myata Posted Wednesday at 09:50 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:50 AM Now, what do you think: honesty? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
betsy Posted Wednesday at 10:25 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:25 AM (edited) Yes. If it's not going against the rules of the party, why not? Given the circumstances we've seen in this election - which everyone agree is dominated by fear of TRUMP - his loss can't be blamed on him. ESPECIALLY SO, if we acknowledge the improvement he's brought to the party. If I'm not mistaken, the Conservatives has earned an extra 16 seats. AND - he's brought in the union (which normalyy vote NDP) and younger generation into the fold! The election we've had wasn't about the traditional partisanship - Conservatives vs Liberals. It's about who Canada thinks is best to tackle Trump! Poilievre must be given another chance! Edited Wednesday at 10:27 AM by betsy 1 Quote
betsy Posted Wednesday at 10:29 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:29 AM (edited) Apparently - there are two or three ridings that are too close that they'll automatically get a recount. Edited Wednesday at 10:31 AM by betsy Quote
betsy Posted Wednesday at 10:35 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:35 AM (edited) I'm still wondering why Ford and his campaign manager Cory Tenycyke had openly criticised Poilievre during the height of the campaign. It seemed orchestrated. I mean, even if you don't agree on how the campaign is being run.....should you go talking to the press about it? Sabotage, comes to mind. ....and I'm thinking if it's true that Ford has plans to run for leader of the Federal Conservatives. What better way than to get Poilievre out of the way? But, I could be wrong. Edited Wednesday at 10:37 AM by betsy 1 Quote
myata Posted Wednesday at 11:52 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 11:52 AM This is not the first time it happened in Canada and neither the second. So why some Conservatives made such a fuss of it? We can probably find such posts even if I bothered to look. So what's the problem with the Conservatives (today) and the objective reality, facts? What's the cause of that tension or even a conflict? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Moonbox Posted Wednesday at 05:28 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:28 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, betsy said: I'm still wondering why Ford and his campaign manager Cory Tenycyke had openly criticised Poilievre during the height of the campaign. Because they don't like Poilievre, and they hate his MAGA slob campaign manager. It's not just Ford either. PC Premier Tim Houston from Nova Scotia wants nothing to do with him. Poilievre makes enemies everywhere he goes. That's what happens when you're a caustic asshat. Edited Wednesday at 09:12 PM by Moonbox 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM 8 hours ago, myata said: Now, what do you think: honesty? We just had mark Carney, take the head seat of the liberal party and of PM of the entire country....without being elected....I guess those rules are just for the liberals right.... 1 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
myata Posted Wednesday at 06:26 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 06:26 PM 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I guess those rules are just for the liberals right.... No, the precedents existed for a while now, takes about a minute to find out. But remember who cried, whined and shouted about it? Oh tragedy... the crime! Any chance, before the total memory wipe? 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
blackbird Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM (edited) 8 hours ago, myata said: Now, what do you think: honesty? Honestly, I think you are lacking in knowledge of how the system works. PP was elected as the leader of the Conservative Party. He will remain as their leader unless the party decides to make a change. His record as leader of the party has been excellent. He brought the party at one point to 15 or 20% ahead of the Liberals in popularity. He will not hold a seat in Parliament for the time being as he did not win the seat. But, if the party or an MP decides, an MP could step down to create a vacancy for him to run in and if he wins the seat, then he could resume to be the representative of the party in the House of Commons. That is how the system works. So it is childish to question his leadership of the Conservative Party. He is still their leader and has done an excellent job. However, we can understand you as a liberal trying desperately to find anything to be critical about. You lost on this one. Edited Wednesday at 06:32 PM by blackbird 1 Quote
West Posted Wednesday at 06:34 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:34 PM (edited) Carney wasn't elected and he acted as our prime minister This place we call "Canada" is owned by the bankers Edited Wednesday at 06:35 PM by West Quote
myata Posted Wednesday at 06:43 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 06:43 PM And here we go again. It was going so nicely till that point. Almost credible. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
taxme Posted Wednesday at 07:05 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:05 PM 8 hours ago, betsy said: Yes. If it's not going against the rules of the party, why not? Given the circumstances we've seen in this election - which everyone agree is dominated by fear of TRUMP - his loss can't be blamed on him. ESPECIALLY SO, if we acknowledge the improvement he's brought to the party. If I'm not mistaken, the Conservatives has earned an extra 16 seats. AND - he's brought in the union (which normalyy vote NDP) and younger generation into the fold! The election we've had wasn't about the traditional partisanship - Conservatives vs Liberals. It's about who Canada thinks is best to tackle Trump! Poilievre must be given another chance! They say that it was the older generation that voted for Corney. They gave the lieberals the victory. If that is the case, then I am going to stop listening to my elders. I thought that they had some intelligence, but they proved me wrong. If one wants to get the elders on their side, then create some kind of fear for them to get all panicky about. That is what Corney and the lieberal media did and it worked well for him. They got the elders vote. It is not Trump that is the problem. It is our own Canadian stoopid and useless politicians that make the problems for Canada and Canadians. Our .60 cent dollar should say it all. We have a federal Marxist government that does not take care of our tax dollars. They borrow and blow our taxes willy-nilly and that than creates inflation and thus a low Canadian dollar. Poilievre had his chance and he blew it. Instead of attacking and mocking the media that despised him he went meek and mild on them. PP knew that the media hated him so why go easy on them. Trump called the American media a lying and fake media and the people liked that and ate that up. PP has his own self to blame. He was just to week and wimpy for me. Canada needed a strong like leader like Trump to help save Canada. But as far as i am concerned, Canada is done and gone. I am just waiting for Alberta to separate and finish off Canada. Canada is not worth getting all pizzed off and fighting for anymore. The globalist Marxists have won. Just saying. Quote
TreeBeard Posted Wednesday at 07:32 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:32 PM 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: We just had mark Carney, take the head seat of the liberal party and of PM of the entire country....without being elected....I guess those rules are just for the liberals right.... Were you complaining that Carney was unelected? Quote
betsy Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM 29 minutes ago, taxme said: The globalist Marxists have won. Just saying. That might be the biggest motivation for Trump to really set his sights on taking Canada. Imagine having a Socialist regime right on his doorstep! 🤣 Quote
TreeBeard Posted Wednesday at 07:41 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:41 PM 2 minutes ago, betsy said: Imagine having a Socialist regime right on his doorstep What do you think are the ramifications of having a “Socialist regime” on your doorstep? Quote
Barquentine Posted Wednesday at 09:01 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:01 PM 2 hours ago, blackbird said: Honestly, I think you are lacking in knowledge of how the system works. Honestly, I think you are lacking in knowledge of how irony works. Quote
Moonbox Posted Wednesday at 09:12 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:12 PM 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Were you complaining that Carney was unelected? Guess who else was "un-elected"? Or do we call it de-elected? 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
herbie Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM Be amazed how suddenly it is when the circle turns. He got voted out of his seat. It is now up to the Conservative Party to decide if a leader refusing a security clearance, blowing a 25 pt lead in the polls, and voted out of his seat, should remain leader. Knowing the double-down on wrong because it's "right" attitude of the people here they may or may not like the Party's decision. Quote
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM 2 hours ago, myata said: No, the precedents existed for a while now, takes about a minute to find out. But remember who cried, whined and shouted about it? Oh tragedy... the crime! Any chance, before the total memory wipe? OK who ? are you still off your meds.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM 2 hours ago, West said: Carney wasn't elected and he acted as our prime minister This place we call "Canada" is owned by the bankers And all the cons whined and cried and went berserk that he was PM. Now, the shoe is on the other foot and it is OK for a party leader to be un-elected. Talk about hypocrites! LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: We just had mark Carney, take the head seat of the liberal party and of PM of the entire country....without being elected....I guess those rules are just for the liberals right.... And who whined and cried foul the loudest??? Oh yeah, the conservatives. Now that your guy is un-elected, it is OK to keep him on??? LOL The liberals have not said a thing...it is the public in general that say they like the conservatives but dislike PP....from the very beginning of the election campaign. Every poll from day one had Carney as the one they liked to lead the country.... by as many as 30 points. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Were you complaining that Carney was unelected? no mytra was complaining about PP now being a party leader with no seat... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM 19 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: And who whined and cried foul the loudest??? Oh yeah, the conservatives. Now that your guy is un-elected, it is OK to keep him on??? LOL The liberals have not said a thing...it is the public in general that say they like the conservatives but dislike PP....from the very beginning of the election campaign. Every poll from day one had Carney as the one they liked to lead the country.... by as many as 30 points. The question came from Mytra, Should someone unelected lead a political party? I replied that Carney was not elected....Nobody is crying just stating a fact... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 10:03 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:03 PM 37 minutes ago, herbie said: Be amazed how suddenly it is when the circle turns. He got voted out of his seat. It is now up to the Conservative Party to decide if a leader refusing a security clearance, blowing a 25 pt lead in the polls, and voted out of his seat, should remain leader. Knowing the double-down on wrong because it's "right" attitude of the people here they may or may not like the Party's decision. Yes it is up to the conservative party....but PP is not going to just leave becasue of all the reasons you have chosen....not even sure what refusing his security clearance has to do with anything...it's only been explained a thousand times.....but you go girl... the rest of your statement is true, it is a question for PP to sit down and come up with an answer....i mean Justin was litteral had to have a gun pointed at him before he decided....maybe he is betting on carneys true colors to show and take advantage of that in a year or more... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 10:10 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:10 PM 11 hours ago, betsy said: I'm still wondering why Ford and his campaign manager Cory Tenycyke had openly criticised Poilievre during the height of the campaign. It seemed orchestrated. I mean, even if you don't agree on how the campaign is being run.....should you go talking to the press about it? Sabotage, comes to mind. ....and I'm thinking if it's true that Ford has plans to run for leader of the Federal Conservatives. What better way than to get Poilievre out of the way? But, I could be wrong. Ford and Poilievre's Campaign manager absolutely hate each other with a passion that only can be described as legendary or epic. Long before the election it was creating Bad Blood between the two groups, but ford decided to take it next level and screw with an election. That's not okay 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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