WestCanMan Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) LMAO Great powers, like who, for example? Which countries "like Canada"? Maybe "Canada"? Did Trump "try to make Canada subservient", or did he succeed? Last time I checked, Carney had folded like a cheap tent. 😂 IOW, "Bad, bad Twumpo maked me his b-otch, mommy." Edited January 24 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Zeitgeist Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/23/2026 at 1:53 PM, Goddess said: I don't think he is. His climate grift was coming to an end before he decided to "help" Canada. His GFANZ cartel was being investigated in the US, the majority of big industries had abandoned it, AI has supplanted climate alarmism as the topic du jour at the WEF this year, countries that went all-in funding the green grift are floundering economically and finding that intermittent wind & solar cannot replace reliable other sources and was too expensive, so citizens are suffering. His time in England was not the grand success he claims it was, he bankrupted them, increased their energy costs, decreased output. He sent money like a drunken sailor in the UK and frequently came under fire for it. At best, he got mixed reviews. He came to Canada because the climate grift is ending and Canada is basically the last man standing when it comes to climate grift. He's here to milk the last few billions out of it and he'll bugger off to the US when we finally give him the boot, where his family lives and works and where all his investments are. I think the problem we have now is that we’re going to keep going down the woke road to disaster in the name of doing things our way instead of Trump’s way. Since the jig is pretty much up on net zero, climate change extremism is largely out of favour now, but Canada is persisting in allowing racialized only and LGBTQ only job postings and university admissions. It’s continuing the shaming of Canada and its founding peoples as “settler colonial”. Carney is backing all of that nonsense that Trudeau ushered in. For those reasons alone, I can’t support the Liberals, no matter how coercive and wrong Trump may be on certain aspects of his foreign and trade policies. There are other obvious reasons too: Emergencies Act, bills to curtail free speech, fascistic stakeholder capitalism… Carney has correctly identified some but not all our problems, some of which he avidly supported, and while Trump has caused some real problems, some of what Trump has done was necessary. That is getting lost in the debates, because people seem to either buy into one leader’s approach or the other’s. Canada is now seen as universally Liberal both inside and outside of the country. That’s not good, because the Liberals of the last decade made almost all of the mess we’re in. Edited January 24 by Zeitgeist Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: and while Trump has caused some real problems 😮 You don't say! Like what? 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 9 hours ago, I am Groot said: Maybe we should make a deal with the US, then, instead of flexing and strutting about how much better and nicer we are than they are. But then, Carney doesn't really have any reason to want such a deal. His party can run against Trump forever. And every economic problem we have, including his massive budgets, can be blamed on Trump. Why would he want a trade deal? We have a deal with the US...CUSMA. But like everything else with trump...we have today but perhaps not tomorrow. Now is the time to stretch our arms and look for new or better partners. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Like what? 51st. That’s a Canada problem not a Trump problem. Your own pride is getting the better of you. 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: better partners. Keep stretching. The largest consumer market just south of your border and you had to go and squander it. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: ... Keep stretching. The largest consumer market just south of your border and you had to go and squander it. Right now...any one seems to be a better trade partner than the US. Don't get me wrong, I love the US, it's people and what it has to offer but, when you have a waffling inconsistent leader, it is difficult to believe anything said as it changes from day to day it changes. Your prez does not make deals that he does not break or hinder or hamper. He also says he makes deals and often not verified by the people he says he made a deal with and worse, he does not disclose the deal. Yes, our largest trading partner is south of us and can remain so..if your prez decides for you. It is obvious the "We, The people" do not exist or matter anymore...all decisions are done by "He, The president" LOL If "He" tariffs you out of being able to buy our goods and products, well, we need to find more customers. That is what our guy is doing and that is what is really pi$$ing off your guy. It seems to outside observers that you no longer have a governing body...only a dictatorial president. You have, and it shows every day in any of your news outlets (left or right) that you have an ineffective congress and senate and bickering political electorates. So, in my mind and in my opinion....you have become , at a minimum a discussion point and most likely, a laughing stock and at worst, untrustworthy. As the topic is titled, your man did indeed generate a "new world order." EDIT: A few weeks ago your man Trumps said our deal twith China was good...https://globalnews.ca/news/11617010/canada-china-trade-deal-trump-us-reaction/ Today he says he will impose a 100% tariff on Canada because of the deal made with China.... https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-threatens-canada-with-100-tariff-over-possible-deal-with-china-2026-01-24/ How can you trust a country like that...with a leader like Trump?? Edited January 24 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: 51st. That’s a Canada problem not a Trump problem. Your own pride is getting the better of you. Okay so you jumped on my question to another poster to point out a problem that Trump didn't cause. 🤔 Edited January 24 by Michael Hardner 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Okay so you jumped on my question to another poster to point out a problem that Trump didn't cause. These are all symptoms, but the root cause is still the same. Your refusal to accept that you’re Americans 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: We have a deal with the US...CUSMA. But like everything else with trump...we have today but perhaps not tomorrow. Now is the time to stretch our arms and look for new or better partners. 34% of our economy is based on exports, and 77% of that goes to the US. Our port facilities are small and antiquated, and can't handle a lot more exports, nor do we have the pipelines to carry more than 16% of our oil to anyone but the US. Further, no one else has any interest in our exports other than raw materials, which, as I pointed out, we can't increase without changes to our ports and new pipelines. China buys raw materials, and very little else. Same with Japan. You think we're going to export cars to either of them!? Or to the EU?! 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Right now...any one seems to be a better trade partner than the US. Explain how China is a better trade partner than the US. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
blackbird Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 30 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Explain how China is a better trade partner than the US. MAJOR NEWS REPORT Trump is threatening to put 100% tariffs on Canada if Canada goes through with the trade deal with China. Under Trump Canada's actual sovereignty is threatened. Trump is intent on making Canada a slave of the U.S. Everything is changed. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, I am Groot said: 34% of our economy is based on exports, and 77% of that goes to the US. Our port facilities are small and antiquated, and can't handle a lot more exports, nor do we have the pipelines to carry more than 16% of our oil to anyone but the US. Further, no one else has any interest in our exports other than raw materials, which, as I pointed out, we can't increase without changes to our ports and new pipelines. China buys raw materials, and very little else. Same with Japan. You think we're going to export cars to either of them!? Or to the EU?! Yes, as I have said, the US has been our largest trade partner but, also as I said, we need to look elsewhere so we are not so reliant on one customer or source. Look at what Trump did today. A couple weeks ago he said our deal with China was good, today he said he will put 100% tariffs on us because of the deal with China. We need to look for trade partners more reliable and less volatile. I disagree, there are many countries interested in our offerings...the thing is they also have existing agreements and cannot, unlike Trump, just kill the deal today. they honour the existing deals before the begin with a new one. And yes, we have resources but that is because we really do not make anything in Canada anymore. And yes, we have work to do but, as you am sure you realize...none of this happens overnight. I do not think exporting cars to anyone but the US has ever been discussed, expected or even though about....that is a non issue. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Michael Hardner Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 58 minutes ago, paxamericana said: These are all symptoms, but the root cause is still the same. Your refusal to accept that you’re Americans You're so itching to speak with me that you want to start a discussion that I wasn't even having. 2 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 44 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Explain how China is a better trade partner than the US. Well as of today...China is discussing and willing to trade as opposed to Trump that says he will put a 100% tariff on Canada because of our dealings with China...(regardless of the fact he said it was good just a v[couple weeks ago) We are at Trumps whims right now...it that OK by you?? I am not , in any way saying China is better but...it is one avenue that we need right now. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 On 1/21/2026 at 3:08 PM, Nationalist said: This is a monstrous idea to me. Tasteless. Truly fascist. What global population number would you like to see? 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Explain how China is a better trade partner than the US. For a start, they’re not threatening to invade us. 1 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: For a start, they’re not threatening to invade us. I hope everyone is aware that the US deals with China. Far more than Canada could ever dream of. "In 2024, the United States and China engaged in approximately $658.9 billion to $660.7 billion in total goods and services trade" China deals with the US for more than we could ever hope for. "U.S. Imports from China (2024😞 Ranged between $438.7$ billion (US) and $462.6 billion" And the hard over conservatives here are raging at the pittance of a deal Carney made with China.... and the pittance we trade with the US. Edited January 24 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 53 minutes ago, blackbird said: Trump is threatening to put 100% tariffs on Canada if Canada goes through with the trade deal with China. @Zeitgeist you Canuck sure love pain Quote
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 29 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: For a start, they’re not threatening to invade us. Nope just buying out all the houses causing affordability issues for the local Quote
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Canada a slave of the U.S. Nope you’re enslaving your selves. No taxation without representation? Should of petitioned for statehood. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 America’s proudest boast these days: we’re not as bad as China. Sad. Very sad. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Zeitgeist Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 (edited) 26 minutes ago, paxamericana said: @Zeitgeist you Canuck sure love pain Carney should ignore Trump until the midterms. Don’t even initiate discussions on CUSMA. The guy is pissing off so many people internationally, saying one thing Tuesday and taking it back Wednesday. The U.S. is not seen internationally as reliable right now. I think we just accept the tariffs, let Trump f up supply chains and inflation for Americans. We’ll take the economic hit for a couple of years. US exports represent a tenth of Canadian jobs? Well we’ve had more than 10% unemployment in Canada before and survived. Not all those jobs will disappear anyway because we have some critical suppliers and contracts. Really, if Americans let their president unilaterally declare 100% tariffs by tweet, their system of checks and balances is gone and they have much bigger problems. I think the Supreme Court and the rest of the world is watching this grossly irresponsible so-called leadership out of America. France, UK, Germany and many other countries are absorbing what happened in the threats over Greenland invasion and tariffs and finally refusing to play ball. I actually think Trump is on thin ice. Respected countries aren’t jumping on the “Board of Peace” bandwagon. It’s incredible how much Trump has damaged international relationships. I’m sure the costs to US tourism and made in America stuff won’t be insignificant. I’m surprised the Republicans still haven’t grown a pair and reeled him in. I actually feel sorry for the sycophants in his inner circle. Must be getting hard to look themselves in the mirror with any self-respect. Some titles and salaries aren’t worth the compromise. Edited January 24 by Zeitgeist Quote
I am Groot Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: For a start, they’re not threatening to invade us. Neither are the Americans. 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Well as of today...China is discussing and willing to trade as opposed to Trump that says he will put a 100% tariff on Canada because of our dealings with China...(regardless of the fact he said it was good just a v[couple weeks ago) We are at Trumps whims right now...it that OK by you?? I am not , in any way saying China is better but...it is one avenue that we need right now. We will be at their whims or China's whims. China can cut our imports in a second for any reason, for us doing or saying anything they don't like. They have done so in the past to us and others. Even a full free trade agreement, as Australia had with them, didn't matter when Australia questioned how Covid had started and wanted an investigation. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 hours ago, blackbird said: MAJOR NEWS REPORT Trump is threatening to put 100% tariffs on Canada if Canada goes through with the trade deal with China. This was, I assumed, what Carney and the government wanted. It is and was utterly predictable. Taunt Trump in public in front of your and his peers, and he'll get you for it. Everyone knows that. The question is, why did Carney decide to taunt him in public like that when he knew there would inevitably be retaliation. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Neither are the Americans. We will be at their whims or China's whims. China can cut our imports in a second for any reason, for us doing or saying anything they don't like. They have done so in the past to us and others. Even a full free trade agreement, as Australia had with them, didn't matter when Australia questioned how Covid had started and wanted an investigation. Correct but, when you are primarily a buyer and not a producer, you will always be at the whim of the store. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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