Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[ExFlyer]

27 minutes ago, Legato said:

Why do you ....

 

 

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

"Yes, in Canada,...

 

 

OK.

[CdnFox]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

 

OK.

Glad you came around and realized you were wrong. Pretty petty of you to down airless when we provided you with accurate information as well as sources  

If anyone needed proof that your little down arrows are you having a hissy fit and being angry I think you just cleared any doubt away.  

So they will have to address this in the spring. And Elizabeth May is in the same boat as the NDP was in that they just lost a ton of face backing the liberals when everyone knew he was lying and now she has no choice but to go hard against the liberals or suffer the same fate as the NDP did and considering she's only one person left that basically means being wiped out.

The NDP is pretty much going to have to vote against the liberals next time, elizabeth may is pretty much going to have to, and the CPC is likely to. And at this point I sure as hell would not count on the block support, the block is very disturbed about what he did with that Alberta Accord. They're very concerned that BC's rights are getting ignored and that precedent is being set that a pipeline can be rammed through a province whether they like it or not.

Rumor is he's trying to run the liberals like a fortune 500 company without gaining consensus or taking other people and their views into account, and that is absolutely death unless you are extremely talented at politics. And he's just not that talented at politics

It may very well be that a number of his own caucus decide that it would be better if he were to fall and the conservatives get a minority government for 3 years or two and the liberals hold an actual real leadership race and pick someone that they like.

They were worried they would be wiped out under Justin but I think those fears are gone and they think they can retain most of their seats and keep the conservatives to a minority and then rebuild and come back with a majority with a leader they like

Carney knows this and that's why he's trying to get rid of as many ministers and such as he can.

This is the difference between someone who knows the job and someone who has never had experience with the job but pretends they did

[Shady]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Just giving you the proper information. You are welcome

Nope, makes sense s the budget is for the future year....

"

• Shift in timing: The federal budget will now be presented in the fall to align with a new budgetary cycle.
• Capital vs. operational spending: This new cycle will separate capital and operational spending.
  • Capital investments, such as those in housing and infrastructure, will be announced in the fall budget.
  • Day-to-day operational spending, such as transfers, social programs, and government salaries, will be addressed in other reports.
• Reason for change: This change is intended to provide a clearer picture of fiscal planning and allow the government to address both capital and operational expenditures more strategically. "

So they're going to release a budget 8 months into the fiscal year going forward?  Brilliant?  

What happened to all of Trudeau's "investments" over the last 10 years.  Regardless, if you just changed the regulatory process, you could make resource projects more profitable, and attract private investment instead of having to use tax money to "invest".

[ExFlyer]

38 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Glad 

OK

6 minutes ago, Shady said:

So they're going to release a budget 8 months into the fiscal year going forward?  Brilliant?  

What happened to all of Trudeau's "investments" over the last 10 years.  Regardless, if you just changed the regulatory process, you could make resource projects more profitable, and attract private investment instead of having to use tax money to "invest".

Who is Trudeau?

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Literally talking to yourself. That's pretty weird 

I'm talking to the pool members...

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

So they're going to release a budget 8 months into the fiscal year going forward?  Brilliant?  

What happened to all of Trudeau's "investments" over the last 10 years.  Regardless, if you just changed the regulatory process, you could make resource projects more profitable, and attract private investment instead of having to use tax money to "invest".

It's much easier to hide where the money went after you spent it

The problem with his big plan is that he can make that announcement but they're still going to have to be votes on money matters before that budget or he won't have the money to spend. And if the opposition says we're not authorizing anything till we see your budget he's going to have a problem.

But yes, you have to be liberal stupid to think that issuing a budget 3/4 of the way through the budget is anything other than dumb

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, Goddess said:

He just thinks it's having zero effect on citizens.

Where did I say that? Do I make up sh!t and tell you what you think?

 

18 hours ago, Goddess said:

He's straying dangerously from the Liberal narrative that the economy is great and that Canadians have never had it so good.

Who said that?

And yes, I'm a small l liberal, but I have voted Conservative lately. And if the Federal Conservatives ever get a sensible centrist leader, not that snivelling simp they have now, I might consider supporting them. 

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"In Canada, the number of women filing for bankruptcy has been increasing,"

Google search:

Men vs. Women Insolvency Statistics
The proportional breakdown of insolvencies between men and women has remained nearly even in recent years: 
2024: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 48%.
2023: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 49%.

[Moonbox]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Who said that?

It's a lot harder to debate an opponent on what they're actually saying, rather than the imaginary strawman these monkeys have on standby, don'cha know?  

Edited December 3, 2025 by Moonbox

[Legato]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Google search:

Men vs. Women Insolvency Statistics
The proportional breakdown of insolvencies between men and women has remained nearly even in recent years: 
2024: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 48%.
2023: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 49%.

Studies in countries like Canada and the UK show that the proportion of insolvency filings by women has been increasing, nearly reaching parity with men. This trend is primarily driven by systemic financial disadvantages and specific life circumstances that make managing debt more difficult for women, despite their generally lower debt levels than men. 

Key Findings on the Rise of Women's Insolvency

Narrowing the Gender Gap: In Canada, the percentage of consumer insolvencies filed by women increased from 42% in 2012 to approximately 49% by 2021-2024, closing the gap with men.

Lower Debt Threshold: Women often file for insolvency with significantly less total unsecured debt than men (e.g., $55,117 for women versus $66,247 for men in 2024 Canadian data), because their lower average income means the debt is a heavier burden.

Higher Risk of Financial Distress: Polling data indicates women are more likely than men to report being a small amount (e.g., $200) away from being unable to meet their monthly financial obligations. 

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Studies in countries like Canada and the UK show that the proportion of insolvency filings by women has been increasing, nearly reaching parity with men. This trend is primarily driven by systemic financial disadvantages and specific life circumstances that make managing debt more difficult for women, despite their generally lower debt levels than men. 

Key Findings on the Rise of Women's Insolvency

Narrowing the Gender Gap: In Canada, the percentage of consumer insolvencies filed by women increased from 42% in 2012 to approximately 49% by 2021-2024, closing the gap with men.

Lower Debt Threshold: Women often file for insolvency with significantly less total unsecured debt than men (e.g., $55,117 for women versus $66,247 for men in 2024 Canadian data), because their lower average income means the debt is a heavier burden.

Higher Risk of Financial Distress: Polling data indicates women are more likely than men to report being a small amount (e.g., $200) away from being unable to meet their monthly financial obligations. 

Thank you for this. 

My original point was simply that Canada's precarious financial position and tanking economy is affecting women and children here in Canada and maybe we should start spending more tax dollars on looking after our own and less on the handful (maybe?) of trans rice farmers in Viet Nam.

Barky, the chihuahua, was just trying to distract from that point.

He doesn't really care if Canadian women and children are struggling.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Google search:

Men vs. Women Insolvency Statistics
The proportional breakdown of insolvencies between men and women has remained nearly even in recent years: 
2024: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 48%.
2023: Men accounted for 51% of insolvencies, and women accounted for 49%.

Ahhh and no link.  What  a surprise. 

Made it up did you?

Here's a real search with links. 

Yes, data indicates that the share of consumer insolvency filings by women in 

Canada

 has been increasing, reaching its largest recorded percentage in recent years. 

While the total volume of consumer insolvencies fluctuates with economic conditions (total filings surged in 2024 to a 15-year high), the proportion of those insolvencies attributed to women has steadily grown over the past decade. 

 

women bankruptcy in canada increasing - Google Search

 

Sorry kid. You're wrong again. No wonder you didn't want to post the link. 

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

It's a lot harder to debate an opponent on what they're actually saying, rather than the imaginary strawman these monkeys have on standby, don'cha know?  

Awww  moonbox,  is @Goddess making you angry with facts now too? LOL

As usual you contribute nothing, you just show up to either attack me or defend the liberals, the latter in this case it would seem. 

Pathetic.  Hey, how's those math lessons going?  

[Moonbox]

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As usual you contribute nothing, you just show up to either attack me or defend the liberals

As usual, you contribute nothing but clueless hot takes and bullshitting, followed by endless and fragile emotional ranting. 

Go outside.  Spending all day every day insulting and raging at people on the internet is not good for you.  

This is a mental health crisis playing out in real-time:

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

As usual, you contribute nothing but clueless hot takes and bullshitting,

I posted facts and links... I made an argument and defended it with reason and logic.

You jumped in and whined and cried like your diaper was full  

And this happens every single time you get your ass handed to you by me in a thread, you come on all the other threads and start acting like a buthurt loser.

What a sad little life you must lead to have no better reason to come here than to stink up the place  

Oh but I'm sure that your failures in life are definitely due to my postcount. There's no doubt about that.  

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

As usual, you contribute nothing but clueless hot takes and bullshitting, followed by endless and fragile emotional ranting. 

Go outside.  Spending all day every day insulting and raging at people on the internet is not good for you.  

This is a mental health crisis playing out in real-time:

I've been here literally 10 times longer in terms of years. Has he beat me in number of posts yet?  😂

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I've been here literally 10 times longer in terms of years. Has he beat me in number of posts yet?  😂

The fact that you have nothing intelligent to say doesn't mean that others don't  

And I love that you're still too much of a coward to address me directly, as I said in another post I can at least respect moon box in that respect compared to you

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, Goddess said:

trans rice farmers in Viet Nam.

Fantasy of yours?

 

20 hours ago, Goddess said:

He doesn't really care if Canadian women and children are struggling.

Again, quote where I said anything like that. Oh, wait: you can't. As usual you just make sh!t up and ascribe thoughts to others to make yourself sound good. (It ain't working).

Did CdnFoxnetwork mentor you?

[Moonbox]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You jumped in and whined and cried like your diaper was full  

By ridiculing your objective and observable lack of anything going on in your life beyond pounding furiously on your keyboard?  OKAY!?  🙃

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh but I'm sure that your failures in life are definitely due to my postcount. There's no doubt about that.

Your post count is objective evidence of your failure in life.  🤣  You can project and lash out all you want, but this paints on objective, measurable picture:  

That's almost 1100 posts a month, or roughly 36 posts a day. 🤣  From this, we can estimate a minimum amount for the time you've wasted desperately seeking attention and relevance here:

FROM CHAT GPT:

Allowing for 8 hours of sleep per day, that means you've spent roughly 22% of your waking hours puking all over this forum since you joined.  How much of your free time did that take up, I wonder, when we account for activities required just for keeping yourself alive?  Let's ask chatgpt again:

YIKES!  

Should we ask chatgpt if this is healthy???

 

TLDR:  You really need to touch grass (or snow).  

Edited December 4, 2025 by Moonbox

[SpankyMcFarland]

Carney is markedly different from JT in policy terms. Some Liberals on the left of the party would probably feel more at home in the NDP or Greens these days but will they jump? And how keen are the Tories on facing the public? We’re in uncharted territory as a nation, trying to find a new role in the world as America turns away from us. Party politics seems a little petty in such circumstances. 

[Goddess]

Saw this post on "X" today:

Canada Torched $200 Million on a Pass Most Families Will Never Touch 

Today I can’t even pretend to laugh, because the reality behind it is infuriating. Canada proudly announces its newest “gift” to the nation: the Canada Strong Pass. “Free” parks. “Free” museums. VIA Rail discounts. And the crown jewel—5 or 6 weeks of ‘free’ Banff access. As if families across the country are sitting around thinking, “Wow, you know what I really need? A temporary discount on a vacation I can’t afford.”

It’s insulting. Not just out of touch—borderline delusional.

The Real Costs They Hope You Don’t Look At

Let’s talk about an actual family of four in Grande Prairie trying to use this “free” holiday:

•Fuel: $190–$230

•Food: $470–$750

•Hotel: $500–$900

•Parking/shuttles: $40–$100

Total: $1,200–$1,980

Savings from the pass? $22.

 

Twenty. Two. Dollars.

That’s not a benefit. It’s a slap in the face. It’s the government tossing you pocket lint and acting like they paid your rent. A 1% “discount” masquerading as national generosity. A PR stunt pretending to be policy. A shiny distraction from problems they can’t—or won’t—actually address.

And Here’s Where the Anger Really Kicks In

With the same $200 million, Canada could fund:

•Hundreds of doctors

•Thousands of nurses

•Thousands of teachers

For an entire year. Real people. Doing real work. Solving real problems. Serving real communities. But instead? We get a pass most Canadians will never use, because they can’t afford the surrounding costs just to get there. It’s like giving someone drowning a coupon for swimming lessons.

Useless. Tone-deaf. Performative.

We’re not tackling affordability—we’re painting over it with a vacation brochure. We’re not helping families stretch their budgets—we’re giving them access to places they have no financial pathway to reach.

We’re not investing in health care or education—we’re burning money on optics. And then acting like we should all be grateful for it.

This Isn’t Policy

This is government theatre at its most detached. It’s leadership that’s forgotten what life actually costs. Leadership convinced that a postcard solution solves a cost-of-living crisis.

Meanwhile: Groceries are skyrocketing. Rent is suffocating. Heating is brutal. Kids are eating less nutritious food because parents can’t afford healthy options. People are waiting months—months—to see a doctor. Teachers are stretched to the breaking point.

And instead of addressing any of that? We get a 1% discount on a $1,500 trip. A piece of paper that doesn’t put food on the table. Doesn’t shorten hospital waits. Doesn’t keep the heat on. Doesn’t ease a single real burden.

It’s not just bad policy. It’s a fundamental misread of what Canadians actually face every single day. A free pass to Banff is not support. It’s not relief. It’s not help.

It’s a joke.

A distraction.

A shiny object dangled in front of a population exhausted from carrying the weight of rising costs while their leaders congratulate themselves for “helping.” Canadians don’t need postcards. They don’t need press releases. They don’t need commemorative passes. They need tangible, meaningful, real-world support.

And the fact that $200 million was spent on anything but that? That’s the part that cuts deepest.

[Goddess]

And this one from "Melanie in Saskatchewan".  She's a good writer, you should follow her if you're on "X".

Carney’s Liberals: From Bay Street Boardrooms to National Betrayal. Canadians, wake up.

The #CarneyLiberals are not just stumbling through another week of governance; they are ransacking the country with a brazenness that would make even Justin Trudeau blush.

This is not leadership. This is looting, plain and simple, dressed up in the pinstripes of a former central banker who parachuted into power promising elbows-up grit but delivering nothing but elbows-deep corruption.

Mark Carney, the self-proclaimed saviour who swapped his Goldman Sachs Rolodex for 24 Sussex, has turned #Parliament into his personal piggy bank, and we are all paying the interest. Let's start with the elephant in the boardroom: that $500 million "green steel" subsidy to

@AlgomaSteelInc

in Sault Ste. Marie. The entire project depends on a massive new electricity feed to power electric-arc furnaces that are supposed to replace coal. Where is that power coming from? A cluster of wind farms in Prince Township, Nova Scotia, owned and operated by none other than Brookfield Renewable Partners, the same #Brookfield where

@MarkJCarney

still holds roughly $6 million in unexercised stock options and performance units that vest based on Brookfield's share price and renewable-energy profits. In other words, every kilowatt-hour #Algoma buys from those turbines flows straight to Carney's personal bottom line.

Taxpayers fund the subsidy, Algoma gets the grant, Brookfield gets the long-term power contract and the carbon credits, Carney's own regulations created, and the prime minister's brokerage account gets fatter. Meanwhile, Algoma is already preparing to lay off half its remaining workforce. This is the most blatant act of self-dealing we have seen from a sitting prime minister in modern history. If

@PierrePoilievretried to steer a pipeline contract to a company that owed him millions, the

@CBC would run a week-long special. With Carney, they call it "visionary industrial policy."

And do not even get me started on the Ukraine cash grab. Just as a $100 million #corruption scandal erupts in #Kyiv, forcing two cabinet ministers to resign amid oligarchs laundering funds, including to #Russia , what does Foreign Affairs Minister

@AnitaAnandMP

do? She jets off to #NATO and pledges another $235 million of OUR money, pushing for Ukraine's membership like it's a loyalty card at Tim Hortons. Nearly $900 million in six months, folks, while our #veterans wait months for benefits and families scrape by on #foodbanks. Anita Anand calls it an "investment," but it's #extortion dressed as aid. Why the rush to reward thieves? Because the #Liberals are neck-deep in this swamp, using #Canadian generosity as cover for their globalist buddies. Trudeau started the fire; Carney is pouring gasoline, all while lecturing us on sacrifices. Hypocrisy does not even begin to cover it. Then there is the Alberta #MOU, a pragmatic move that finally unlocks pipelines and the fossil fuel POTENTIAL to shield us from Trump's tariffs and boost energy independence, something long overdue in this resource-rich nation. But watch Carney's #hypocrisy shine through like a boardroom spotlight. This is the same man who sermonized endlessly about green transitions during his campaign, wooing voters with promises of climate action that now evaporate faster than a Liberal surplus. He personally assured Green Party leader

@ElizabethMay

that her support for his budget would buy iron-clad environmental protections. This week May went public with her shock and dismay, openly admitting that propping up Carney's budget was a #GraveMistake and that he broke his word the moment the votes were counted. Too bad she did not listen to the voters who warned her from the start. The voters who have taken the time to research Mark Carney discovering his dirty little secrets. As of right now, no one can credibly say Elizabeth May has good judgement skills. Former Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault bolted in disgust, nine Liberal MPs are grumbling about betrayal, and even Trudeau loyalists in caucus are whispering that their Bay Street boss is unraveling. Liberal insiders spill that Carney runs government like a Fortune 500 conglomerate, slashing public servants while padding executive perks, treating Canada as just another asset to flip for profit.

This is not pragmatism; it is pure duplicity, a cave-in to reality that exposes Carney's campaign pledges as hollow sales pitches. How does PSAC executives feel now? He did not just pivot; he sold out his own script, proving Liberals are weather vanes spinning for personal gain, costing Canadians jobs, security, and trust in the process. Fiscal insanity ties it all together. Carney's budget, that $78 billion deficit bomb, promises infrastructure miracles while slashing public servants and ignoring housing hell. It is Trudeau 2.0, but with fancier spreadsheets and zero accountability. Productivity craters, GDP stutters negative, and yet Carney struts like Canada's G7 champ. Newsflash, Mark: We are the laggards, not the leaders, and your Bay Street buddies are laughing as they short the loonie. This cabal of elites thinks Canadians are too busy surviving to notice. Wrong. From Brookfield wind-farm windfalls to Ukraine slush funds, the Carney Liberals embody everything rotten in #Ottawa: entitlement, enrichment, and endless excuses. #Hypocrisy and #Incompetence like this pi$$ me off royally, and it has cost Canadians everything, from soaring costs and barren dinner tables to shattered dreams and broken families.

As much as some Canadians may disagree or hate to hear it, Pierre Poilievre gets it right, day after day in Question Period, demanding answers Carney literally flees from like a bad audit.

It is time to end this farce. Conservatives stand ready to restore sanity, axe the waste, and put Canada first, not some globalist Rolodex. Carney, your options are running out. Pack your bags for London. The real work of cleaning house needs to start now.

Melanie in Saskatchewan

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

By ridiculing your objective and observable lack of anything going on in your life beyond pounding furiously on your keyboard?  OKAY!?  🙃Your post count is objective evidence of your

Hooolleeeyy triggered batman  

Calm down and change your diapers kiddo.  

LOL it shouldn't surprise me that you got the math wrong  

We've been through this before. Posts on this forum takes me about an hour. I spend about 2 hours a day perusing the forum, I'm not always in the process of replying after all. Many of the post, like when I'm laughing at X flyer, take me a few seconds   I can get off 30 posts in some days just writing 3 or 4 word replies to his hissy fits  

I understand that you type with two fingers and think with one brain cell but i'm a little more capable   

And once again you are so desperate and angry and furious that you've lost a discussion and been proven to be foolish that all you could do is rage against me and my postcount that you can't match because you are slow and stupid but that is easy for me because I am neither  

"I THINK DIS!!!!" "oh, well that's wrong because a b and c" "WAAATTT!!!  YOU POST COUNT HIGH DAT WHY ME WRONG!!"   LOLOLOL

No matter how pathetic you think I might be, you somehow managed to be even more pathetic yourself

[taxme]

On 10/21/2025 at 4:54 PM, blackbird said:

Both the Conservatives and the Bloc are warning the government that they have certain demands for the Liberal's budget coming out in early November.  If these demands are not met, there is a possibility that the budget would be defeated which means the government falls and an election must be held.

This could be good news if the Conservatives win.  The Conservatives may abandon the no more pipelines law, the tanker ban, and other things that are keeping Canada from building a pipeline to the BC north coast and from becoming an energy superpower.  More pipelines could bring in billions of dollars to help fight the federal deficit and have more money for various government priorities.  It could create thousands of jobs for Canadians.  Carney is not willing to do it.  Carney could save his government if he would agree to some central Conservative demands such as making Canada an energy superpower and keeping the deficit down, but I don't see any sign of it happening.

Liberals 'worry' over potential election after Bloc, Conservative budget demands

 

It ain't going to happen anytime soon, pardner. The Bloc and the NDP political party's will always give the lieberals the backing that they need to do what they want to do. The Bloc stands to get more money from the lieberals and not the conservatives. Pipelines being built or not built means nothing to the separatist Bloc party. They will still get billions of tax dollars from Alberta with or without any pipelines being built. 

And besides, Marx Carnage has already said that it will now be up to the BC Marxist government to approve the building of the pipelines, and BC has already said that there will be no pipelines built in BC and the NDP have the backing of the lazy and useless Indians that never have offered anything to help make Canada great. Just saying. 

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, taxme said:

It ain't going to happen anytime soon, pardner. The Bloc and the NDP political party's will always give the lieberals the backing that they need to do what they want to do. The Bloc stands to get more money from the lieberals and not the conservatives. Pipelines being built or not built means nothing to the separatist Bloc party. They will still get billions of tax dollars from Alberta with or without any pipelines being built. 

And besides, Marx Carnage has already said that it will now be up to the BC Marxist government to approve the building of the pipelines, and BC has already said that there will be no pipelines built in BC and the NDP have the backing of the lazy and useless Indians that never have offered anything to help make Canada great. Just saying. 

I don't know that the NDP is going to be so quick after their last shellacking. They know they almost got wiped out entirely as a party because they followed the liberals.

[taxme]

Just now, CdnFox said:

I don't know that the NDP is going to be so quick after their last shellacking. They know they almost got wiped out entirely as a party because they followed the liberals.

The NDP will never learn any lessons. They are communists thru and thru. They despise progress especially here in BC. The NDP despise the people of BC to own private property and they then went and decided to give the lazy corrupt Native Indians pretty much full control over BC land and what can be built on B land. 

Right now, anyone who owns property in BC are now up in the air because when their mortgages roll around for renewal it is believed that they will not be able to get new mortgages from their banks because the land is now considered owned by the Indians here in BC. There are now two owners of one property.

This is what the NDP communist government has done too property owners here in BC. The NDP government gave it to them up their azzes. But you can be sure that the bunch of NDP communist electors, especially those living on Marxist Vancouver Island, will no doubt be voting for the same NDP communist rats and rascals at the next election here in BC.

The NDP have nothing to worry about losing an election here in BC because they know that they more than likely will get voted back in again. Can't allow those rightwing Nazi racists BC Conservative party people in power. 

Believe it or not. 🙄