Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls

CdnFox · March 17

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

338 Canada updated its projections and the Cons are still falling like a rock. Liberals are now favoured to win the election.

For Con supporters: what should it mean for PP, in your opinion, if he loses?

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

Depends on the details of the loss. If he ran a good campaign but he failed and can articulate the lessons he learned and convince people he can do better in the future then he'll probably be given another chance. That's basically what happened with harper.

But if he blows it and it's because he didn't run a good campaign or he's arrogant about it the way that sheer or O'Toole were then he'll probably be gone.

Bottom line is he'll have to not only explain how he failed but he'll have to convince people he can do better

WestCanMan · March 17

It would be so embarrassing if the conservatives didn't win a majority, I couldn't care less if Iran took us over at that point.

PIK · March 17

Alberta liberals numbers are going up. What's going on there?

TreeBeard · March 17

18 minutes ago, PIK said:

Alberta liberals numbers are going up. What's going on there?

I mean…. Was there anywhere else for them to go? Plus, they have an Albertan-born leader of the Lib party now. That probably doesn’t hurt.

Edited March 17 by TreeBeard

SpankyMcFarland · March 17

Watching Grenier on P and P - 8-9% vote lead required by the Cons for a majority versus 1-2% for the Liberals because of greater vote efficiency.

WestCanMan · March 18

2 hours ago, PIK said:

Alberta liberals numbers are going up. What's going on there?

1) Fake polling

2) The polls have been wrong on the last 2 federal elections here and 2 of the last 3 in the US. It took the FBI, CIA, the MSM and all the main social media outlets to push that wormy bag of bones across the finish line in 2020.

eyeball · March 18

4 hours ago, PIK said:

Alberta liberals numbers are going up. What's going on there?

Patriotism would be my guess. Danielle Smith is also just a little too MAGA - takes things like COVID authoritarianism conspiracies and concerns over UFO'S seriously.

BeaverFever · March 18

Conservatives Crumble: Liberals surge past CPC into majority territory, but Grits’ vote commitment is softer

Singh’s party down to single digits as left of centre voters stampede away from the NDP

March 17, 2025 – A whirlwind first quarter of 2025 has swept up Canadian politics and tossed it back down in an unrecognizable jumble.

New data from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute finds the governing Liberal Party – led by newly sworn-in Prime Minister Mark Carney – surging to a five-point vote intention advantage nationally after trailing by 29 points in late December. Were these numbers to hold, with the Liberals at 42 per cent in vote intention, what was a tired, discardable brand just three months ago would be on its way to a fourth term, this time with a majority.

https://angusreid.org/federal-polling-canada-election-poilievre-prime-minister-carney-trudeau-singh-trump/

PIK · March 18

Time for a election. That is when Canadians start paying attention. It seems everyday there is something fishy about carney popping up.

Chrissy1979 · March 18

21 minutes ago, PIK said:

Time for a election. That is when Canadians start paying attention. It seems everyday there is something fishy about carney popping up.

You mean like refusing to be checked out for security clearance? Oh wait, no. He got that without any problem.

PIK · March 18

15 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You mean like refusing to be checked out for security clearance? Oh wait, no. He got that without any problem.

Yup, PP out played the libs on that one.

blackbird · March 18

It seems the polls can shift a lot in a matter of a few weeks. So if the election is held in for example six weeks, the polls could shift a lot either way.

Carney has reportedly made some blunders in answering questions from the media. He apparently refuses to answer some questions. If this occurs during the campaign, Carney could blow it big time and support could shift away from the Liberals and toward the Conservatives.

I don't think Carney would do very well in a debate either. He has no experience as a politician, which is necessary for the top job.

ExFlyer · March 18

15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It seems the polls can shift a lot in a matter of a few weeks. So if the election is held in for example six weeks, the polls could shift a lot either way.

Carney has reportedly made some blunders in answering questions from the media. He apparently refuses to answer some questions. If this occurs during the campaign, Carney could blow it big time and support could shift away from the Liberals and toward the Conservatives.

I don't think Carney would do very well in a debate either. He has no experience as a politician, which is necessary for the top job.

At least he answers whereas PP says a lot but nothing LOL

Correct, Carney has no political experience so he is not as adept at poitispeak ....talking a lot but saying nothing. I will grant, he does not have the historical background like PP who has done nothing but be a teat sucking politician his entire life.

Even if PP wins (as a minority government) he will not be able to do much without parliament behind him. He will be a lame duck PM like Justin LOL

CdnFox · March 18

2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You mean like refusing to be checked out for security clearance? Oh wait, no. He got that without any problem.

No like refusing to declare his businesses and financial interests. Everyone has to get their security clearance to be PM, its not optional. PP will get it then too. But you notice Carney didn't ask for it BEFORE he was PM. Neither did trudeau when he was leader of the opposition btw. Once you get it you can't speak about the subjects you're briefed on, which is the opposite of what an opposition is supposed to do,

But carney refuses to disclose his financial holdings. He says he will eventually.... AFTER the election.... gee, who does that remind me of?

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

At least he answers whereas PP says a lot but nothing LOL

No, he didn't answer. That's the point.

And PP answers every question put to him. although often when he asks for clarity about the question the reporters start tripping over themselves.

Tell us all about how you never defend the liberals there big guy

TreeBeard · March 18

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

He will be a lame duck PM like Justin

I can’t see the Cons forming government with a minority. The Libs/NDP, assuming they have the seats, could simply form a coalition government to prevent that.

Are the Cons going to govern with the Bloc? Very unlikely as they’d lose all credibility by governing with separatists.

I think the Cons need to win a majority, or they will get nothing.

CdnFox · March 18

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

I can’t see the Cons forming government with a minority. The Libs/NDP, assuming they have the seats, could simply form a coalition government to prevent that.

First off, I would remind you of the harper years. For the vast majority of his time in office harper had a minority government and the NDP and the liberals could not get their act together to form a coalition to stop it

Secondly, with the current NDP polling they may not have very many seats at all in the new parliament. Depending on how things play out it might very well be the block that has the actual balance of power. And they absolutely will work with the CPC as long as they get what they want for quebec.

So there's no guarantee that the NDP and liberals would even have enough seats to form a coalition. In fact based on the current polling its somewhat unlikely.

We'll see.

PIK · March 19

Carney now has trumps support.

Barquentine · March 19

26 minutes ago, PIK said:

Carney now has trumps support.

You believe that from the man who only opens his mouth to lie? That's a trick he learned from Putin, pretending to like the candidate they don't prefer, because their endorsement is toxic. Cheap tricks!

TreeBeard · March 19

2 hours ago, PIK said:

Carney now has trumps support.

The old “reverse psychology” trick! 😂

CdnFox · March 19

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You believe that from the man who only opens his mouth to lie? That's a trick he learned from Putin, pretending to like the candidate they don't prefer, because their endorsement is toxic. Cheap tricks!

Trump never feels he has to lie about what he likes. There's no doubt in my mind he would rather have the liberals in power. And there's no doubt in my mind at the liberals get into power we will see exactly why.

The liberals have done nothing to date, doug ford has achieved more than they have.

BeaverFever · March 19

On 3/18/2025 at 12:06 PM, CdnFox said:

Once you get it you can't speak about the subjects you're briefed on, which is the opposite of what an opposition is supposed to do,

But you can’t speak to subjects you’re NOT beings briefed on either since you don’t know anything about the subject. PP would rather resort to uninformed criticism than actually be in the know about the subject.

That’s PPs biggest liability is that he has made this name for himself criticizing from the sidelines without ever having to say in detail what he would have done differently. He sits there the outcome the pandemic and the supply chain crises trying to make it sound like these are simple problems he would have magically solved with a flick of his wrist when in fact they were among the most complex problems with no perfect solution only tradeoffs of downsides.

To be fair, that is what the opposition generally does. But it’s not proof that you’re Prime Minister material.

BeaverFever · March 19

5 hours ago, PIK said:

Carney now has trumps support.

REPORTER: You realize that your id1otic behaviour has made the Liberals popular again right? Like they were almost dead and all you had to do was say nothing now they might win?

TRUMP: Uh…….yeah I totally meant to do that. Yeah I did that on purpose. I mean I don’t care but I did it on purpose but I dont care I don’t care like whatever I don’t care ok?

Edited March 19 by BeaverFever

Army Guy · March 19

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You believe that from the man who only opens his mouth to lie? That's a trick he learned from Putin, pretending to like the candidate they don't prefer, because their endorsement is toxic. Cheap tricks!

You give him to much credit, most people don't think he is that smart.....i mean picking a fight with the entire world thats smart....said nobody... Carney climate policies will give american business an huge advantage...why would he not prefer Carney...

CdnFox · March 19

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

But you can’t speak to subjects you’re NOT beings briefed on either since you don’t know anything about the subject. PP would rather resort to uninformed criticism than actually be in the know about the subject.

Yes, that's' the damned point! You ARE able to demand answers to the things you don't know. And the rest of canada gets to hear the answers as well!

The opposition's job is to question. The opposition's job is to demand that they and Canada know what the hell is going on not just that they do. You literally just suggested that it's a terrible thing for an opposition leader to want Canadians to be informed instead of just themselves. The moment he signs that he can't ask those questions anymore and he can't demand the liberals share any information.

Can you explain why you don't feel that Canadians deserve the answers to these questions and that you feel that poilievre should stop asking them? Is it because you are so bound to the liberals that you don't feel canadians deserve answers? Explain this to me. I'm absolutely fascinated by the liberal desire to silence the opposition even if it hurts Canadians.

You're not the stupidest person on this board, take a step back and actually use your brain for 2 seconds and think about this. You are suggesting that it is wrong for the leader of the opposition to ask questions of the government. You are suggesting that they should sign a document that will not allow them to ask any more questions and that the public has no right to know the answers to these questions and that the opposition should only keep the answers to themselves

Is that really what you intend to say? It is 100% what you are actually saying so you need to sit and think about what kind of person you are and what kind of government you want if that's your attitude. Because the conservatives can still win this next election and if you are a big fan of not being told what's going on and being kept in the dark I'm sure we can arrange it.