eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is a monstrous idea to me. Tasteless. Truly fascist. Fascist? Please, it's just nature taking it's natural inevitable course. You're taking it all way to fearfully and personally. It's really not that existential. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Politics1990 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 (edited) amazing speech of a true leader unlike the orange turd's speech today who looked like a toddler on the stage trying to bully. I had switched to the ndp after carney got elected but to be honest the past couple weeks he's pulled me back and unless the ndp leader is impressive i would probs vote carney again Edited January 21 by Politics1990 Quote
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, Legato said: And therein lies the problem. One must either be ignorant of the facts or willing to live a lie. The rest here... ...great another old tired litany of right-wing grievances... Sure, let's all follow Trump's lead. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 (edited) 19 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: This was a very brilliant speech in which Carney demonstrated command. Yes it was. Followed by Donnie the Dick spouting the usual BS about how we wouldn't exist without them. Same story we've heard forever. Oh Thank You USA for single handedly saving us from the Germans and the Japanese, then the Russians and the NDP in prosperous provinces. Have next year's Grey Cup. Too bad the rest of the delegates didn't have the guts of the Danish PM and tell you to F*ck right off, Edited January 21 by herbie 2 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: The best reason for globalism is the moral panic, incessant whining and litany of grievances of populists. The last thing Carney needs to do is cater or cave to them. And as far as naivete and the environment go...a declining human population, or at least one with a smaller lighter footprint, is precisely what the world needs. What's rising amongst other powers is more of same sort of angst fuelling populism here. Take China for example. Death of a superpower: is China facing a decade of decline? For the first time in 60 years, China’s population has fallen – leading to concerns about its superpower status Huh, so you’re into de-growth. We’re probably going down that road eventually whether we like it or not, but I don’t think you’ll like it. Imagine constant deflation as demand drops for homes and products. The optimum growth rate long term keeps inflation in and around 1-2%. Ask Newfoundlanders how they feel about the fishing villages they grew up in turning into ghost towns, hospitals being closed, infrastructure being abandoned, options we once enjoyed in a thriving civilization disappearing. Quote
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 minute ago, herbie said: Too bad the rest of the delegates didn't have the guts of the Danish PM and tell you to F*ck right off, By rights he should have walked up on stage and... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: ...great another old tired litany of right-wing grievances... Sure, let's all follow Trump's lead. Says the expert on effed up expectations. Quote
John Stone Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 (edited) I'd agree that the President should stick to the script. On the other hand people listen to Trump for how he describes things rather than the 'what'. (substance). Playing the Devil's Advocate - he is not an inspirational speaker or motivator - far from it - he's extremely weak describing detail - but his nuance comes across, crude and clear. . haha Edited January 21 by John Stone Quote
Army Guy Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Look, your numerous and continuous anti immigration stance kinda pigeon holes you. Well, Carney is PM and speaks on behalf of Canada. It seems his speeches that he has been giving around the world are very well received.... with the exception of to Trump "President Donald Trump gives Mark Carney a firm warning to be gratful for America, saying Carney's speech yesterday at the World Economic Forum didn't sound too grateful. President Trump warned Carney saying: "Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that Mark the next time you make your statements." Trump is not held in high regard in the world riot now...as opposed to Carney that is getting kudos form many world leaders. Seems , without naming Trump, he is getting the message across. Actually the majority of Canadians view Immigration the same way, not sure how you seem to think, that this is some how bad... One good speech does not make him king of the free world....nor does it benefit Canada in any way...How many are lined up to sign new trade agreements with us... This is what the left expects poking the bear, knowing full well that the bear does not take kindly to the poking.....and when the bear reacts the LEFT stand up beating their chest screaming we need to do something....this is terrible. If you look at our economy, tell me we are not dependent on the US for almost everything...Knowing that why do you and others consider poking the bear.... We as a nation thrive because of the US and the US markets, don't kid yourselves the US could cripple Canada at any time both economically and through force...knowing that should at least give us pause before making great speeches.... Trump does not need to be held in high regard, regardless of what others think of him , people listen when he speaks....Yes kudo's from around the world, try surviving on just kudos , how may of these nations will step up and help Canada if the US cuts trade with us....then we will see what kudo's is worth.... 2 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Huh, so you’re into de-growth. We’re probably going down that road eventually whether we like it or not, but I don’t think you’ll like it. Imagine constant deflation as demand drops for homes and products. The optimum growth rate long term keeps inflation in and around 1-2%. Ask Newfoundlanders how they feel about the fishing villages they grew up in turning into ghost towns, hospitals being closed, infrastructure being abandoned, options we once enjoyed in a thriving civilization disappearing. Sure and don't forget the effects of climate change. But yeah, we've had old fish plants and boats rotting all over the place where I live for years now. There's old logging yarders rusting away in the bush...abandoned booming grounds... All of it leaching pollutants into the environment. You haven't seen anything yet. But sure instead of everyone taking a big breath, and dealing with degrowth in a more rational science/evidence based planned out approach let's set our hair on fire while kicking and screaming our way into the future. That won't work I'm afraid. It helped get a little stuff off our chests I guess but that's about it. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The best reason for globalism is the moral panic, incessant whining and litany of grievances of populists. The last thing Carney needs to do is cater or cave to them. And as far as naivete and the environment go...a declining human population, or at least one with a smaller lighter footprint, is precisely what the world needs. What's rising amongst other powers is more of same sort of angst fuelling populism here. Take China for example. Death of a superpower: is China facing a decade of decline? For the first time in 60 years, China’s population has fallen – leading to concerns about its superpower status ........... show me a successful populist and I'll show you an individual who's gifted generating the emotion of fear. Fear, (love not in the abstract notwithstanding), is the greatest of emotions. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 49 minutes ago, eyeball said: Fascist? Please, it's just nature taking it's natural inevitable course. You're taking it all way to fearfully and personally. It's really not that existential. "Don't worry. Nothing to see here"? Sorry. Making people so poor that they cant afford kids is monstrous. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, Legato said: Says the expert on effed up expectations. What are you expecting, a right-wing golden age? LMAO! It'll be the shortest golden age in history. 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: "Don't worry. Nothing to see here"? Sorry. Making people so poor that they cant afford kids is monstrous. Yes it is. You were warned about the perils of overpopulation decades ago. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure and don't forget the effects of climate change. But yeah, we've had old fish plants and boats rotting all over the place where I live for years now. There's old logging yarders rusting away in the bush...abandoned booming grounds... All of it leaching pollutants into the environment. You haven't seen anything yet. But sure instead of everyone taking a big breath, and dealing with degrowth in a more rational science/evidence based planned out approach let's set our hair on fire while kicking and screaming our way into the future. That won't work I'm afraid. It helped get a little stuff off our chests I guess but that's about it. Gruesome. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 26 minutes ago, eyeball said: What are you expecting, a right-wing golden age? LMAO! It'll be the shortest golden age in history. With the Liberals in power? That's some mighty stretch. The Carney has problems delivering a cold pizza. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 27 minutes ago, eyeball said: What are you expecting, a right-wing golden age? LMAO! It'll be the shortest golden age in history. Yes it is. You were warned about the perils of overpopulation decades ago. Overpopulation in...India. China perhaps still but... That would be...their fault. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 51 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Ask Newfoundlanders how they feel about the fishing villages they grew up in turning into ghost towns, hospitals being closed, infrastructure being abandoned, options we once enjoyed in a thriving civilization disappearing. This is early stage unplanned for unmitigated degrowth. The process has been underway for years. It's been happening right before your very eyes and you are oblivious to what it means. Canada's fishing industries on both coasts are like a cage full of dead and dying canaries in a coal mine. You epitomize precisely the old joke about frogs in boiling pots of water. BTW, research clearly shows frogs are actually smart enough to jump out of the pot - of course they're probably not distracted with a head full of nonsense about commies, pronouns, commies, insect farms, commies, vaccines, commies, white-replacement, commies, the MSM, commies, space lasers..... Did I mention commies? 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Overpopulation in...India. China perhaps still but... That would be...their fault. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, Legato said: With the Liberals in power? That's some mighty stretch. The Carney has problems delivering a cold pizza. He apparently has no problem with making the gap between rich and poor bigger. By the first quarter of 2025, Statistics Canada reported that the income gap reached its highest level ever recorded since data collection began in 1999. Where's the downside to Carney again? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: He apparently has no problem with making the gap between rich and poor bigger. By the first quarter of 2025, Statistics Canada reported that the income gap reached its highest level ever recorded since data collection began in 1999. Where's the downside to Carney again? Wrong question. Should be "Where's the upside"? Quote
Nationalist Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: Do you have a point with this? Or are you simply being silly? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Legato said: Wrong question. Should be "Where's the upside"? I just told you...greater economic disparity. Don't forget Carney's last job was in the wealth protection racket. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Do you have a point with this? Or are you simply being silly? Wow, I actually have to point out how small the world really is? Okay, I'll try. The world is a lot smaller than you imagine. It's also global, just like it's overpopulation. Am I getting thru to you at all? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, John Stone said: small contingent (12) of Can. Military to Greenland. If I was the CO on station at Thule AFB and I would issue bean bag rounds loaded first with orders to aim for the beaver’s crotch. Everyone else gets the Venezuela death ray. @Army Guy 4 hours ago, eyeball said: best reason for globalism is the moral panic, incessant whining and litany of grievances of populists Okay cannon fodder, maybe for you it was. 4 hours ago, eyeball said: a declining human population, or at least one with a smaller lighter footprint, is precisely what the world needs. Do you hug trees too, identify as planetsexual?? We’re steward of the Planet, meaning we tend to the garden not let it run rampant with pest and disease at the cost of human lives. 4 hours ago, eyeball said: superpower status China was never a super power. A regional power sure but not a super power. Tread lightly Canuck. 3 hours ago, herbie said: Oh Thank You USA for single handedly saving us from the Germans and the Japanese, then the Russians and the NDP in prosperous provinces. Have next year's Grey Cup. Yeah and you better be grateful or you’ll be 51st the next day. Edited January 21 by paxamericana Quote
paxamericana Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: civilization disappearing. With the only notable exception to all that. America. Quote
herbie Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 It only goes to show how proud Canadians are to have a literate rational thinker as leader instead of a petty whining a&&hole. I just can not believe the USA went from an intelligent speaker like Obama to the babbling dementia of Trump in only a few short years. Quote
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