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By today's standards no this is not fair to some of the people living in Palestine 1900 to 1947. By the standards of 1900 to 1947 the immigration of Jews was much more fair than the typical "population transfers" of tens of millions of people around the world. Don't you think that it was only fair that the Jews established their own country on their ancestral land? Which Palestinians made the better choice: a) those who more or less cooperated with the Jews, accepted the Israeli state and whose 2 million descendants live peacefully and enjoy the benefits of being Israeli citizens? b) Those that did not recognize Israel and whose descendants make up the other 5 million living in Palestine? These kinds of comparisons between Israel and Canada (and China?) are ridiculous. Here's another one: what if is there was a constant barrage of rockets from Oka into Montreal, then a 10/7 type of attach occurred?

I suspect that Arab rulers want both: Peace between their country and Israel (hence Abraham accords) And ongoing conflict between Palestine and Israel uniting the "Arab street" in its hatred of Israel, nicely deflecting their attention away from corrupt rulers and the broken societies they lead.

I think that you are right on most points. However: I suspect most Arab leaders love the Palestine - Israel conflict as it is nice distraction for their population. Turkey and Israel were strong allies. The Abraham accords were significant too. And let's not forget, 2 million Muslims live in Israel peacefully. Be careful not to paint 1 billion Muslims with the same brush.

What about the hostages?

Here are the three things that I most admired about him as PM: 1. Strong stance against Apartheid 2. Free Trade 3. Replacing the hidden 13.5% manufacturers' sales tax with the GST. The unpopularity of this move is the main cause of the PC subsequent downfall, however it was a great move for the country.

Ok, thanks for the trolling lesson.

Are you claiming that Israelis rape,kill and kidnap then celebrate?

I don't know about popularity. I am completely mystified about how so many people today can celebrate the raping, killing and kidnapping of people. Do you have an explanation? What Israel is doing now will prevent future attacks.

Who said anything about an existential threat? They threaten to kill, rape, kidnap as many Jews as they possibly can. Do you find this acceptable?

Hamas fighters are hiding in all these places. I do not think that and I never said that. What I said was that there was a ceasefire on 10/6 and Hamas broke that ceasefire. This will not work. Hamas has said that they will continue to attack Israel until Hamas controls all of Palestine from the River to the Sea. Why don't you believe what they say?

Israel's only option is war. They are not indiscriminately bombing. Hate should be directed at Hamas. If they had not executed 10/7, breaking the ceasefire, there would be no war. If they released the hostages and surrendered, the war would end. Your turn.

Not even an idea? Not even some options? Yes, Hamas is a threat and they are eliminating the threat.

Yes, there was significant discrimination in the past, today there is no legal discrimination. Social discrimination exists in Israel, my guess is that it is on par or less pronounced that social discrimination against Indigenous people in Canada or Blacks in the US. So what should Israel do about it? I don't know what to think about it. I used to think that it was very bad. I now realized that no matter what Israel does, Palestinian leaders and their supporters call for violence and the elimination of Israel. In other words: Israeli actions do not cause Palestinian violence There is no Israeli indiscriminate violence in Gaza. Given Hamas' charter and actions a blockade is reasonable. Even Egypt agrees.

That is not what I am saying. Arab-Israelis have equal rights in Israel and a much better standard of living than Arabs in any surrounding country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_Arab_Muslims *** What do you think of the Hamas charter that calls for the elimination of all Jews? What is your opinion on the 10/7 attacks? Do you support the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel?

No, this is central. The point is that without a strong state, all Jews in the Middle East would be ethnically cleansed or killed. Remember too that in Israel, there are 2 million Arab-Israelis with full citizenship and rights living in peace and security.