Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

First of all Danielle Smith confirms what we all knew, PP “is very much in sync ” with Trump policies and PP totally ripped off Trump’s “America first” slogan  

Ummm... she never said any of that. Find me the quote where she says he's in synch with trump's policies, or ANYTHING about ripping off america first. 

Second you're behind the times.  Trump has already confirmed carney is his man and expects him to win the election and start to work. I haven't heard trump gush about someone like that since putin and little rocket man  

So if being trump's bag boy is bad, you won't be voting for carney this election. He's already sold out. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

So I guess the public displays of vulgarity and vileness weren’t just a one-time extraordinary exception due to Trudeau after all, “f-ck (insert liberal name)” is now a fixture of conservative culture.  

It certainly is for that conservative sub-culture that cleaves towards Trump - the most solid third or more of Pierre Poilievre's supporters.

Poilievre is stuck between a frustrated and a stupid place as evidenced by the apparent schism developing in his party. Between those who want more focus on Trump as the election issue then the issues he's been grooming himself and his party to campaign on for the last two years. Poilievre risks alienating the most solid part of his base by distancing himself from Trump. He's doubly screwed by also having to get rational voters to believe he means it.

As for the fùck the liberals fixture of conservative culture...the split developing within the Conservative Party between by rational conservatives and the nutbars is no where near as bad as the one that's all but destroyed the old in the GOP.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

So your assumption is that I sat at my computer for "days" finding the quote you said that didn't exist,

More of an observation. And we all know that you're so obsessive about me that you absolutely would spend days trying to find a quote that fit. Unfortunately it looks like you couldn't, you never ever said that PP  was the only man who could lose the election. 

You probably spent hours looking before realizing that was as close as you'd get   LOL 

So yes, that is entirely believable. You obsessed like that over me all the time, in fact it's far from the worst we've ever seen

It obviously eats at you night and day the fact that you lose so many arguments to me. And so many of them are to your own mistakes and foibles, most of the time I just have to sit back until you prove yourself wrong. Which you've done again  

 

Now all you have to decide is whether or not you're going to blame how long this post is, or how frequently I post for the fact that you said something stupid. Ahhhh Decisions decisions  

 

 

[herbie]

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

 

Of course. Lies are all they have. 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

 

LMAO I just came on here to post this, beat me to it!

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Of course. Lies are all they have. 

Oh get a sense of humour already 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Oh get a sense of humour already 

Sure! Lies are funny  

I mean it's not as funny as the liberal who suggested having the conservative killed for money this week but still...

[Nationalist]

Looks like that Libbie lead is dissipating. Who'd o thunk...

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Looks like that Libbie lead is dissipating. Who'd o thunk...

Not surprising at all. Their support is volatile. 
 

Here’s a candidate who should be canned. Joking about handing someone over to the CCP is not acceptable:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-paul-chiang-bounty-joe-tay-conservative-1.7496751

 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Not surprising at all. Their support is volatile. 
 

Here’s a candidate who should be canned. Joking about handing someone over to the CCP is not acceptable:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-paul-chiang-bounty-joe-tay-conservative-1.7496751

 

Yup...the dweebs are gonna self-destruct.

[blackbird]

I think there is a lot of BS and lies coming out of mainstream media.  We know the media has no love for the Conservatives and the Conservatives don't have much use for them.  The media is slanted to being liberal because they have received grants in the past and the CBC receives billions from the Liberal government.  So all this is no surprise.  

Many people in the Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto triangle are very gullible and automatically fall for the Liberals.  In Quebec, voting Liberal is a part of their religion because they have always pandered to Quebec.  That is old stuff.

Edited Monday at 04:02 PM by blackbird

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yup...the dweebs are gonna self-destruct.

Well i've been pretty clear that this is my expectation and polls tend to lag behind real events by about 3-4 days most of the time,  But at this point it would seem like we're just seeing the 'buzz' of the margin of error.  Most of these polls are around 2 - 3 percent up or down margin of error. so we could very well see 40 vs 42 one day and see 38 vs 44 the next and really nothing at all changed. So there's always a certain 'noise' from the margin of error. 

My belief is we'll see a slight overall dropping trend this week, where the cpc and libs wind up more or less equal, and it'll bounce around there pretty stable (maybe a slight softening for the libs), and then the debates.  And the debates are where we'll see the next big change. Either the libs will start to go down for real at that point and nosedive into the dirt by election day, OR they will firm up their gains and the CPC will dip slightly and the libs will get a small majority.

The one big variable here that we're not used to is the woke and the quebec nationals.  The woke traditionally have kept  the NDP going, and while in the past the libs have occasionally been able to scoff some of the ndp vote when needed to stop the conservatives, its' never been anything remotely close to this. The ndp may be wiped out. And hte the bloc isn't in much better shape, if the polls are to be believed a lot of their voters went over to the libs right now as well.

So if either of those two groups decides to 'go home' to their respective parties then the libs collapse.  If their supporters stay strongly behind the libs for this election then it will be almost impossible to beat. In such a case the best we could hope for is to hold them to a minority, let carney eff up (because he will) and let people be focused on the fact they have no food or housing again, let the bloc and dips elect new leaders and try to gain back their supporters and then try again in 18 months.  

[-TSS-]

Perhaps having unelected technocrats as leaders is not a problem but actually a solution.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Perhaps having unelected technocrats as leaders is not a problem but actually a solution.

You don't want them to lead, just to do the job of running things smoothly. Guiding elected policy makers is one thing but they shouldn't lead them.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You don't want them to lead, just to do the job of running things smoothly. Guiding elected policy makers is one thing but they shouldn't lead them.

Right, you want an unelected banker instead!

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Right, you want an unelected banker instead!

I'd settle for an elected one with a minority - especially if it makes your head explode.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well i've been pretty clear that this is my expectation and polls tend to lag behind real events by about 3-4 days most of the time,  But at this point it would seem like we're just seeing the 'buzz' of the margin of error.  Most of these polls are around 2 - 3 percent up or down margin of error. so we could very well see 40 vs 42 one day and see 38 vs 44 the next and really nothing at all changed. So there's always a certain 'noise' from the margin of error. 

My belief is we'll see a slight overall dropping trend this week, where the cpc and libs wind up more or less equal, and it'll bounce around there pretty stable (maybe a slight softening for the libs), and then the debates.  And the debates are where we'll see the next big change. Either the libs will start to go down for real at that point and nosedive into the dirt by election day, OR they will firm up their gains and the CPC will dip slightly and the libs will get a small majority.

The one big variable here that we're not used to is the woke and the quebec nationals.  The woke traditionally have kept  the NDP going, and while in the past the libs have occasionally been able to scoff some of the ndp vote when needed to stop the conservatives, its' never been anything remotely close to this. The ndp may be wiped out. And hte the bloc isn't in much better shape, if the polls are to be believed a lot of their voters went over to the libs right now as well.

So if either of those two groups decides to 'go home' to their respective parties then the libs collapse.  If their supporters stay strongly behind the libs for this election then it will be almost impossible to beat. In such a case the best we could hope for is to hold them to a minority, let carney eff up (because he will) and let people be focused on the fact they have no food or housing again, let the bloc and dips elect new leaders and try to gain back their supporters and then try again in 18 months.  

The debate is where Poilievre needs to concentrate. That and personal adds. Which he's doing. If you notice, Liberal ads don't highlight the carney much. I suspect it's because he's awful at public speaking. Very impersonal.

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'd settle for an elected one with a minority - especially if it makes your head explode.

well you ARE all about the hatred and violence so....

Sadly i don't care enough about you one way or another to worry about making your head explode. You're big job here is to keep me amused, and you do it very well, mr "let put body cams on mp's"   

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

mr "let put body cams on mp's" 

If they had any self-respect they'd put one on themselves, just like many self-respecting cops do every single day.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

If they had any self-respect they'd put one on themselves, just like many self-respecting cops do every single day.

If you had any self respect you'd stop saying things that stupid. 

[eyeball]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If you had any self respect you'd stop saying things that stupid. 

You wouldn't.

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So yes, that is entirely believable. You obsessed like that over me all the time, in fact it's far from the worst we've ever seen

It's a pretty sad commentary on your life that you imagine people on an internet forum "obsessing" over you when they don't respond right away.  🥴

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You wouldn't.

15 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

It's a pretty sad commentary on your life that you imagine people on an internet forum "obsessing" over you when they don't respond right away.  🥴

It's pretty sad commentary on your life that you couldn't even deny it was true   LOL

And it's just observation.   You asked me to think about it, i said yes it's easy to believe based on your past history. 

And your lack of denial suggests that even right now i'm living rent free in your head  

[TreeBeard]

20 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

It's a pretty sad commentary on your life that you imagine people on an internet forum "obsessing" over you when they don't respond right away.  🥴

I put that duh-head on ignore.  

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Looks like that Libbie lead is dissipating. Who'd o thunk...

According to whom?

 

338Canada still has a 98% chance of a Lib victory, as of today’s polling. 
 

Edited Monday at 08:55 PM by TreeBeard

[PIK]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

I think there is a lot of BS and lies coming out of mainstream media.  We know the media has no love for the Conservatives and the Conservatives don't have much use for them.  The media is slanted to being liberal because they have received grants in the past and the CBC receives billions from the Liberal government.  So all this is no surprise.  

Many people in the Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto triangle are very gullible and automatically fall for the Liberals.  In Quebec, voting Liberal is a part of their religion because they have always pandered to Quebec.  That is old stuff.

PP is getting the crowds out to hear him speak, carney is hiding most of the time. The libs do not want carney saying anything.