler, according to Democrat influencer Bill Maher and one of the most important entrepreneurs of our century, Elon Musk. After the blockades were removed from borders and a court injunction reduced the honking in Ottawa, Trudeau had the audacity to bring in a form of martial law and declared the protests illegal. He also froze the bank accounts of those who supported the protests financially, retroactively, despite the fact that it was not illegal to support these protests when people made donations. There were a few particularly bad actors in this: Singh, leader of the NDP who threw his own brother under the bus for donating $13,000 to the convoy; Freeland, the first Finance Minister in history to freeze the bank accounts of people supporting a legal protest; Lametti, the Justice Minister who said that people with political views opposing the government would be targeted (he actually said Trump supporters); and many other collaborators (the Ottawa Chief of Police, Blair, etc.). Trudeau of course has come to represent hypocrisy on the world stage. He touts democracy abroad while suppressing it at home. The media outlets of other countries have him pegged: India, Australia, USA, UK, to name a few. To this day the vaccine mandates and passports remain in place and Trudeau won’t even discuss their removal. Could it have anything to do with the fact that as the protests got underway Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum said he had penetrated more than half the Canadian Cabinet? Of course not, that’s all conspiracy nonsense, even if the WEF wants everyone worldwide to have digital ID by 2030. This isn’t a secret and people have good reason to fear what’s occurred and probably still underway. You reference old political manoeuvres from a much more innocent time when people still remembered from the War just how precious freedom and sovereignty are. What has unfolded in Canada is unprecedented in its level of government overreach and violation of constitutional rights. We’re witnessing a naive narcissist PM behave arrogantly towards the people and recklessly towards our sovereignty and Constitution. What’s also become clear is just how far the government’s reach extends into our media and even our justice system. Our press is too heavily reliant on state funding to be called a free press. Smart, discerning people search for unbiased sources, mostly online, but there too we see big tech colluding with governments to shut down opposing narratives. As Harari has noted, we’re dangerously reliant on the data algorithms we have set up to run our society (A.I.). Just think of how we have watched the increases and decreases of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. The public and governments surrendered their authority to technocrats, but of course science is applied based on choices that humans must make. We have given away too much of our agency. Trudeau’s authoritarian moves reflect this. We have to decide what matters to us as people. History taught us that constitutional rights matter because without them tyranny too easily takes hold, but look how loosely our government has played with the Constitution. We also must make sure that fear of hypothetical future scenarios like extreme climate change that haven’t happened yet doesn’t drive our policies to such a degree that life becomes unaffordable. Hyperinflation and military threats from energy superpowers are greater threats than the rise in global temperatures, at least for another generation or more. We need to drop the irresponsible over-subsidization of insufficient energy options and seek sane, realistic energy policy. We’ve forgotten something as basic as needing affordable energy to live. We’re also giving far too much time to pseudoscientific notions about how race underpins all we do. We’re more than our races. We must never let race determine our destiny. At the core of a free democracy must be principles of freedom. The truckers may not have articulated their battle in the way a Liberal politician or university professor would appreciate, but the unifying messages among the protesters still stand and have great importance for all freedom-loving people: Hold the line. Faith over fear. Mandate freedom.

So, Russia can invade Ukraine and kill its people because Zelensky is a globalist shill who supports Zuckerberg, Soros, the Bidens and other globalist minions. Really? When the Republicans win back the House and Senate this year and Trump is reelected in 2024 should the U.S. outlaw the Democratic Party? After all, according to you, they are globalist shills who supports Zuckerberg, Soros, the Bidens and other globalist minions. If the Republicans do not win back the congress and the White House should the right mount a civil war?

Yes, unhealthy people are more likely to die of almost anything. That doesn't mean that masks and vaccines don't work.

So now you are guessing.

No only the most fanatic libertarians think we shouldn't have rules. Strong government is not necessarily big government.

One thing I noticed is when you go into medical facilities they make you take off your cloth designer mask and give you on the common paper masks.

Yes, I agree .. most people dead from Covid had comorbidities But claiming that nobody who has a healthy weight and takes a multivitamin gets seriously sick is ridiculous.

So, everybody who ever gets sick does so because they didn't take a multivitamin?

You are 100% correct. I realized long ago that I am talking to a group of programmed robots on here and it is largely a waste of time. They are ideologically driven and no amount of reasoning will change their minds. Science doesn't mean a thing with them. They are part of a lunatic fringe. I saw one today driving a pickup with a trailer with big Canadian flag hanging off the back of the trailer. The good thing about them having a big flag is it serves as a warning that the guy driving the truck is a nutcase and we should avoid them at all costs.

Yet, oddly, before vaccines, when mask wearing was a thing, there was almost no flu. When mask mandates were removed during times of low transmission, transmission increased. Just two weeks ago, the UK removed it's mask mandate, and now cases have skyrocketed. There've been studies showing the relative effectiveness of various masks, and turns out ... most of'em offer some protection - not for the wearer so much as those around them. Even just looking at what has happened in the real world - without any supporting studies - demonstrates that masks definitely provide some benefit. So, you are wrong. As is Goddess and the rest of you who believe anything "alternative" media tells you.

It's just too bad moderate conservatives can't seem to live without their conspiracy minded brethren. I'd probably have no problem supporting a party that moderate conservatives were part of but not until they scrape off the shit.

Which isn't Canada.

If you want to know what an actual totalitarian state is like: Stalin was giving a speech in a theatre. In the middle of his speech, somebody sneezed. Stalin paused..."Who sneezed?" Nobody said a word. He had the first row taken out and he resumed speaking until the clatter of machine guns could be heard. Stalin paused again..."Who sneezed?" Dead silence. The second row was taken out and shot. The same happened to the third row when nobody fessed up. Stalin paused, leaned over the podium and asked, "For the final time, who sneezed?" A man in the fifth row and tearfully replied, "It was I, Comrade Stalin." Stalin nodded and relied, "Guzuntite," and continued with his speech. My point is that what would have occured if someone tossed gravel at Stalin? You people who bang on about dictatorship and totalitarinism don't have a clue. You are living in one of the best countries in the world. Try living in Florida where the schools are censered by the Governor or other states where women's rights to reproductive choice have been strped away. Look at states where a teacher can prosecuted for teaching evolution. You are whining because you have to wear a damn mask and get a vaccine.

You're right. Trudeau Jr. has been pretty good.

Well I am free so...sucks to be you though by the sounds of it.

Well I'm sorry, but you need to learn the difference between "debunked" and criticized. But yeah, a woman who traveled the world attending WEF conferences while telling us she had no interest in it told us there was nothing to see there. You believing that, "debunks" the sum total of nothing.

The no freaking way i'll be voting for Doug Ford. Some independant right wing is gonna get my vote, because I won't go liberal or NDP. Remember the pain Doug Ford put us through? We couldn't even go to 75% precent of the isles in walmart to buy a toaster over. If you tried buying a microwave, it was deemed unessential. Those closed isle sections were probably printed through his company, Deco Labels. He had the Gyms shut down for 7 months. Since when was it a crime to want to go to the gym and remain healthy? He keeped kids out of school longer than any other provice, so they lost half their high school and motivation for learning Heck Doug Ford was more authoritarian than Justin Trudeau in my opinion. He's nothing like his brother. He's definetly a closet socialist, and he must be removed from office. How can anyone right of center vote for this imposter? One thing I agree with liberal on, is that Doug Ford is a loser.

So now use that kernel of truth and examine your own theories and worldviews. Ask questions like, "How does this make any sense whatsoever?" "Is it possible for this many people, organizations and governments across the world to be in on the same conspiracy." just for a start. Come back to us in a few weeks and let us know how you made out.

This protest arguement is irrelevant. The court declared the protest illegal. End of story. This has nothing to do with the leadership campaign. On that topic, at the risk of repeating myself, we need to have an effective leader of HM's loyal opposition who can replace the Liberal government in the next election. If you have an issue with the government, that is where your energy should go. If you are disappointed with this country, do something to make it better. Show the grits we are not a country of bitchers.

If you're going to bullshit people, at least do it with stuff that can't be easily demonstrated false with a 5s Google search. It's hard to tell if you were lying or you were completely clueless and believed what you were saying, but either way it was pretty obvious misinformation.

"Yeah, well there's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns. All I can say is, go on and bleed, but it's more important to keep law and order in this society than to be worried about weak-kneed people who don't like the looks of a soldier's helmet."

Nope. The police may have been diverting traffic, but protestors were blocking the bridge. No genius. You can see in the pictures what they're actually blocking. It makes it pretty hard for you to bullshit this stuff when it's this easy to show how you're wrong. It's safe to say, I think, that you've never actually been here. Obstinate/ignorant Canadians refusing to comply with health and public safety mandates? Sure.

We don't know how much it was, but here's what we do know: 1) The Ambassador Bridge sees ~$350-400M of daily trade crossing each day 2) It is already deemed insufficient to handle daily traffic, which is why the Gordie Howe bridge is being constructed at the Detroit/Windsor crossing with 6 lanes (compared to the Ambassador Bridge's four). Given the Ambassador Bridge's daily capacity and the fact that it's a trade bottleneck at the best of times, we can safely conclude the economic losses from its closure were immense. Billions? Possible, but perhaps not. Hundreds of millions? For certain. I wasn't apologizing for the Emergency Act. I was pointing out that you were bullshitting again, trying to say the Ambassador Bridge wasn't shut down.

Yes when you are attending to open wounds. When was the last time before 2020 that you saw a surgeon ripping around with a mask on? Never. Because it's dumb.

OK, name a country that had no rules for COVID.

Another deflection. Sad that you make statements, get called out and just keep blathering on without answering the questions. When a real man is wrong and get called out, he will admit his mistake, guess you are not a real man, just another Joe Rogan disciple and conspiracy theorist. LOL

Having "laws, regulations and punishments" is not what makes a country authoritarian or totalitarian. Making up arbitrary laws which have no basis in science or reason, just for the sake of power and control and benefitting only the ruling class is what makes a country authoritarian.