Why should we hate Nazis?

[I am Groot]

10 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I see no progress being made to suggest otherwise

The politicians continue to make noises about how they're building houses in huge numbers, even as the statistics say otherwise. They're doing virtually nothing to improve healthcare accessibility because they're hemmed in by the single payer system, and the left would rather see the entire country dead and buried rather than admit that isn't working. The unemployment rate keeps rising - it's 9% now in Toronto, 14.6% among those under 25, but the politicians just blame it all on Trump even as they stand at the border gleefully waving in more immigrants, refugee claimants, and foreign workers.

Yeah, things are going to get worse. The Left is determined to create the same conditions their counterparts have in Europe, where there are now growing anti-immigrant as well as Islamist riots in half a dozen countries. Except unlike Europe, Canada hasn't got the numbers of police to deal with such things. 

 

Edited August 17, 2025 by I am Groot

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, blackbird said:

You folks are lying.  That's not what I said.   I made it clear that a deportation process must be according to international law and conventions that protect the human rights of people.  Not just arresting, incarerating in inhumane conditions, and deporting people to meet some kind of quota ordered by the Trump admin.   Obviously you don't believe in a fair and just process that respects human rights.  We will have to agree to disagree.  

That's too costly. Sometimes you just gotta go with common sense. 

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Those are just a-holes.  A-hole is a non-partisan issue LOL.

No, that was the left wing. And they explained exactly why it was political, that is the left-wing behaving as the left wing has come to behave.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is 100% political and partisan

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When I post on forums with mostly lefties they call me conservative.   When i post on forums with mostly conservatives they call me a lefty.  So basically if you disagree with someone they assume you're some caricature that's their complete opposite.

I disagree with tons of the right wing people here frequently. I never call them left wing.

If people are calling you both them chances are either you are not making your stance clear or you're simply taking contrarian positions.

You strike me as slightly left of center. And today's world right Wingers are going to see you and think you're on the left. Left Wingers have now defined the left as essentially being that anyone right of Castro is on the right. So to them you will be seen as on the right even though there is a wide chasm between what they are and what the center is

 

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Trumpsters, PP'sters, and progressives believe lots of wrong things so someone has to point it out.  That doesn't mean all of what they believe is garbage.  A broken clock is right twice a day!  BAHAHA!

I have called out both trump and the conservatives in Canada many times myself. Nothing wrong with that. But often it comes down to the reason why you're criticizing them.

Also einstein proved that time is relative   It's absolutely possible for a broken clock to always be wrong, depending on your frame of reference  

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, Aristides said:

Look. I have no problem with people being critical of some of the things the government did during Covid, they probably deserve some of it. But worse than Nazis? If you actually believe that, you are an id!ot. Either that or incredibly ignorant.

I never said "worse than Nazis". Im just not passionate about Nazi hatred because they're 80 years in the past. 

I'm much more passionate about the people that are destroying our country right now. 

That doesn't make the LPOC "worse than Nazis", they are just a far more pressing concern right now. 

Aristedes, the Nazis wrote a playbook, and we followed it step-by-step, right up to the point of Kristallnacht. Our PM even asked Canadians if the unvaxed should be "tolerated". He had camps in Yukon for "voluntary self-quarantine". And when you start arresting and detaining people en masse for BS reasons, you're at Kristallnacht.

If, as an unvaxed, I was sent to that camp*, and then I "died of covid", would you be surprised? Are you surprised when people die of covid? 

 

• FYI more important than whining about all of the damage that the Nazis did is to look at how they rose to power, all the tricks and tools that they used to expand their power, and especially how they turned so many of their citizens into monsters who supported atrocities against innocent people. Trudeau somehow got Canadians to throw our younger generations under the bus when there was absolutely no scientific basis for it (the jabs weren't working and even if they were, young people DID NOT NEED THEM). That might not be as bad as throwing Jews into ovens, but it's pathetic on a scale that makes me want to vomit. It makes me hate Canadians. Apparently the majority of us are f'ing worms and maggots. 

 

*Yes, the camps were theoretically voluntary, but the same people who said that they were voluntary originally lied to us and said "no such camps were built and everyone who believes such a thing is a crazy conspiracist", they also said that we wouldn't end up with vax mandates, and then those same people imposed vax mandates just a couple of months later. 

When people lie to me I stop believing them Aristedes, but you just pretend that you werent lied to, like a good little cultist.

Again; the point at which Canadians were forced to go into covid quarantine camps would have absolutely been our Canadian Kristallnacht. 

So how far were we from that, Aristedes? People were being denied life-saving surgeries due to their vax status. We were firing Drs and nurses for failing to vax or to follow covid directives. Canadians weren't allowed to have weddings or funerals. We buried our dead without ceremony. The unvaxed were forced into self-quarantine with massive fines for going out in public (it happened to me when we came back across the US border)... So how close did we come to saying "Your swab tested positive, sir. You have asymptomatic covid, so you are deemed a superspreader. You need to come with us"? 

If Fauci - the guy who funded the creation of the covid virus and then pretended to be our saviour - said that "healthy young people who are unvaxed are superspreaders", would you have believed him? Of course you would have, Aristedes. Of course you would have. You have believed every single thing that Fauci, CNN, CBC, Comey, Schiff, Biden, Trudeau, and Carney ever said in the last fifteen years without question, and rigidly defended it all, in te face of all evidence. 

Can you name the last time that you questioned a CBC narrative? Or "news story", as you'd call it?

 

Buddy: I have zero respect for you as a human being. ZERO. I don't give a shit what you think, I automatically consider everything that comes out of your mouth to be BS and lies, and I don't give a shit what happens to you. 

Our democracy is toxic now. This is a failed state. Our hyper-partisan media is beyond redemption. We would be better off if the screaming children in the GOP and Dems were running this country, and that's embarrassing. 

Edited August 17, 2025 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Uh, no, that's the FOX version of how it works. It's how they get people riled up.

The CNN version is that people come, make their claims, those claims are quickly and calmly adjudicated, and then they are dismissed or approved and the individual leaves or stays depending on that decision.

In reality, of course, people come, work, wait years for a decision, and if it goes against them, they simply disappear into the background. Same as in Canada. So I'd say the FOX version is closer to reality, especially if you include all those who never make a claim but just sneak in.

Nope.

If people came to the US at legal points of entry to do that, sure, but FYI swimming across the Rio Grande or riding across the border in the back of a commercial vehicle that theoretically has tomatoes in it shouldn't qualify people for the asylum process. 

Can Gazans do that to get into Egypt? Jordan? Lebanon? 

Maybe the actual terrorists can, but women and children can not. 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I never said "worse than Nazis". Im just not passionate about Nazi hatred because they're 80 years in the past. 

I'm much more passionate about the people that are destroying our country right now. g. 

Well that just proves you're a nazi!

-the left. And robosmith. Probably. 

[User]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

The US government does not process ANYTHING quickly. Nor does ours. The lawyers and judges and their ponderously slow, creaking system takes years to render any sort of decision on asylum claims.

It can if we choose to. There is an expedited removal process, which this administration is using. It is why everyone is crying about how illegal immigrants are getting arrested at court and other places. 

 

[blackbird]

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Those individual humans collectively violated our rights as a sovereign nation. Why do you thinknthey should be a protected class and our citizens should be forced to be victims? 

That victimhood claim is a bit of a lie and a stretch.

You are brainwashed by the Trump, Naomi, MAGA crowd that make false claims endlessly.

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NO NATIONAL STATISTIC

There is no nationwide data on crimes committed specifically by undocumented immigrants, but research shows they do not commit crimes at a higher rate than native-born Americans.

“We know of no national statistics on the numbers of deaths committed by unauthorized immigrants,” Michelle Mittelstadt, communications director of the Migration Policy Institute think tank, said in an email.

Despite the lack of official data, there is significant research demonstrating “unauthorized immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S. born,” Mittelstadt said.

Texas is the only state that logs immigration status in its arrest records, and several studies use data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to examine criminality among immigrants in the U.S. illegally.

TEXAS DATA

Two studies found that undocumented immigrants in Texas commit homicide at significantly lower rates than their U.S.-born counterparts."

Fact Check: No evidence 4,000 people are killed yearly by undocumented immigrants | Reuters

If you really want to do something about all the crime and 48,000 deaths a year by guns in everyone's hands, then bring in laws to ban the ownership of hand guns and assault rifles by everyone.  No need to have thousands of people being killed by guns just so some can claim they are free to own guns to shot other people with.

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

TEXAS DATA

Two studies found that undocumented immigrants in Texas commit homicide at significantly lower rates than their U.S.-born counterparts."

 

so they commit less crime but do commit some crime which wouldn't have happened if they were not there.

Right?

[Moonlight Graham]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You strike me as slightly left of center. 

LOL:  https://repolitics.com/forums/topic/58361-i-dont-hate-progressives/

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If people are calling you both them chances are either you are not making your stance clear or you're simply taking contrarian positions.

Or maybe I'm left of the Trumpsters and right of the progressives.

Edited August 17, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Michael Hardner]

20 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

 

Or maybe I'm left of the Trumpsters and right of the progressives.

Centre right 👍 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

so they commit less crime but do commit some crime which wouldn't have happened if they were not there.

Right?

If someone commits a crime, shouldn't they be arrested and punished?

The fact is the Trump admin is arresting countless people who are not criminals and have not committed crimes and just arbitrarily deporting them without due process in accordance with the UN refugee conventions.  

Don't you think the government is teaching everyone to be Nazis and show no compassion to anyone?

  What will be next when there are countless Nazis running the country and spread throughout society?

The whole world is full of depraved people, including yourself.  Have you been saved yet or are you an unsaved sinner?

 

 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

That victimhood claim is a bit of a lie and a stretch.

Not even a stretch. From the cost to the government, to housing shortages, to increased demand for food and services, to strained social services, to petty crime and violent crime, there isn't a single person on the US that hasnt had to pay a price for illegal immigration.

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You are brainwashed by the Trump, Naomi, MAGA crowd that make false claims endlessly.

What makes you think Trump had anything to do with illegal immigration? He campaigned on fixing the problem that we all wanted fixed. He didn't invent the problem. He leveraged it. He won because it was a real issue we cared about and finally found someone that would do something about it.

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

TEXAS DATA

Two studies found that undocumented immigrants in Texas commit homicide at significantly lower rates than their U.S.-born counterparts."

Fact Check: No evidence 4,000 people are killed yearly by undocumented immigrants | Reuters

If you really want to do something about all the crime and 48,000 deaths a year by guns in everyone's hands, then bring in laws to ban the ownership of hand guns and assault rifles by everyone.  No need to have thousands of people being killed by guns just so some can claim they are free to own guns to shot other people with.

Those studies were found to be inaccurate because they underestimated illegal immigrants living in Texas AND they only counted those that had known immigration status at the time of conviction. Many were later discovered to have been in the country illegally. 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

so they commit less crime but do commit some crime which wouldn't have happened if they were not there.

Right?

So how do you know who is a criminal and who is not?   Why are the criminals running free if it known who they are?

Why are they not punished if they are known?

Countless people are arrested, incarcerated, and deported who are not criminals and never been charged for any crime and no criminal record.

What does the Bible say about how to treat migrants?

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The Bible teaches that Christians are called to treat migrants with kindness and respect. Key teachings include:

Genesis 12:1-3: God calls Abraham to be a father to all nations, emphasizing His love for all people, regardless of their origin. 

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Exodus 22:21: God commands His people to not mistreat foreigners, reminding them of their own experience as foreigners in Egypt. 

Leviticus 19:34: The Bible instructs believers to treat foreigners as native-born, reflecting love and equality. 

Matthew 25:35-40: Jesus teaches that we should treat others as we would want to be treated, highlighting the importance of hospitality and compassion. 

These teachings encourage believers to extend love and support to those who are displaced and seeking a new home.

4 Sources   unquote

[blackbird]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

What makes you think Trump had anything to do with illegal immigration? He campaigned on fixing the problem that we all wanted fixed. He didn't invent the problem. He leveraged it. He won because it was a real issue we cared about and finally found someone that would do something about it.

Everyone knows the election campaign was full of claims about all the criminals that would be deported.  The implication was constantly made that all the migrants are criminals.  That is your own line.  Pure lies.  Of course if people are brainwashed into believing that, they vote for someone who is going to solve the migrant criminal problem.   It was a clever election stunt.   You swallowed it.

Edited August 17, 2025 by blackbird

[blackbird]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Not even a stretch. From the cost to the government, to housing shortages, to increased demand for food and services, to strained social services, to petty crime and violent crime, there isn't a single person on the US that hasnt had to pay a price for illegal immigration.

When are you going to become a Christian?  Do you know the Bible teaching on how to treat foreigners in your country?  Do you accept the Bible on that?  Obviously not.

If you claim to be a Christian, you have no choice but to accept the Bible on how to treat foreigners.  You can have it both ways by being cruel and harsh with people and claiming you are a Christian.  It doesn't work that way.

 

Edited August 17, 2025 by blackbird

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Everyone knows the election campaign was full of claims about all the criminals that would be deported.

And they are. But they are also deporting the illegal aliens that associate with the criminals and anyone else that is easy to round up. Because staying in the country,.without permission, is illegal.

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The implication was constantly made that all the migrants are criminals. 

They are to varying degrees. 

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is your own line.  Pure lies.

What lie?

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Of course if people are brainwashed into believing that, they vote for someone who is going to solve the migrant criminal problem.   It was a clever election stunt.   You swallowed it.

Is it possible you came up with a line that you thought was irrefutable and you are just repeating it over and over, hoping someone will believe it? 

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

When are you going to become a Christian?  Do you know the Bible teaching on how to treat foreigners in your country?  Do you accept the Bible on that?  Obviously not.

 

It said foreigners, not illegal aliens. I have no problems with foreigners. I have problems with people that violate the laws. 

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Because staying in the country,.without permission, is illegal.

You can't just round up anyone who entered the country illegally because they may be a genuine refugee or asylum seeker.

That is contrary to the UN conventions on refugees,

but it also contrary to the Bible which says:

The Bible teaches that Christians are called to treat migrants with kindness and respect. Key teachings include:

Genesis 12:1-3: God calls Abraham to be a father to all nations, emphasizing His love for all people, regardless of their origin. 

Exodus 22:21: God commands His people to not mistreat foreigners, reminding them of their own experience as foreigners in Egypt. 

Leviticus 19:34: The Bible instructs believers to treat foreigners as native-born, reflecting love and equality. 

Matthew 25:35-40: Jesus teaches that we should treat others as we would want to be treated, highlighting the importance of hospitality and compassion. 

These teachings encourage believers to extend love and support to those who are displaced and seeking a new home.

4 Sources

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You can't just round up anyone who entered the country illegally because they may be a genuine refugee or asylum seeker.

Actually, you can. That is what the law says. 

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is contrary to the UN conventions on refugees,

We are a sovereign country. 

9 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You can't just round up anyone who entered the country illegally because they may be a genuine refugee or asylum seeker.

That is contrary to the UN conventions on refugees,

but it also contrary to the Bible which says:

The Bible teaches that Christians are called to treat migrants with kindness and respect. Key teachings include:

Genesis 12:1-3: God calls Abraham to be a father to all nations, emphasizing His love for all people, regardless of their origin. 

Exodus 22:21: God commands His people to not mistreat foreigners, reminding them of their own experience as foreigners in Egypt. 

Leviticus 19:34: The Bible instructs believers to treat foreigners as native-born, reflecting love and equality. 

Matthew 25:35-40: Jesus teaches that we should treat others as we would want to be treated, highlighting the importance of hospitality and compassion. 

These teachings encourage believers to extend love and support to those who are displaced and seeking a new home.

4 Sources

Did you have to use an AI search to come up with that?

Proverbs 28:4    "Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them."

So now what? They are violating the law. That is the way of the wicked. 

[blackbird]

31 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Proverbs 28:4    "Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them."

So now what? They are violating the law. That is the way of the wicked. 

That is talking about criminals.  That is not the kind of people we are talking about.  People who have not committed crimes are not to be just rounded up like cattle and deported.

 I quoted a number of verses that tell you that you have to treat the foreigners in your land with compassion.  Foreigners who have not committed crimes are to be treated with love, respect, and compassion.

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2025 by blackbird

[blackbird]

33 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Did you have to use an AI search to come up with that?

It is what the Bible says.  

[blackbird]

52 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

57 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The implication was constantly made that all the migrants are criminals. 

They are to varying degrees. 

You are lying again.  People with no criminal record are not criminals.   They are being arrested simply because they are undocumented migrants.  That is not someone who is convicted of a criminal offence.  It is just an excuse.

They fall into the category of foreigners in those Bible verses.

[User]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

  People with no criminal record are not criminals.

Wow.

This is some real pretzel logic you have going here.

What next, will you tell us a bear doesn’t take a dump in the woods because no one was there to see it?

 

 

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

People who have not committed crimes are not to be just rounded up like cattle and deported.

Entering the country unlawfully or remaining unlawfully is a crime and deportation is the result of that…. 

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

That is talking about criminals.  That is not the kind of people we are talking about.  People who have not committed crimes are not to be just rounded up like cattle and deported.

Yes they are. Roughly 90% of asylum cases are denied. They are violating immigration law.

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

I quoted a number of verses that tell you that you have to treat the foreigners in your land with compassion.  Foreigners who have not committed crimes are to be treated with love, respect, and compassion.

 

Yes. We have to treat everyone with compassion. Sometimes, compassion comes in the form of rejection. Or do you happen to get all of your prayers answered? 

When we reject asylum claims and make it clear that the people that cross our borders illegally won't get in and if they do, they cant stay, we prevent a lot of suffering. Women and girls are raped on the journey. Many end up sex slaves in our borders. Men and boys end up as drug mules. People that can't pay have their families threatened by the cartels. Don't forget about the people that die on the journey. Whether from starvation,  snake bites, drowning, dehydration or just getting shot by the cartels. 

The horror that comes from trying to skirt the law is far worse than deportation. We are saving lives and treating people with dignity by preventing them from making a grave mistake. You call it mistreatment. Does that mean you think that rape, slavery and death is a fate we should allow? Is that treating them well? 

God denies prayers because we can't see our fate. If we do the same for these people, why are we going against God? 

[eyeball]

On 8/16/2025 at 6:44 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

When I post on forums with mostly lefties they call me conservative.   When i post on forums with mostly conservatives they call me a lefty.  So basically if you disagree with someone they assume you're some caricature that's their complete opposite.

LMAO! Maybe you're just disagreeable no matter what aspect of yourself your facing at them.