marcus Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Trump’s Gaza plan isn’t some benign diplomatic strategy—it’s ethnic cleansing, plain and simple. And now, a poll from ‘Israel’s’ own Channel 14 reveals that a staggering 73% of ‘Israelis’ support it. This isn’t some fringe extremist view; it’s the overwhelming majority of ‘Israelis’ endorsing the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their own land. A whole nation that is guilty—to borrow the words of ‘Israeli’ President Herzog, who claimed there were “no innocent civilians” in Gaza. When ‘Israelis’ cry about historical injustices, remember this moment: when they openly backed the mass displacement of an entire people. Their own words, their own polls, their own admissions—we will not forget, history will not forget. This is what Israel has become. 3 out of 4 people openly support ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Only racists support these kinds of depraved policies. And only racists support the people who want ethnic cleansing. If you're racist, cool, go support Israel. If you're not, check out BDS. 1 Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Michael Hardner Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 I'll bet that the Gaza poll the other way would be almost as high 😉 2 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
herbie Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 But they and Trump think Gaza is Israel's to give and America's to take. Quote
marcus Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I'll bet that the Gaza poll the other way would be almost as high 😉 I'm sure. Similar to what Black Africans would have polled during the Apartheid era, if asked whether the European colonialist settlers who are inflicting apartheid onto them should be expelled. If you're trying to create some sort of parallel between circumstances and racist mentality of Palestinians and Israelis, I don't agree with you. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
marcus Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, herbie said: But they and Trump think Gaza is Israel's to give and America's to take. It started with the Global South, but the rest of the world is starting to fall in line with saying f*ck you to what Israel is doing. Israel and the Israelis have been exposed as sociopaths. Trump was paid $100 million just by the Adelson family. He has to repay them. Sort of like how Biden was repaying the Zionist lobby, by not stopping the genocide and the continuous bombs he was sending to Israel. These politicians are all representative of the highest bidders. They're not representative of the average person. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Army Guy Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 1 hour ago, marcus said: I'm sure. Similar to what Black Africans would have polled during the Apartheid era, if asked whether the European colonialist settlers who are inflicting apartheid onto them should be expelled. If you're trying to create some sort of parallel between circumstances and racist mentality of Palestinians and Israelis, I don't agree with you. there is a parallel, you just can't see it through your hate of jews....If your suggesting Palestinians don't hate israelis enough to kill them on a whim....thats beyond racists thats psychotic... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ironstone Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 2 hours ago, marcus said: If you're not, check out BDS. If I see that a product that I need is made in Israel, that makes me even more inclined to buy it.😉 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
marcus Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 On 2/7/2025 at 2:00 PM, Army Guy said: there is a parallel, you just can't see it through your hate of jews....If your suggesting Palestinians don't hate israelis enough to kill them on a whim....thats beyond racists thats psychotic... "hate of Jews". STFU already. The antisemite card is overused and you are contributing in killing its meaning. If I criticize the treatment of the Iranian people by the mullahs in Iran, then, do I hate the Iranians? If I criticize the treatment of Rohingya people, then do I hate Myanmar people? If I criticize the treatment of the Afghani people by the Taliban, then do I hate Afghanis? --- Of course there are many Palestinians who hate those who have inflicted decades of human rights violations. When you have every credible human rights organization, like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, etc. calling Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide and war crimes, and when you have holocaust and genocide scholars like Raz Segal (who happens to be an Israeli Jew), calling Israel's actions a genocide, then you have to ask yourself: Should I take these accusations seriously, or should I listen to Israeli government PR? On 2/7/2025 at 2:00 PM, ironstone said: If I see that a product that I need is made in Israel, that makes me even more inclined to buy it.😉 That's good. Be proud that you are supporting a racist, criminal, settler colonialist country 👍 Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
eyeball Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/7/2025 at 11:28 AM, marcus said: This is what Israel has become. Einstein certainly knew what he was looking at. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
carepov Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 (edited) On 2/7/2025 at 1:28 PM, marcus said: Trump’s Gaza plan isn’t some benign diplomatic strategy—it’s ethnic cleansing, plain and simple. And now, a poll from ‘Israel’s’ own Channel 14 reveals that a staggering 73% of ‘Israelis’ support it. This isn’t some fringe extremist view; it’s the overwhelming majority of ‘Israelis’ endorsing the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their own land. A whole nation that is guilty—to borrow the words of ‘Israeli’ President Herzog, who claimed there were “no innocent civilians” in Gaza. When ‘Israelis’ cry about historical injustices, remember this moment: when they openly backed the mass displacement of an entire people. Their own words, their own polls, their own admissions—we will not forget, history will not forget. This is what Israel has become. 3 out of 4 people openly support ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Only racists support these kinds of depraved policies. And only racists support the people who want ethnic cleansing. If you're racist, cool, go support Israel. If you're not, check out BDS. The Trump plan is not serious. One Israeli plan involves evacuating Gazans that want to leave voluntarily. Do you have a link to the actual poll? Also, I would be interested in hearing about your plan. Edited February 10 by carepov Quote
ironstone Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 16 hours ago, marcus said: That's good. Be proud that you are supporting a racist, criminal, settler colonialist country A racist, criminal, settler colonialist country that happens to have a population that is 20% Arab? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
PIK Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/7/2025 at 2:28 PM, marcus said: Trump’s Gaza plan isn’t some benign diplomatic strategy—it’s ethnic cleansing, plain and simple. And now, a poll from ‘Israel’s’ own Channel 14 reveals that a staggering 73% of ‘Israelis’ support it. This isn’t some fringe extremist view; it’s the overwhelming majority of ‘Israelis’ endorsing the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their own land. A whole nation that is guilty—to borrow the words of ‘Israeli’ President Herzog, who claimed there were “no innocent civilians” in Gaza. When ‘Israelis’ cry about historical injustices, remember this moment: when they openly backed the mass displacement of an entire people. Their own words, their own polls, their own admissions—we will not forget, history will not forget. This is what Israel has become. 3 out of 4 people openly support ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Only racists support these kinds of depraved policies. And only racists support the people who want ethnic cleansing. If you're racist, cool, go support Israel. If you're not, check out BDS. And what does Hamas and most Arabs want? To exterminate the jews. How many Arab countries in the world compare to Jewish? Many to one. So who are the racists? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
carepov Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/9/2025 at 1:13 AM, eyeball said: Einstein certainly knew what he was looking at. As with quantum mechanics, Einstein was wrong. In 1979 Begin and Sadat signed a peace treaty and for this they were awarded a Nobel Peace Prize. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 On 2/7/2025 at 11:44 AM, Michael Hardner said: I'll bet that the Gaza poll the other way would be almost as high 😉 Almost as high? If the plan going the other way said "forced expulsion slaughter" the poll would be at 90%, and it has been that way for decades. The Pakistanis did that and the rest of the ME normalized relations with Pakistan while they were still in the midst of the carnage. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Black Dog Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/9/2025 at 1:58 PM, ironstone said: A racist, criminal, settler colonialist country that happens to have a population that is 20% Arab? Apartheid era South Africa had a population that was 70% Black and it was still a racist, criminal, settler colonialist country. Quote
ironstone Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 47 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Apartheid era South Africa had a population that was 70% Black and it was still a racist, criminal, settler colonialist country. I'm referring to Israel. It is 20% Arab which doesn't sound like apartheid. And apartheid South Africa was a pretty nasty state. And post apartheid South Africa is still a pretty nasty state. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Black Dog Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 37 minutes ago, ironstone said: I'm referring to Israel. It is 20% Arab which doesn't sound like apartheid. Well of course if you don't count the people who are directly subject to the apartheid regime, then of course it won't look like apartheid. There are some 3 million Palestinians in the West Bank who are directly under Israeli rule but who have none of the rights even Israeli Arabs enjoy and who are subject to land and property seizures, unlawful killings, forcible transfer, drastic movement restrictions and other measures characteristic of apartheid regimes. Quote
carepov Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 41 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Well of course if you don't count the people who are directly subject to the apartheid regime, then of course it won't look like apartheid. There are some 3 million Palestinians in the West Bank who are directly under Israeli rule but who have none of the rights even Israeli Arabs enjoy and who are subject to land and property seizures, unlawful killings, forcible transfer, drastic movement restrictions and other measures characteristic of apartheid regimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank The Palestinian Authority controls 55% of the West Bank residents and jointly controls another 41% with the cooperation of Israel. Is the PA complicit in this so-called "Apartheid"? Quote
Black Dog Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, carepov said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank The Palestinian Authority controls 55% of the West Bank residents and jointly controls another 41% with the cooperation of Israel. Is the PA complicit in this so-called "Apartheid"? Yes. the PA is a corrupt and mostly toothless Vichy regime. Quote
carepov Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Yes. the PA is a corrupt and mostly toothless Vichy regime. So let me get this straight. First, you confirmed above that there is no apartheid in the country of Israel, right? In the West Bank, you are saying that Israel is working with the Palestinian Authority, and together they are committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinian people, right? Quote
Black Dog Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Just now, carepov said: So let me get this straight. First, you confirmed above that there is no apartheid in the country of Israel, right? Wrong. Quote In the West Bank, you are saying that Israel is working with the Palestinian Authority, and together they are committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinian people, right? Yup. Quote
carepov Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 20 hours ago, Black Dog said: Wrong. 🤔 Stange type of apartheid where the minority group (Arabs) are elected, achieve success in any field and there is a complete lack of any israeli-arabs decrying any apartheid. Very different than South Africa, don't you think? 20 hours ago, Black Dog said: Yup. Also vert strange that the Palestinian leadership is committing apartheid against Palestinian people. It defies logic, no? Quote
Army Guy Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 On 2/9/2025 at 12:42 AM, marcus said: "hate of Jews". STFU already. The antisemite card is overused and you are contributing in killing its meaning. If I criticize the treatment of the Iranian people by the mullahs in Iran, then, do I hate the Iranians? If I criticize the treatment of Rohingya people, then do I hate Myanmar people? If I criticize the treatment of the Afghani people by the Taliban, then do I hate Afghanis? --- Of course there are many Palestinians who hate those who have inflicted decades of human rights violations. When you have every credible human rights organization, like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, etc. calling Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide and war crimes, and when you have holocaust and genocide scholars like Raz Segal (who happens to be an Israeli Jew), calling Israel's actions a genocide, then you have to ask yourself: Should I take these accusations seriously, or should I listen to Israeli government PR? That's good. Be proud that you are supporting a racist, criminal, settler colonialist country 👍 No it is time to expose the Palestinians for what they are, terrorists, murders, racists, who don't long for peace but the total destruction of Israel....And you sir are their accomplice for passing Palestinian propaganda.. Listen to some of the hostages that have been let go, listen to their horror stories on how they were treated, just look at how emaciated they look like....No your palestinians are no better than heartless terrorist....and they will pay for their deeds...These are not the actions of good people, these are actions of people full of pure hate, nothing more than animals https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-says-images-of-emaciated-released-israeli-hostages-palestinian-prisoners-are-deeply-distressing/ 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ironstone Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 On 2/12/2025 at 1:41 PM, Black Dog said: Well of course if you don't count the people who are directly subject to the apartheid regime, then of course it won't look like apartheid. There are some 3 million Palestinians in the West Bank who are directly under Israeli rule but who have none of the rights even Israeli Arabs enjoy and who are subject to land and property seizures, unlawful killings, forcible transfer, drastic movement restrictions and other measures characteristic of apartheid regimes. Territorial losses from the 1967 war. Kind of like FAFO for the Arabs. Territory has been lost in conflicts in other times and parts of the world, but those that lost land moved on with life. Not like the Palestinians. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
cannuck Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 IMHO it is important to remember that ethnic cleansing happened to the Jews of Israel 2000 years ago, and once again 80 years ago, so this pendulum swings both ways. One thing that has come to bother me is the Iranian terrorists of Hamas celebrating their victory with 100:1 ration of released prisoners and restoration of a full stream of foreign aid that will once again enrich Hamas as it uses that windfall to re-equip. Gazans could have stopped this war dead in its tracks by turning their back on Hamas in December of '23 - instead they chose to shelter terrorists within their communities protecting them from detection and earning endless international sympathy for their "civilian" losses. I am not saying I agree with ethnic "cleansing" of Palestinians or Israelis - just bringing up how the situation on the ground is not one sided as portrayed by each side. Quote
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