Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural?

[Legato]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Only imbeciles use the phrase "the sky is falling."

Thanks for the complement.

[eyeball]

54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Why can't you just be honest and admit that all your panic and imposition are based on fear and inaccurate reporting?

Because my concern is based on the opposite of that.

Why can't you be honest and admit you don't give a fùck because it sticks it to libbies - and truth be told hard-boiled conservative indifference to AGW is a real crisis. You don't seem to get or care how you only make it easier for most governments everywhere left, right and center to do little more than pay lip service to it. They cave everytime.

There will come a day when you people will be blaming the left for not having been more alarmed.

Edited August 23, 2025 by eyeball

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Because my concern is based on the opposite of that.

Why can't you be honest and admit you don't give a fùck because it sticks it to libbies - and truth be told hard-boiled conservative indifference to AGW is a real crisis. You don't seem to get or care how you only make it easier for most governments everywhere left, right and center to do little more than pay lip service to it. They cave everytime.

There will come a day when you people will be blaming the left for not having been more alarmed.

"AHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!"

Isn't it your beddy-buy time Sweetie?

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 8/16/2025 at 3:03 PM, Deluge said:

I see the risk in not wearing a seat belt. 

I don't see the risk in ignoring the climate hysterics. 

Do you live in Canada? 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Thanks for the complement.

I think you may mean compliment. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/complement-and-compliment-usage-difference

 

 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ask @Michael Hardner what's been "proven".

You ask him. I already know because I read the JOURNALS.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Because that would not be true.

I see the temperature readings.

I question the criticality, the solutions employed and the reporting.

Why can't you just be honest and admit that all your panic and imposition are based on fear and inaccurate reporting?

PROVE "inaccurate reporting." Since YOU don't read the climate science JOURNALS, YOU have NO IDEA.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I think you may mean compliment. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/complement-and-compliment-usage-difference

 

 

No it's not I'm speaking to robo. But you wouldn't understand.

[Deluge]

10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Do you live in Canada? 

Nope. Why do you ask? Is Canada in some kind of climate trouble?

Edited August 23, 2025 by Deluge

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

You ask him. I already know because I read the JOURNALS.

PROVE "inaccurate reporting." Since YOU don't read the climate science JOURNALS, YOU have NO IDEA.

I've already hashed this out with Mike. Perhaps you weren't paying attention. So just for you, Muffin.

https://www.hoover.org/research/flawed-climate-models

And...

https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/why-do-climate-models-keep-getting-it-wrong/

These are just a couple of the plentiful refutations of the existing doom's day models.

Now...since you insist that punishing the population with inflationary chickenshit...prove this chickenshit is necessary. 

[Goddess]

On 8/21/2025 at 12:54 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Paid by an uncountable number of governments, research groups, universities, private interests. And this is across the globe. 

2. If they find there's no crisis, they become instantly famous and their reputation soars. 

3. Based on what? Where did you hear this? I've only seen it asserted by people who think climate change as a hoax.  Only a few scientists have tried to say this, and I don't believe it. 

4. What you don't understand is that I'm the one who decides what my time is worth. If I thought you might change your mind, or I might from watching this, then I would give it an hour. Hour. Unfortunately, I've already wasted too many hours on YouTube, cranks, and discussing with people on here who wouldn't never believe that it's not a grand conspiracy. You're a nice lady but I'm not giving You that time.

Well, I did read your link in your signature and it doesn't answer the points made in the YouTube.

The YouTube addresses the massive amounts of dollars going into climate research and the corruption inherent in the process.

So I guess if you only want others to read and address the info you provide, without giving them the same effort, then there's nothing to discuss.

Enjoy your echo chamber.

[Goddess]

On 8/22/2025 at 5:40 PM, robosmith said:

No, I don't have to prove what the EXPERTS have determined.

And your IGNORANCE means your DEMANDS mean NOTHING.

You don't even understand what has been proven nor HOW.

Nope.

You're the one making extreme claims and proposing extreme solutions that are bankrupting everyone but the billionaires.

The onus is on YOU to prove it.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Well, I did read your link in your signature and it doesn't answer the points made in the YouTube.

The YouTube addresses the massive amounts of dollars going into climate research and the corruption inherent in the process.

So I guess if you only want others to read and address the info you provide, without giving them the same effort, then there's nothing to discuss.

Enjoy your echo chamber.

No no. You're engaging with me. 

I'm sure it only took you a few minutes to read my points. As I recall your YouTube was a very long. 

Let me ask you about your point here: what aspect of my argument is open to corruption, I.e. inherent corruption?

To add: A poster recently commented on my acknowledgment that institutions aren't completely trustworthy.  He used that acknowledgment as a point against academic climate science.

But it's not enough to say something is corrupt, You have to show how that specifically manifested in some effect. Or some result.

Edited August 24, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm sure it only took you a few minutes to read my points.

I assure you, I spent a pretty fair amount of time on your points.  And the points of others.

Not the same amount of time I've spent researching medical studies and reading papers by virologists, epidemiologists, vaccinologists, etc for the covid scam.  But yes, plenty of time.

Here's my thing - both covid and climate are areas where insane amounts of money have been spent, to the point of almost no return for the world's economies.  To the point of harm being done.

With covid, the massive amount of money spent, the overreaction, the models that vastly overestimated and then were used to justify the massive overreaction, the scare tactics, the coercion, the falsification of data, the vicious censoring of anyone who questions or disagrees.....all of it.....I see the same thing happening with climate.

Both are more than worthy of more than just a cursory glance.  The (over?)reactions to climate will have massive implications, probably more so than the covid overreactions.

As I said before - you are the one making extreme claims and proposing extreme solutions.

The onus is on YOU to prove your points.

At this point in time - I believe you've been "had".  Like you were with covid.

Edited August 24, 2025 by Goddess

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Not the same amount of time I've spent researching medical studies and reading papers by virologists, epidemiologists, vaccinologists, etc for the covid scam.  But yes, plenty of time.

Here's my thing - both covid and climate are areas where insane amounts of money have been spent, to the point of almost no return for the world's economies.  To the point of harm being done.

How sad it must be- believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

-Neil DeGrasse Tyson

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

How sad it must be- believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

-Neil DeGrasse Tyson

This is exactly what I'm talking about the absolute dehumanization of anyone who questions.  This is a huge red flag to me.

The accusation that I follow Trump is false, you can check any of my posts on here.

The man has not written any medical or climate papers/studies.  So why go there?

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about the absolute dehumanization of anyone who questions.  This is a huge red flag to me.

The accusation that I follow Trump is false, you can check any of my posts on here.

The man has not written any medical or climate papers/studies.  So why go there?

You were also complaining of the 'authoritarian' measures in NS and NB because of tinder dry forests. 

I go there because you and many others who have chose to go to the far right side and believe that most things now are anti-government, anti-science, and anti-'woke'.  Same general Trump-like comments that have been the rallying cries for your group for the last 10 years.  That's why.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You were also complaining of the 'authoritarian' measures in NS and NB because of tinder dry forests. 

I go there because you and many others who have chose to go to the far right side and believe that most things now are anti-government, anti-science, and anti-'woke'.  Same general Trump-like comments that have been the rallying cries for your group for the last 10 years.  That's why.

@Goddess

Not many climate-religious can make a post without invoking Orangemanbad. He's the lynchpin to every argument. 

As to "the science"...it was warped and wrong in so many ways about The Rona...and it's very much the same for the climate religion.

All hijacked by politicians.

[LinkSoul60]

Just now, Nationalist said:

@Goddess

Not many climate-religious can make a post without invoking Orangemanbad. He's the lynchpin to every argument. 

As to "the science"...it was warped and wrong in so many ways about The Rona...and it's very much the same for the climate religion.

All hijacked by politicians.

He is where this generally started....   drill baby drill, clean coal (maybe the biggest laugh ever), ugly windmills that kill birds, solar panels that doesn't work when the suns not out, etc, etc....

A bunch of sh*t from a sh*tty president that a bunch of fools have taken the narrative and ran with it.  

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

a bunch of fools have taken the narrative and ran with it.

Like the fools who bought these narratives?

• Even though we've known about natural immunity since like 400 BC, it now no longer exists.
• The virus knows if you're sitting or standing in a restaurant.
• Wear a mask at all times and install millions of dollars of plastic barriers - particulate scientists are kooks who know nothing.
• You can catch the virus buying nails at your local mom & pop hardware store, but not at Home Depot.
• "Two weeks to stop the spread"
• Cases = Death sentences.
• Directional arrows on floors.
• Unvaccinated people who already had covid should be banned and shunned, jailed/fined/killed andhave their children taken away.
• Billions of $$ spent on vaccines and ventilators that all went into the garbage.
• Listening to "experts" who hadn't touched a patient in decades over front-line doctors.
• Everyone is at risk of death.
• Ivermectin is horsepaste and only for animals.
• No medication has EVER been used for anything other than its intended purpose.
• The prime medical directive of NEVER experimenting on pregnant women - out the window, F*&K medical ethics.
• My vaccine isn't working because you didn't take your's.
• If you take this vaccine, the virus "stops with you."

Ya, I know exactly what you mean. 🙄

STFU

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

He is where this generally started....   drill baby drill, clean coal (maybe the biggest laugh ever), ugly windmills that kill birds, solar panels that doesn't work when the suns not out, etc, etc....

A bunch of sh*t from a sh*tty president that a bunch of fools have taken the narrative and ran with it.  

No he's not. This started and Trump recognized it. That's one of the major issues you Lonnie Tunes have. It's organic. We see you with much more clarity now thanks to the internet. It produces an effect similar to...

'Wait what? These experts the climate religious constantly toss about...dont really know if man is causing global warming? But the Congress Woman  just said we have 10 years left. The New York Times said so.

Wait...how much is this costing?'

That's only one of a myriad of reasons why Liberal ideals are being rejected.

The cat's outta the bag...

[LinkSoul60]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Like the fools who bought these narratives?

• Even though we've known about natural immunity since like 400 BC, it now no longer exists.
• The virus knows if you're sitting or standing in a restaurant.
• Wear a mask at all times and install millions of dollars of plastic barriers - particulate scientists are kooks who know nothing.
• You can catch the virus buying nails at your local mom & pop hardware store, but not at Home Depot.
• "Two weeks to stop the spread"
• Cases = Death sentences.
• Directional arrows on floors.
• Unvaccinated people who already had covid should be banned and shunned, jailed/fined/killed andhave their children taken away.
• Billions of $$ spent on vaccines and ventilators that all went into the garbage.
• Listening to "experts" who hadn't touched a patient in decades over front-line doctors.
• Everyone is at risk of death.
• Ivermectin is horsepaste and only for animals.
• No medication has EVER been used for anything other than its intended purpose.
• The prime medical directive of NEVER experimenting on pregnant women - out the window, F*&K medical ethics.
• My vaccine isn't working because you didn't take your's.
• If you take this vaccine, the virus "stops with you."

Ya, I know exactly what you mean. 🙄

STFU

The "china' virus

Injecting bleach to make it go away

Vaccines don't work

Only ~1.2M US deaths from covid

Only ~60K Canadian deaths from covid 

Only ~7M world wide deaths from covid

Another fool who lets someone think for them.  Try thinking for yourself....

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Let me ask you about your point here: what aspect of my argument is open to corruption, I.e. inherent corruption?

It's covered in the video, if you care to have a look.  Start at about 55:00 (I think 55:15 or 55:16, those seconds spent understanding the other side are sooooo precious to you.)

That's just a start.  There are plenty of censored, defunded scientists who have testified to the corruption.

You are free to dismiss them out of hand, of course.

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

No he's not. This started and Trump recognized it. That's one of the major issues you Lonnie Tunes have. It's organic. We see you with much more clarity now thanks to the internet. It produces an effect similar to...

'Wait what? These experts the climate religious constantly toss about...dont really know if man is causing global warming? But the Congress Woman  just said we have 10 years left. The New York Times said so.

Wait...how much is this costing?'

That's only one of a myriad of reasons why Liberal ideals are being rejected.

The cat's outta the bag...

Climate change is man made and unequivocal.  Not much more to be said beyond that....

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The "china' virus

Injecting bleach to make it go away

Vaccines don't work

Only ~1.2M US deaths from covid

Only ~60K Canadian deaths from covid 

Only ~7M world wide deaths from covid

Another fool who lets someone think for them.  Try thinking for yourself....

All debunked long ago.

Try to keep up.

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Climate change is man made and unequivocal.  

100%, eh?

The dirty 30's - how was that man-made?  Industrialization hadn't started.

Things like the Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption had zero influence on climate, eh?  It's all man?  And ya, someone here said it will only affect for a few years and climate science is calculated over centuries.  But here's the problem:

The climate has changed drastically on its own over millennia, but now it changes 100% because of man?

And if a hotter year here or there means nothing, then why are there so many headlines screaming "HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD!  WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIIEEEEE!!"

According to the headlines, every place on earth is heating up faster than every other place.  How is that possible?