Greenland belongs to its people' Europe unites against Trump's Greenland Ambition

[paxamericana]

7 hours ago, Radiorum said:

 

Do you kill small animals, too?

Do not mistake compassion for goodness, it is not. Unbridled compassion is a tragic mistake. 

Edited January 18 by paxamericana

[BeaverFever]

17 hours ago, West said:

Left wingers have aligned themselves with China. No wonder they are kicking up a stink over Trump's offer to provide defense to Greenland.. they want China to have it. 

Sad

Greenland already has defence from USA and NATO, you clueless dipshit

[BeaverFever]

Prominent defense Youtuber Ryan MacBeth breaks down the disastrous consequences that would immediately unfold if US were to annex Greenland  

Unfortunately like so many Americans stuck in denial about the dire state of their country,  he thinks that the fact it would be so incredibly stupid and destructive to American interests means it won’t happen. He doesn’t recognize the extent  of Trump’s ignorance and depravity even though that clip of The Joker sums it up perfectly  This gets called out quite a bit in the YouTube comments  

 

 

Edited January 18 by BeaverFever

[Radiorum]

9 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Do not mistake compassion for goodness, it is not. Unbridled compassion is a tragic mistake. 

 

the complete absence of compassion is the greater tragedy. A lot of innocent people get hurt.

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Unfortunately like so many Americans stuck in denial about the dire state of their country,  he thinks that the fact it would be so incredibly stupid and destructive to American interests means it won’t happen. He doesn’t recognize the extent  of Trump’s ignorance and depravity even though that clip of The Joker sums it up perfectly  This gets called out quite a bit in the YouTube comments  

 

The problem with this thought is that you assume America needs NATO more than NATO needs America.  While it would be disadvantageous to have less allies, this assumes there is even a common enemy that requires NATO. That’s just no longer the case. The Soviets were defeated, China is in demographic collapse and one of the most exposed country to international sanctions to even maintain a semblance of unity. America has no rival, only liability. That’s all of you NATO deadbeat, a liability. 

Edited January 18 by paxamericana

[SpankyMcFarland]

Here’s Bessent parroting his master’s lines, fascism pure and simple. Another shameless thug. 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that European leaders would come to “understand” that American ownership of Greenland would be “best for Greenland, best for Europe and best for the United States.”

Bessent suggested that Europe’s security ties with the U.S. would eventually work in Trump’s favor. “The European leaders will come around,” Bessent said. “They need to be under the U.S. security umbrella.”

[SpankyMcFarland]

 

Trump is a seething bag of vanity, resentment and greed. To try and find strategic policy in his reflexive actions is a fool’s errand. Suffice to say, he is helping rather than countering China’s influence around the world. The crisis in Greenland is entirely of his making, a serious problem for America and Europe where none previously existed. 

Europe should respond with both stick and carrot. A big tax on the tech bros will bring them to the White House pronto. He can’t ignore them. They deserve it too. Couple that with a fleshed out alternative to Trump’s proposed piracy that gives America everything it can reasonably need.
 

 

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Greenland already has defence from USA and NATO, you clueless dipshit

What person here wants China to have Greenland? Hands up, please. I’m not seeing any hands, folks. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 1/6/2026 at 4:00 PM, Deluge said:

robomarx thinks Greenland should have secure borders, but the US should not have secure borders. 

It's why robomarx should be deported with the illegal aliens. 

The territorial integrity of both the USA and the Kingdom of Denmark, including Greenland, should be respected. I don’t see how any reasonable person can argue with that.

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I don’t see how any reasonable person can argue with that.

They can't. So they become unreasonable and conjure up invasive Chinese and Russian boogeyman to argue with instead.

To bad we don't have a Mouse That Roared to underscore the irreverent silliness gripping the geopolitically surreal world we currently inhabit.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The territorial integrity of both the USA and the Kingdom of Denmark, including Greenland, should be respected. I don’t see how any reasonable person can argue with that.

robomarx is not a reasonable person; neither is anyone else who opposes ICE. 

Edited January 18 by Deluge

[paxamericana]

10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Couple that with a fleshed out alternative to Trump’s proposed piracy that gives America everything it can reasonably need.

That’s the problem, America doesn’t need Europe, or as much as Europe needs America. This fact hasn’t dawned on many of you but it will. Russia is on the war path to conquer not just Ukraine but the entirety of Europe. Decades of European leeching on American security umbrella led us here. There’s no recovery for Europe, they are in terminal decline. The Germans aged out, they went from net contributors to the EU to now it’s net taker. How long will that last with the rest of EU? 

[ironstone]

On 1/10/2026 at 10:51 PM, robosmith said:

Sorry but ONE GUY never speaks for 60,000 residents, and Denmark clearly has a large investment in Greenland since they are still paying a sizeable chunk of operating costs..

I wonder why there are only 60,000 residents on Greenland?

https://www.arctictoday.com/denmarks-history-of-forced-birth-control-in-greenland/

 

1966–1970 — Campaign launched.
Danish health authorities begin the coil campaign. About half of fertile women and girls — some as young as 13 — receive IUDs, often without consent. Roughly 4,500 insertions are recorded in these first five years. Births in Greenland drop about 50% in the early 1970s.
1973 — Parental involvement eased.
Rules change so doctors in Greenland no longer must involve parents when advising girls 15–18 on birth control, a shift critics say enabled forced insertions.

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Yes, Denmark conducted a program of forced sterilization and contraception on Greenlandic women and girls, particularly between the 1960s and 1991, often without their consent. This campaign aimed to control population growth and has been described as systematic discrimination and a violation of human rights.

[BeaverFever]

Even in Fox News YouTube comments, which is usually just a den of MAGA trolls and bots, the opinions arw overwhelmingly opposed to annexing Greenland even when the Fox clip is supportive of it (and it often isn’t). And yet Trump and his minions in the White House continue to double down 

Over a decade ago, Obama was asked about how extreme the Tea Party radicals could possibly get.  He replied “eventually the fever has to break”.  Trump may finally bring that about. Between his destructive tariff policy that is ravaging the US economy and his rapid destruction of US political and economic leadership on the global stage, we might not only aee the Republican party gradually drift back from radical fringe, but countries like Canada finally have an opportunity to step out from America’s shadow and come into their own instead of being America’s little helper and feeding an economic system that disproportionately benefits USA. . 

[BeaverFever]

17 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I wonder why there are only 60,000 residents on Greenland?

https://www.arctictoday.com/denmarks-history-of-forced-birth-control-in-greenland/

 

1966–1970 — Campaign launched.
Danish health authorities begin the coil campaign. About half of fertile women and girls — some as young as 13 — receive IUDs, often without consent. Roughly 4,500 insertions are recorded in these first five years. Births in Greenland drop about 50% in the early 1970s.
1973 — Parental involvement eased.
Rules change so doctors in Greenland no longer must involve parents when advising girls 15–18 on birth control, a shift critics say enabled forced insertions.

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Yes, Denmark conducted a program of forced sterilization and contraception on Greenlandic women and girls, particularly between the 1960s and 1991, often without their consent. This campaign aimed to control population growth and has been described as systematic discrimination and a violation of human rights.

1) Dude even if what you posted is true it wouldn’t justify US annexation at all. The 2 have nothing to do with eachother

2) Since you repeatedly demonstrate you lack of knowledge on just about EVERY topic, we can assume you are completely unaware that USA had an even WORSE program for it’s indigenous people during that time. It wasn’t involuntary birth control it was involuntary STERILIZATION:

 

Sterilization of Native American women

See also: Compulsory sterilization in Canada

In the 1960s and 1970s, the Indian Health Service (IHS) and collaborating physicians sustained a practice of performing sterilizations on Native American women, in many cases without the free and informed consent of their patients. Tactics for sterilization included healthcare providers neglecting to tell women they were going to be sterilized and forms of coercion such as threatening to take away welfare or healthcare.^[1] In some cases, women were misled into believing that the sterilization procedure was reversible. In yet other cases, sterilization was performed without the adequate understanding and consent of the patient, including cases in which the procedure was performed on minors as young as 11 years old. The American eugenics movement set the foundations for the use of sterilization as a form of birth control, or a method to control populations of poor and minority women. This practice was widely seen in America throughout the early and middle decades of the 20th century. The compounding factor was that doctors tended to recommend sterilization to poor and minority women, where they would not have done so to a wealthier white patient.^[2] This trend of sterilization was seen widely amongst Native American populations. Many instances of abuse were documented throughout this practice. Following the abusive methods, the medical community often took an effort to mask their coercive tactics.^[3]

In 1976, a U.S. General Accountability Office (GAO) investigation found that four Indian Health Service areas were noncompliant with IHS policies regulating consent to sterilization.^[4]Inadequate consent forms were a recurring problem; the most common form did not record whether the elements of informed consent had been presented to the patient or what they were told prior to obtaining consent, and physician misunderstanding of IHS regulations was widespread.^[5] The investigation found that these four service areas sterilized 3,406 women between the years 1973 and 1976, including 36 cases where women under the age of 21 were sterilized despite a declared moratorium on these sterilizations.^[6]

Limitations of the GAO investigation were quickly noted. Senator James Abourezk pointed out that while even 3,406 sterilizations would represent a startling proportion of Native American women, this number was the result of a report which examined only four out of twelve IHS areas.^[7] Attempts to count the total number of sterilizations that happened during this period differ widely in their results. While the limited count by the GAO represents a minimum, studies have accused the IHS of sterilizing between 25 and 50% of Native American women from 1970 to 1976.^[8] Should the highest estimate be accurate, up to 70,000 women may have been sterilized over the period. In comparison, the rate of sterilization for white women over the same period was approximately 15%.^[1]
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_of_Native_American_women

[User]

17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Over a decade ago, Obama was asked about how extreme the Tea Party radicals could possibly get.

Tea Party?

They have not been relevent for for over a decade now. 

Like, do you even know anything about American politics at all?

Yeah, I remember those days, a bunch of "radicals" who actually peacefully protested wanting *GASP* to stop spending so much money in deficit/debt. I mean, I guess that is a pretty radical notion to ask for. 

 

[BeaverFever]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Tea Party?

They have not been relevent for for over a decade now. 

Like, do you even know anything about American politics at all?

Yeah, I remember those days, a bunch of "radicals" who actually peacefully protested wanting *GASP* to stop spending so much money in deficit/debt. I mean, I guess that is a pretty radical notion to ask for. 

 

DUDE. COME ON. Tea Party rebranded into MAGA. It’s the same clown car of uneducated boobs and conspiracy kooks with their misspelled signs and ZERO education or independent knowledge of the topics they rant about 

[ironstone]

15 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Dude even if what you posted is true it wouldn’t justify US annexation at all. The 2 have nothing to do with eachother

Denmark apologized for it so it's fair to assume it's true. I replied to that comment because there are in fact, very few people on Greenland...I just happened to learn about the forced sterilization program this morning.

Forced sterilization of women is not right, whether it was Denmark, the US, or Canada's new strategic partner, China(doing it to Uyghurs).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/09/25/denmark-apologizes-forced-contraception-sterilization-greenland/86340823007/

The contraception program is believed to have targeted thousands of Indigenous girls and women in the Arctic territory dating back to the 1960s.

For the record, I don't like how Trump is handling this. I understand why he wants it, but he should be more diplomatic in his approach.

Edited January 19 by ironstone

[User]

Just now, BeaverFever said:

DUDE. COME ON. Tea Party rebranded into MAGA. It’s the same clown car of uneducated boobs and conspiracy kooks with their misspelled signs and ZERO education or independent knowledge of the topics they rant about 

So, you really have no clue what you are talking about. 

 

[BeaverFever]

10 minutes ago, User said:

So, you really have no clue what you are talking about. 

 

I do but you clearly don’t. Tea Partiers didn’t get in a rocket ship and conveniently leave the planet when MAGA came around. What do you think happened to them?  They became the core constituency of the MAGA movement even if some of its few true believers in libertarianism and limited government like Rand Paul kept a distance. 

[User]

Just now, BeaverFever said:

I do but you clearly don’t. Tea Partiers didn’t get in a rocket ship and conveniently leave the planet when MAGA came around. What do you think happened to them?  They became the core constituency of the MAGA movement even if some of its few true believers in libertarianism and limited government like Rand Paul kept a distance. 

You are trying to link two movements that have very few overlapping priorities. It is not about where did they go, so they must now be MAGA, that is your bogus stretch of an assertion with no backing. 

The point remains, if it is MAGA you are talking about, talk about them... yet you keep bringing up Tea Party. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

11 hours ago, paxamericana said:

That’s the problem, America doesn’t need Europe, or as much as Europe needs America. This fact hasn’t dawned on many of you but it will. Russia is on the war path to conquer not just Ukraine but the entirety of Europe. Decades of European leeching on American security umbrella led us here. There’s no recovery for Europe, they are in terminal decline. The Germans aged out, they went from net contributors to the EU to now it’s net taker. How long will that last with the rest of EU? 

Russia is not able to beat a country that barely had an army a few years ago. As European manufacturing of military equipment ramps up, Putin is going to see his war machine progressively degraded. 

America will need every single friend it can find on this planet to contain China.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 19 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I wonder why there are only 60,000 residents on Greenland?

https://www.arctictoday.com/denmarks-history-of-forced-birth-control-in-greenland/

 

1966–1970 — Campaign launched.
Danish health authorities begin the coil campaign. About half of fertile women and girls — some as young as 13 — receive IUDs, often without consent. Roughly 4,500 insertions are recorded in these first five years. Births in Greenland drop about 50% in the early 1970s.
1973 — Parental involvement eased.
Rules change so doctors in Greenland no longer must involve parents when advising girls 15–18 on birth control, a shift critics say enabled forced insertions.

Search Assist

 

Yes, Denmark conducted a program of forced sterilization and contraception on Greenlandic women and girls, particularly between the 1960s and 1991, often without their consent. This campaign aimed to control population growth and has been described as systematic discrimination and a violation of human rights.

Are we Canadians in any position to cast stones on such a matter? Very bad things happened in the past in Greenland. That’s no excuse for colonialism now. 

18 hours ago, Deluge said:

robomarx is not a reasonable person; neither is anyone else who opposes ICE. 

That’s a little off-topic. 

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

That’s a little off-topic. 

Anti-ICE are also America last types, so it's obvious they also put Greenland ahead of their own country. 

[ironstone]

4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Are we Canadians in any position to cast stones on such a matter?

Canadians are among the most sanctimonious people on the planet, especially leftist Canadians.