Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural?

[SpankyMcFarland]

Man-made. Ask me a hard one. 

[robosmith]

Sometimes it's natural, but that takes much longer than 100 years.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Man-made. Ask me a hard one. 

Ok.

How many Democrats do you think will be indicted for various traitorous crimes?

[Deluge]

10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Man-made. Ask me a hard one. 

That's a really stupid answer, so maybe we'd better break it down a bit:

How much time does humanity have before the Earth slays us all for pumping gases into the air? 

Remember, we've already been pumping serious shit into the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution. That's nearly 300 years of insolence. How much longer is the Earth going to put up with our shit? 

 

[LinkSoul60]

27 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's a really stupid answer, so maybe we'd better break it down a bit:

Duhhh....  It's obvious...  We're still here so what's the problem right Deluge.   Hard to believe people can't figure this out....

[Deluge]

26 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's a really stupid answer, so maybe we'd better break it down a bit:

How much time does humanity have before the Earth slays us all for pumping gases into the air? 

Remember, we've already been pumping serious shit into the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution. That's nearly 300 years of insolence. How much longer is the Earth going to put up with our shit? 

 

OK, so according to AI Overview:

"Climate change will not cause human extinction in the near future, but it will significantly impact human civilization and potentially lead to widespread suffering". 

Potentially?  What kind of bullshit is that? You perverts want to wreck the economy based on that? lol

Also, it's referring to the "near future" what's considered the "near future"? 

 

 

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Duhhh....  It's obvious...  We're still here so what's the problem right Deluge.   Hard to believe people can't figure this out....

Exactly. 

So why are you still crying? 

[Michael Hardner]

13 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Potentially?  What kind of bullshit is that? 

This is the problem: voters like D can't conceive of the concepts around risk.

Put your hand up if you wear a seat belt. 👋

[LinkSoul60]

45 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is the problem: voters like D can't conceive of the concepts around risk.

Put your hand up if you wear a seat belt. 👋

If not for voters like Deluge, the world would not have got to know Donald Trump as it has.

A big thanks to Deluge and the Maga crowd who find it easier to let Trump think for them, and not worry too much about facts.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is the problem: voters like D can't conceive of the concepts around risk.

Put your hand up if you wear a seat belt. 👋

I see the risk in not wearing a seat belt. 

I don't see the risk in ignoring the climate hysterics. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

If not for voters like Deluge, the world would not have got to know Donald Trump as it has.

A big thanks to Deluge and the Maga crowd who find it easier to let Trump think for them, and not worry too much about facts.

LinkMissing60 doesn't have any facts but he/him does have shit loads of left-wing propaganda to share.

If you're bored and ready for a good laugh, grab a seat and listen to what the pronoun slut has to say.  

Edited August 16, 2025 by Deluge

[LinkSoul60]

42 minutes ago, Deluge said:

LinkMissing60 doesn't have any facts but he/him does have shit loads of left-wing propaganda to share.

If you're bored and ready for a good laugh, grab a seat and listen to what the pronoun slut has to say.  

You've been provided facts, but you don't do facts.

Your argument is 'we're still here' and the 3% of scientists who disagree with the 97% are 'activists'.  In your mind, sound arguments...

[Deluge]

57 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. You've been provided facts, but you don't do facts.

2. Your argument is 'we're still here' and the 3% of scientists who disagree with the 97% are 'activists'.  In your mind, sound arguments...

1. I've been given something, but it sure as f*ck doesn't feel like facts. lol

2. My argument is that political activists have hijacked the science community and turned it into a propaganda machine. 

Talk about the "97%". Do you have an actual list of these scientists and are they all entrenched in the climate change stronghold? 

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. I've been given something, but it sure as f*ck doesn't feel like facts. lol

Hopefully it's not contagious...

3 minutes ago, Deluge said:

2. My argument is that political activists have hijacked the science community and turned it into a propaganda machine. 

97% have turned into activists while the 3% have stayed true to science?  That's a stretch even for you.

5 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Talk about the "97%". Do you have an actual list of these scientists and are they all entrenched in the climate change stronghold? 

No I don't, but you're welcome to look them up.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. Hopefully it's not contagious...

2. 97% have turned into activists while the 3% have stayed true to science?  That's a stretch even for you.

3. No I don't, but you're welcome to look them up.

1. Your idea of facts do feel like an infection, but not to worry, I'm immune.  

2. Nah, more like 3% are true to science, another 3% are communism pushing lunatics, and the rest just kind of cave in at various levels - they probably just mentioned Climate-Change somewhere and the lunatics added those names to their cult. lol

3. No, I'd rather see your evidence. You perverts parrot that number all the time. Show me where 97% of the science community is standing post at Camp Climate.

 

Edited August 16, 2025 by Deluge

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, Deluge said:

I see the risk in not wearing a seat belt. 

I don't see the risk in ignoring the climate hysterics.

Do you think authorities have a duty and responsibility to pass and enforce laws that compel people to wear their seat belts?

[Deluge]

50 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Do you think authorities have a duty and responsibility to pass and enforce laws that compel people to wear their seat belts?

Who cares? And what does that have to do with my ignoring the moonbats? 

[Goddess]

On 8/15/2025 at 10:05 PM, robosmith said:

Sometimes it's natural, but that takes much longer than 100 years.

 

Wrong.

 

Most people missed this because it was underwater and nobody died and we were getting pounded by covid mandates - but in Jan. 2022, an underwater Pacific Ocean volcano named Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai, 490 feet under the waves, massively erupted, bigger than any other modern eruption, even bigger than Mount Pinatubo.

The erupting lava instantly vaporized unimaginable amounts of sea water, which billowed into the atmosphere, changing the water composition of Earth’s atmosphere and heating it up for years. In only a few days, the superheated water from the Hunga Tonga eruption blanketed the globe, pole to pole, East to West.

The eruption was so big it could be clearly seen from space.

Over the next year it would turn out that NASA badly underestimated the amount of water Hunga Tonga vaporized into the atmosphere. Current estimates are three times higher than the original: scientists now think it was closer to 150,000 metric tons, or 40 trillion gallons, of super-heated water instantly injected into the atmosphere. Talk about a greenhouse. Water vapor — humidity — is a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

With a year’s hindsight, the 2023 researchers also concluded that Hunga Tonga was one of the most remarkable climate events in modern history, and its effects are expected to last for years:

"Due to extreme altitude reach of the eruption, volcanic plume circumnavigated the Earth in only one week and dispersed nearly pole-to-pole in three months. The observations provide evidence for an unprecedented increase in the global stratospheric water mass by 13% as compared to climatological levels. As there are no efficient sinks of water vapour in the stratosphere, this perturbation is expected to persist several years. The eruption has also led to a 5-fold increase in the stratospheric aerosol load, the highest in the last three decades yet factor of 6 smaller than the previous major eruption of Mt Pinatubo in 1991.

The unique nature and magnitude of the global stratospheric perturbation by the Hung eruption ranks it among the most remarkable climatic events in the modern observation era."

These researchers were even more direct in connecting the “historic heat wave” to Hunga Tonga:

"We find that the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai eruption produced the … largest perturbation of stratospheric water vapour observed in the satellite era. … after two weeks, due to dilution, water vapour heating started to dominate the top-of-the-atmosphere radiative forcing, leading to a net warming of the climate system… This is the first time a warming effect on the climate system has been linked to volcanic eruptions, which usually produce a transient cooling."

Hunga Tonga warming could last five more years.

 

Sources:

NASA: Tonga Volcanic Eruption Blasted 'Unprecedented' Amount of Water Into Atmosphere | Extremetech

 

Tonga Eruption May Temporarily Push Earth Closer to 1.5°C of Warming - Eos

Global perturbation of stratospheric water and aerosol burden by Hunga eruption | Communications Earth & Environment (nature.com)

 

You can't tell me that things like Hunga Tonga have less effect on the planet's temperature than cows farting on this tiny speck, in this vast solar system that involves gravitational pull, solar flares & radiation, magnetism, ocean currents, and pole shifts among many other natural processes.

 

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Goddess said:

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You can't tell me that things like Hunga Tonga have less effect on the planet's temperature than cows farting on this tiny speck, in this vast solar system that involves gravitational pull, solar flares & radiation, magnetism, ocean currents, and pole shifts among many other natural processes.

 

Why not?

They're able to measure volcanic emissions.  And they know how much carbon we are Emitting.

It's a direct correlation.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

 

Wrong.

 

Most people missed this because it was underwater and nobody died and we were getting pounded by covid mandates - but in Jan. 2022, an underwater Pacific Ocean volcano named Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai, 490 feet under the waves, massively erupted, bigger than any other modern eruption, even bigger than Mount Pinatubo.

The erupting lava instantly vaporized unimaginable amounts of sea water, which billowed into the atmosphere, changing the water composition of Earth’s atmosphere and heating it up for years. In only a few days, the superheated water from the Hunga Tonga eruption blanketed the globe, pole to pole, East to West.

The eruption was so big it could be clearly seen from space.

Over the next year it would turn out that NASA badly underestimated the amount of water Hunga Tonga vaporized into the atmosphere. Current estimates are three times higher than the original: scientists now think it was closer to 150,000 metric tons, or 40 trillion gallons, of super-heated water instantly injected into the atmosphere. Talk about a greenhouse. Water vapor — humidity — is a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

With a year’s hindsight, the 2023 researchers also concluded that Hunga Tonga was one of the most remarkable climate events in modern history, and its effects are expected to last for years:

"Due to extreme altitude reach of the eruption, volcanic plume circumnavigated the Earth in only one week and dispersed nearly pole-to-pole in three months. The observations provide evidence for an unprecedented increase in the global stratospheric water mass by 13% as compared to climatological levels. As there are no efficient sinks of water vapour in the stratosphere, this perturbation is expected to persist several years. The eruption has also led to a 5-fold increase in the stratospheric aerosol load, the highest in the last three decades yet factor of 6 smaller than the previous major eruption of Mt Pinatubo in 1991.

The unique nature and magnitude of the global stratospheric perturbation by the Hung eruption ranks it among the most remarkable climatic events in the modern observation era."

These researchers were even more direct in connecting the “historic heat wave” to Hunga Tonga:

"We find that the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai eruption produced the … largest perturbation of stratospheric water vapour observed in the satellite era. … after two weeks, due to dilution, water vapour heating started to dominate the top-of-the-atmosphere radiative forcing, leading to a net warming of the climate system… This is the first time a warming effect on the climate system has been linked to volcanic eruptions, which usually produce a transient cooling."

Hunga Tonga warming could last five more years.

 

Sources:

NASA: Tonga Volcanic Eruption Blasted 'Unprecedented' Amount of Water Into Atmosphere | Extremetech

 

Tonga Eruption May Temporarily Push Earth Closer to 1.5°C of Warming - Eos

Global perturbation of stratospheric water and aerosol burden by Hunga eruption | Communications Earth & Environment (nature.com)

 

You can't tell me that things like Hunga Tonga have less effect on the planet's temperature than cows farting on this tiny speck, in this vast solar system that involves gravitational pull, solar flares & radiation, magnetism, ocean currents, and pole shifts among many other natural processes.

 

That's not climate change, it is a temporary blip in the weather. because the change will last for far less than the 30 year standard for measuring CLIMATE.

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's a direct correlation.

 

So correlation is causation now, is it?  Or just when it's convenient to your argument?

 

To a climate scientist... Ice cream consumption leads to shark attacks. To combat shark attacks we need to reduce our global ice cream intake.

Although I have evidence that sorbet is skewing the data.

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

That's not climate change, it is a temporary blip in the weather. because the change will last for far less than the 30 year standard for measuring CLIMATE.

Th point is - the climate changes naturally.  It has for billions of years.

Humans either adapt or we don't.  So far, we have, and I expect we will in the future.  No need to give the billionaires all the money.

[Michael Hardner]

55 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

So correlation is causation now, is it?  Or just when it's convenient to your argument?

 

 

No it definitely isn't. 

But there would be no way to prove causation just as it has never been proven that cigarettes cause lung cancer. 

However, the margin of doubt is small enough that proof isn't required. 

So we take action, collectively, to mitigate the risks.

[robosmith]

53 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Th point is - the climate changes naturally.  It has for billions of years.

It doesn't CHANGE NATURALLY as much as it has in the last 100 years.

Your 5 year long volcanic induced change does not affect climate, just weather because climate is measured over 30 years. That is the difference between climate and weather: how long it lasts.

53 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Humans either adapt or we don't.  So far, we have, and I expect we will in the future.  No need to give the billionaires all the money.

Yes we will either pay to stop the change, or pay a lot more mitigate the flooding of coastal cities all over the world because the ice caps and glaciers will melt and raise sea levels by 10s to 100s of feet.

Do you know that having ice caps which hold giga-tons of frozen water is relatively unusual in Earth's history?

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, robosmith said:

That's not climate change, it is a temporary blip in the weather. because the change will last for far less than the 30 year standard for measuring CLIMATE.

Climate change and weather are close enough to be interchangeable, so you really need to stfu. 

Remember: 

• Weather is what happens on a day-to-day basis.

• Climate change is a long-term trend of changes in weather patterns across decades, centuries, or even longer.

[Goddess]

Climate hysterics say your dog causes climate change.

You see where this is going, right?