herbie Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 The Imbecile JD Vance tells us Denmark doesn't spend enough to defend Greenland from Chinese and Russian missiles.Quite and imagination and almost as warped as his Boss's. I wa unaware China gave enough of a shit about Greenland to target it with even one long range missile. Or that there's anything worth Russia blowing up besides the US missiles. As there's nothing else there but ice. gravel and s few tiny towns there's nothing else to blow up. Or is he implying that Denmark should pay for the defence of US bases? That could be the next NATO policy the beancounter Trump tries to scam his allies with, 1 Quote
cougar Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 13 hours ago, robosmith said: Russia clearly want to steal Ukraine's resources; esp the huge gas reserves off the Southern coast. You really think they are in Ukraine for their gas reserves???? Russia has plenty of oil and gas as it is! Russia is in Ukraine as a result of the Ukrainian government mistreating and killing some 17,000 Russians on their territory and their attempt to join NATO, which would have brought new military bases closer to Russia. The West had an agreement with Russia which they did not honor and continued to move in on it. As for the States , they have been war mongering for decades - I am beginning to think their success is only due to intimidation tactics and the stealing of foreign resources or getting them at bargain prices. The way things are going I would have recommended the following changes: 1. Every country should stop accepting American citizens on its land. 2. Every country should stop accepting US dollars as a form of payment I think this would get the job done quickly. Quote
cougar Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 4 hours ago, herbie said: The Imbecile JD Vance tells us Denmark doesn't spend enough to defend Greenland from Chinese and Russian missiles.Quite and imagination and almost as warped as his Boss's. When they elect a ******, next thing you see is he will surround himself with imbeciles only. Looking at that unprovoked shooting of a peaceful protester in her vehicle by an ICE agent and how everyone around Trump immediately labeled her a terrorists , I can't believe anyone in the States can still live in the country! The stench is overwhelming and every day their elephant craps a new large hot pile. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 48 minutes ago, cougar said: ...The way things are going I would have recommended the following changes: 1. Every country should stop accepting American citizens on its land. This reminds me of a famous quote by Secretary of State Dean Rusk to President Charles de Gaulle: Quote As usual when he crossed swords with de Gaulle, Rusk had difficulty. De Gaulle took the further step in 1967 of pulling France entirely out of the military arm of NATO, and when he told Rusk to his face that he wanted "every American soldier out of France," Rusk's anger and impatience boiled over, "Does that include the dead Americans in the military cemeteries as well?" he asked. De Gaulle fell silent, and Rusk felt a measure of satisfaction that he had at last gotten in one good lick at de Gaulle. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 On 1/8/2026 at 11:15 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: No luck required...the "world" (especially NATO deadbeat Canada) values the knuckle-dragging devil it knows far more than the unknown alternatives. No country more than Canada has hitched itself to the fortunes and foibles of the United States for so long, and it will continue to do so because Canada has no better choice. Not when the US is threatening to annex them. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 54 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Not when the US is threatening to annex them. Self annexed...economically...militarily...culturally...etc. Why is the border still open ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Self annexed...economically...militarily...culturally...etc. Why is the border still open ? Definitely etc. We're also family...take my brother in Seattle for example. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 Denmark/Greenlanf has consistently allowed the USA to build bases, monitoring stations, even place nukes there. The economy is completely open market. But that's just not good enough for a greedy swine that can't see countries as anything more than real estate to be bought, sold. and pilfered. And he's surronded himself with lapdogs asking what right Denmark has to Greenland and statements that a land of ice, gravel and only 50,000 people isn't 'defending' itself from China when only the USA is threatening it. What's next? What right does Canada have to Baffin Island, or even Alberta FFS? There must be something extremely awful in those Epstein files for Trumpy to be acting out in every distasteful and dictatorial way possible. 1 1 Quote
User Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, herbie said: There must be something extremely awful in those Epstein files for Trumpy to be acting out in every distasteful and dictatorial way possible. I know! So awful that you guys covered for him the last 4 years! So... what were you hiding? 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 If China invades Greenland, would anyone here admit Trump was right? I don't know that China would do that. The fact that Trump is dead set on this is a message to the ChiComs; "I [Tump] ain't fùcking around." If I lived in Greenland, I would want the US to pay monthly dividends for the minerals and lease the land for the military bases. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
TreeBeard Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 On 1/8/2026 at 3:44 PM, TreeBeard said: Why does the USA need to control Greenland to manage the northern passage? Anyone? It can defend it now, with the help of NATO nations. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 @robosmith is wrong. America should liberate Greenland and their people from the yolk of colonial Danes. Quote
User Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Anyone? It can defend it now, with the help of NATO nations. How many people are you cowardly ignoring on this forum as you sit here saying "anyone?" LOL Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 6 hours ago, eyeball said: Definitely etc. We're also family...take my brother in Seattle for example. I've been railing against dual citizenship for a long time. Choose your loyalty and choose it wisely. If America invaded most of the fake Canadians would bounce back home. Maybe Trump is doing us a favor Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
TreeBeard Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 22 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I've been railing against dual citizenship for a long time. Choose your loyalty and choose it wisely. If America invaded most of the fake Canadians would bounce back home. Maybe Trump is doing us a favor The more people who call the world their home, the less likely they’ll be jingoistic nationalists. Americans who make Canada their home are much more likely to be loyal to Canada. There are reasons they left. I work with lots of American expats. They love Canada. Quote
robosmith Posted January 11 Author Report Posted January 11 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: @robosmith is wrong. America should liberate Greenland and their people from the yolk of colonial Danes. Sorry but ONE GUY never speaks for 60,000 residents, and Denmark clearly has a large investment in Greenland since they are still paying a sizeable chunk of operating costs.. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 59 minutes ago, robosmith said: Sorry but ONE GUY never speaks for 60,000 residents All it takes is for one person to speak the truth and the oppressive system will fall. You speak like a sheep. Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) Arguably with Greenland being p/o North America / Western Hemisphere, the Monroe Doctrine can be referenced quite easily. to wit........... The Monroe Doctrine is a U.S. foreign policy that opposes any foreign interference in the Western Hemisphere. Trump, although terrible at explanation, is correct in stating that Greenland is strategic and likely soon Russia will be testing the northern defense. No question China has designs on an arctic 'silk road'. Denmark is likely playing a weak hand regarding Greenland becoming a country - that is the purview of Greenland's Parliament. ........... a few speedbumps to accomplish this but the 57K (ha ha) population have shown they desire sovereignty? A country of 57K? Politically, it is a wedge issue ............. to be exploited. Denmark's control over Greenland could easily be interpreted as Colonialism. National instability is the squib to political change .....destabilize Greenland - leading to a referendum on 'separation' and go from there ......... used to be CIA 101 Edited January 12 by John Stone Quote
Barquentine Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) 22 minutes ago, John Stone said: Trump, although terrible at explanation, is correct in stating that Greenland is strategic and likely soon Russia will be testing the northern defense. The US already has Carte Blanche to install defence sites. Good for the US, good for NATO. This is about Rseources (minerals, etc...) Ocean control, and diversion (not hearing much about Epstein and affordability these days). Wag the dog! 22 minutes ago, John Stone said: No question China has designs on an arctic 'silk road'. Nothing wrong with trade routes, if that's all it is. Edited January 12 by Barquentine grammar Quote
Barquentine Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 21 minutes ago, John Stone said: Denmark's control over Greenland could easily be interpreted as Colonialism. Like US control over Hawaii. Britain's control over The Falklands, etc... Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Like US control over Hawaii. Britain's control over The Falklands, etc... Indeed. We're ALL interlopers if you go back far enough...................... 1 Quote
John Stone Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Barquentine said: The US already has Carte Blanche to install defence sites. Good for the US, good for NATO. This is about Rseources (minerals, etc...) Ocean control, and diversion (not hearing much about Epstein and affordability these days). Wag the dog! Nothing wrong with trade routes, if that's all it is. ............ far more to do with geo-economics .......................... which by extension translates to global leverage - hegemony. Edited January 12 by John Stone Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) Sen. Tillis (R) wants to know the same question as me…. Why does the USA need to invade Greenland to protect the Arctic when they can already do so. Anyone? Edited January 12 by TreeBeard Quote
Gaétan Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Tell the would‑be conquerors that Greenland is not theirs to seize. It does not belong to the island’s inhabitants, nor to any nation, and certainly not to kings or presidents drunk on power. Greenland belongs to the planet itself, as do all lands and regions. Citizens are mere administrators of the communities that live there, not owners of the soil. Any claim of possession is nothing but a fiction, a theft dressed up as sovereignty. No one has a legitimate right to appropriate territory — every attempt to do so is an act of arrogance against humanity and against the Earth Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 On 1/7/2026 at 1:39 AM, ironstone said: This search engine states that the US has had a military presence in Greenland since 1941. GPT-4o mini The United States has maintained a military presence in Greenland since 1941. This began during World War II when the U.S. established bases to secure its interests and protect against potential threats from Axis powers. Key Milestones: 1941: The U.S. and Denmark (then under German occupation) agreed on the establishment of a military presence. 1943: The U.S. built bases, notably Thule Air Base, which is still operational today and plays a significant role in American airborne early warning and missile defense systems. The military presence has evolved over the decades but has remained consistent since its inception during World War II. Russia and China's Interest in Greenland Both Russia and China are expressing interest in Greenland, primarily due to its strategic location and resource potential within the Arctic region. Russia's Perspective Geopolitical Strategy: Russia views Greenland as a critical area for expanding its influence in the Arctic. The country has been actively enhancing its military infrastructure in the region, which includes opening several military bases and restoring old Soviet installations. This military buildup coincides with growing concerns about NATO's activities in the Arctic. Now which of the superpowers would you prefer to have on Greenland? Who is suggesting that the US can’t expand its bases in Greenland? Very basic point for you: one does not have to invade another country to help protect it. The idea is so grossly outrageous, and dangerous to Canada, I’m genuinely mystified that any Canadian would support it. Miller got the population of Greenland wrong which wasn’t a great start in his colonial rant on CNN. Would he like to talk about the current price tags he would sell American states for? Alaska, Nebraska, maybe Rhode Island? Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
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