gatomontes99 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 JT is basically admitting defeat. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: That's not much of a victory. I noticed that both in Mexico and Canada's case they're lined up to meet mostly with trade people. So this was the false charge to scare everyone, and now the negotiations begin for real on trade. And that's where this will either win or lose I love it how every time Dictator On Day One shits the bed and fails there’s someone to claim he did it on purpose as part of some genius 4D chess move. DODO’s half baked tariff scheme failed, plain and simple. Trudeau kicked his ass in the span of 72 hours and now thanks to Trump, JT will leave office with a major historic win that will change Canada for the better, hopefully permanently Edited February 4 by BeaverFever Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: JT is basically admitting defeat. LMAO the fake reality you live in! This is a victory for Canada. Trudeau just re-announced his December border plan with a couple of small tweaks. To stop the imaginary fentanyl that doesn’t exist. Trump retreated from his illegal cash grab and this is his way out. Trump lost bigly Edited February 4 by BeaverFever 2 1 Quote
herbie Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Oh STFU if you're gonna quote FOX news and accuse others of not posting what's been dominating the news for months already. Dumbfux don't even know is that all Trump managed was to give Justin reason to speedily do what average Canadians have been asking for years, tighten our border. And it sure as f*ck wasn't to stop people leaving. And Mr Late to the Show as usual Yank, Diaper Don's finally noticed there's a fentanyl problem now he can play that tune to his ulterior motives. Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao...reality and the left are unacquainted That was announced back in December you dipshit. The only new thing is that some public official is going to have “fentanyl czar added to their title for a little while. You think that was worth destroying the economy for? Just on the weekend Trump was saying there is nothing Canada can do to avoid his tariffs. He said he would increase them if Canada dared to retaliate Now his slinking away with a limp dick after Canada took him to the woodshed Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO the fake reality you live in! This is a victory for Canada. Trudeau just re-announced his December border plan with a couple of small tweaks. To stop the imaginary fentanyl that doesn’t exist. Trump retreated from his illegal cash grab and this is his way out. Trump lost bigly Lmao. Trump got everything he wanted and gave JT 30 days to make it happen or the Tariff goes back in place and, in your mind...some how...that means JT won? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao. Trump got everything he wanted and gave JT 30 days to make it happen or the Tariff goes back in place and, in your mind...some how...that means JT won? He got NOTHING he wanted which was the tariffs. He never even clearly said what exactly he wanted. Certificate nothing that wasn’t implemented back in December. He said there was NOTHING Canada could do to avoid the tariffs. As I’ve already said elsewhere: 1) Dictator On Day One (DODO)threatened tariffs under false pretences, repeatedly trolled Canada about becoming the 51st state and using “economic force” to annex Canada 2) The drugs and illegal immigrants from Canada are a statistical zero, contrary to FODOs lies 3) DODO’s claim that Canada refused requests to help crackdown on the (nom-existent) fentanyl and human smuggling are a lie He also cited a number of other various lies about Canada as justification most of which HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRADE so can’t be solved with Tariffs 4)Canada introduced a $1.3 Billion increase to border security anyway just to appease DODO back IN DECEMBER 5) DODO said there’s nothing Canada can do to avoid tariffs and could never clearly state what exactly he wanted Canada to do or when he would be satisfied 6) Despite refusing to take JTs phone calls or have any communication woth Canadian officials, as soon as we announce countermeasures he call JT twice in one day, described the call as “pretty good” and stopped the trolling and annexation talk. DODO “postponing” his tariffs for “30 days” is just his path of retreat so he can change the subject and move on to something else. He lost. He is not going to revisit this in 30 days. All Canada had to do was offer a few symbolic toke gestures…even though Trump had just said there was nothing Canada could do to avoid his tariffs. The bully tried to take our lunch money, we popped in the nose and now he’s fading away. Edited February 4 by BeaverFever Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 19 minutes ago, Aristides said: No reason to think Trump will keep his word on this anymore than he has before. Even if this does get settled, Canadians will never really trust the US again and maybe that's a good thing. I'm not sure if Trump thought this through... Canada has 40M people, so if we were somehow forced to become a state we'd have more electoral college votes than California: they have 38M and get 54 EC votes... I doubt if the Republicans would even get 20% from here if Trump somehow screwed us like that, meaning the Dems would automatically start off with 152 EC votes (Wsh 12, Ore 8, Can 55, Cali 54 and NY State 28). That's already 1/4 of the total. In this latest election, Trump won all 7 swing states and ended up with a 312-226 win. If Canada went Dem, even if we only had 55 EC votes, it would have been 312-281, making the difference 31 points. Just winning Pennsylvania (19) would be a 38-point swing, giving Kamala the win. There are two states with 16 EC votes, so just winning either of those ones would also make it a win for Kamala. The two lowest EC-vote swing states combine for 16 EC votes, making it a win again. Trump could only have afforded to lose one of Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada to win (if the Dems won all of their states that aren't considered swing states). Just for gits and shiggles, Canada with 55 EC votes in: 2000's 271-266 win for Dubya would have made it 320-271 for Gore 2004's 286-251 win for Dubya would have have made it 306-286 for Kerry 2008's 365-173 win for Obama would have have made it 420-173 2012's 332-206 win for Obama would have have made it 387-206 2016's 304-227 blowout win for Trump ( 77 EC vote win) would have have been a 304-281 squeaker. A 12-vote swing would have been enough to give Hillary the win. If Hillary knew that she didn't have to work all the swing states, and could focus on 1 or 2.... In short, the Dems would have won every election since G H W Bush in 1993, with the exception of Trump's 2 wins, and they would have been razor thin wins against shitty candidates. It's actually hard to imagine that he still would have won under those circumstances. There would eventually be 9 Dem-appointed SCJ's. The USA/Canada thing would become a complete shithole country. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
gatomontes99 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: He got NOTHING he wanted which was the tariffs. He didn't want the tariffs. He wanted the northern border secured and fentanyl coming from Canada, where it is apparently legal thanks to JT, to stop crossing. 7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: He got NOTHING he wanted which was the tariffs. He never even clearly said what exactly he wanted. Certificate nothing that wasn’t implemented back in December. He said there was NOTHING Canada could do to avoid the tariffs. As I’ve already said elsewhere: 1) Dictator On Day One (DODO)threatened tariffs under false pretences, repeatedly trolled Canada about becoming the 51st state and using “economic force” to annex Canada 2) The drugs and illegal immigrants from Canada are a statistical zero, contrary to FODOs lies 3) DODO’s claim that Canada refused requests to help crackdown on the (nom-existent) fentanyl and human smuggling are a lie He also cited a number of other various lies about Canada as justification most of which HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRADE so can’t be solved with Tariffs 4)Canada introduced a $1.3 Billion increase to border security anyway just to appease DODO back IN DECEMBER 5) DODO said there’s nothing Canada can do to avoid tariffs and could never clearly state what exactly he wanted Canada to do or when he would be satisfied 6) Despite refusing to take JTs phone calls or have any communication woth Canadian officials, as soon as we announce countermeasures he call JT twice in one day, described the call as “pretty good” and stopped the trolling and annexation talk. DODO “postponing” his tariffs for “30 days” is just his path of retreat so he can change the subject and move on to something else. He lost. He is not going to revisit this in 30 days. All Canada had to do was offer a few symbolic toke gestures…even though Trump had just said there was nothing Canada could do to avoid his tariffs. The bully tried to take our lunch money, we popped in the nose and now he’s fading away. If he never said what he wanted, then why did the news agencies report on it? Trump has framed his latest actions as leverage on immigration and drugs. He blamed the three U.S. partners for not doing enough to stop the flow of fentanyl into U.S. markets. He also blamed Mexico and, to a lesser extent, Canada for an inflow of migrants across U.S. borders. Face it. Canada and Mexico caved. Just like Venezuela and Colombia. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
West Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 YES!!!!! 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao. Trump got everything he wanted and gave JT 30 days to make it happen or the Tariff goes back in place and, in your mind...some how...that means JT won? Trump got nothing that wasn't already implemented in last year's budget. Epic fail. Quote
West Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO the fake reality you live in! This is a victory for Canada. Trudeau just re-announced his December border plan with a couple of small tweaks. To stop the imaginary fentanyl that doesn’t exist. Trump retreated from his illegal cash grab and this is his way out. Trump lost bigly Trump lost to Trudeau and looks weak on the world stage now. His base is somehow claiming victory over an ice cold Bud Light 😆. Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 20 minutes ago, West said: Trump lost to Trudeau and looks weak on the world stage now. Wow we actually agree on something for once 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: I'm not sure if Trump thought this through... Canada has 40M people, so if we were somehow forced to become a state we'd have more electoral college votes than California: they have 38M and get 54 EC votes... I doubt if the Republicans would even get 20% from here if Trump somehow screwed us like that, meaning the Dems would automatically start off with 152 EC votes (Wsh 12, Ore 8, Can 55, Cali 54 and NY State 28). That's already 1/4 of the total. In this latest election, Trump won all 7 swing states and ended up with a 312-226 win. If Canada went Dem, even if we only had 55 EC votes, it would have been 312-281, making the difference 31 points. Just winning Pennsylvania (19) would be a 38-point swing, giving Kamala the win. There are two states with 16 EC votes, so just winning either of those ones would also make it a win for Kamala. The two lowest EC-vote swing states combine for 16 EC votes, making it a win again. Trump could only have afforded to lose one of Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada to win (if the Dems won all of their states that aren't considered swing states). Just for gits and shiggles, Canada with 55 EC votes in: 2000's 271-266 win for Dubya would have made it 320-271 for Gore 2004's 286-251 win for Dubya would have have made it 306-286 for Kerry 2008's 365-173 win for Obama would have have made it 420-173 2012's 332-206 win for Obama would have have made it 387-206 2016's 304-227 blowout win for Trump ( 77 EC vote win) would have have been a 304-281 squeaker. A 12-vote swing would have been enough to give Hillary the win. If Hillary knew that she didn't have to work all the swing states, and could focus on 1 or 2.... In short, the Dems would have won every election since G H W Bush in 1993, with the exception of Trump's 2 wins, and they would have been razor thin wins against shitty candidates. It's actually hard to imagine that he still would have won under those circumstances. There would eventually be 9 Dem-appointed SCJ's. The USA/Canada thing would become a complete shithole country. You've fallen for Trump's BULLSHIT. He was never serious about Canada; it was just a distraction from HIS SCREW UPS, esp his FAILURE to appoint an FAA Commissioner after Mush demanded the previous one be fired. Quote
West Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Wow we actually agree on something for once Don't get me wrong. Trudeau is a clown. But i don't get how Trump claims victory here Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: He didn't want the tariffs. He wanted the northern border secured and fentanyl coming from Canada, where it is apparently legal thanks to JT, to stop crossing. LMAO it is not legal here you dipshit!! Seriously you are absolutely clueless add there no fentanyl problem coming from Canada. The fentanyl lie was a false pretence. 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: If he never said what he wanted, then why did the news agencies report on it? Trump has framed his latest actions as leverage on immigration and drugs. He blamed the three U.S. partners for not doing enough to stop the flow of fentanyl into U.S. markets. He also blamed Mexico and, to a lesser extent, Canada for an inflow of migrants across U.S. borders. He didn’t say what EXACTLY he wanted and he refused to talk to Canada before his unprovoked attack. In fact he said there was nothing Canada could do to stop the tariffs. For the fentanyl problem that doesn’t exist. The news article just repeated Trumps claims which are false and lack specifics on what he wanted from Canada. Trump backed down, he’s not coming back in 30 days 2 minutes ago, West said: Don't get me wrong. Trudeau is a clown. But i don't get how Trump claims victory here So now instead of leaving office as a clown he leaves victorious Quote
West Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO it is not legal here you dipshit!! Seriously you are absolutely clueless add there no fentanyl problem coming from Canada. The fentanyl lie was a false pretence. He didn’t say what EXACTLY he wanted and he refused to talk to Canada before his unprovoked attack. In fact he said there was nothing Canada could do to stop the tariffs. For the fentanyl problem that doesn’t exist. The news article just repeated Trumps claims which are false and lack specifics on what he wanted from Canada. Trump backed down, he’s not coming back in 30 days So now instead of leaving office as a clown he leaves victorious I just went to the grocery store tonight. The Canadian stickers were handy and supports your local farmer or BC produce. Most Canadians see this as an attack on their neighbor, not on Trudeau which is why it triggered an American boycott. 2 Quote
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 40 minutes ago, West said: Don't get me wrong. Trudeau is a clown. But i don't get how Trump claims victory here Go watch Hannity or Ingram or something, they'll have you straightened out in no time. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hodad Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I'm not sure if Trump thought this through... Canada has 40M people, so if we were somehow forced to become a state we'd have more electoral college votes than California: they have 38M and get 54 EC votes... I doubt if the Republicans would even get 20% from here if Trump somehow screwed us like that, meaning the Dems would automatically start off with 152 EC votes (Wsh 12, Ore 8, Can 55, Cali 54 and NY State 28). That's already 1/4 of the total. In this latest election, Trump won all 7 swing states and ended up with a 312-226 win. If Canada went Dem, even if we only had 55 EC votes, it would have been 312-281, making the difference 31 points. Just winning Pennsylvania (19) would be a 38-point swing, giving Kamala the win. There are two states with 16 EC votes, so just winning either of those ones would also make it a win for Kamala. The two lowest EC-vote swing states combine for 16 EC votes, making it a win again. Trump could only have afforded to lose one of Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada to win (if the Dems won all of their states that aren't considered swing states). Just for gits and shiggles, Canada with 55 EC votes in: 2000's 271-266 win for Dubya would have made it 320-271 for Gore 2004's 286-251 win for Dubya would have have made it 306-286 for Kerry 2008's 365-173 win for Obama would have have made it 420-173 2012's 332-206 win for Obama would have have made it 387-206 2016's 304-227 blowout win for Trump ( 77 EC vote win) would have have been a 304-281 squeaker. A 12-vote swing would have been enough to give Hillary the win. If Hillary knew that she didn't have to work all the swing states, and could focus on 1 or 2.... In short, the Dems would have won every election since G H W Bush in 1993, with the exception of Trump's 2 wins, and they would have been razor thin wins against shitty candidates. It's actually hard to imagine that he still would have won under those circumstances. There would eventually be 9 Dem-appointed SCJ's. The USA/Canada thing would become a complete shithole country. Trump didn't think something through? Said something stupid? We've been watching this same shitshow for a decade already. 1 Quote
myata Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Dumb to the core pathetic sucker. A joke before the whole world. Now taking America with him to his funny land. What "checks and balances"? Where? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: I love it how every time Dictator On Day One shits the bed and fails there’s someone to claim he did it on purpose as part of some genius 4D chess move. Again, how is having a temper tantrum and saying any bullshit that comes to mind to freak people out a sophisticated 3D chess move? This is simple. He talks about it in his books he has always done this and if you'll recall I mentioned that this is how this was going to play out back when all of this started and I said it was just a negotiating tactic to set the stage for economic discussions. Now I'm right you're coming up with some sort of bullshit about it being a 4D move. This is what I said 3 months ago. This is how trump operates. He creates confusion and panic and says all kinds of crazy things and threatens and intimitdates and in the end when everybody's in a kefuffle he'll walk in put down his demands on the table and you see what he really wants and he hopes that the pot has been stirred so badly that you'll agree to what he says just to get back to peace. But what I love is that I say this is how something is going to happen then it happens then you turn around and make some sort of weird claim about it being a conspiracy theory just because what I said was going to happen happened. Maybe you should start listening to what I say and you'll wind up looking less uninformed later Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
gatomontes99 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO it is not legal here you dipshit!! Seriously you are absolutely clueless add there no fentanyl problem coming from Canada. The fentanyl lie was a false pretence. Sounds like it is either legal or defacto legal. Either way, JT has been way to friendly with narcotics and it is spilling over into the US. Edited February 4 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Matthew Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Has he blamed the collapse of his tariff plan on DEI yet? 1 Quote
Hodad Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 42 minutes ago, Matthew said: Has he blamed the collapse of his tariff plan on DEI yet? There's an orange man in office who clearly isn't qualified for the job. That's the only answer. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Sounds like it is either legal or defacto legal. Either way, JT has been way to friendly with narcotics and it is spilling over into the US. More MAGA bullshit Quote
Deluge Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 16 hours ago, godzilla said: Trump pauses Canadian tariffs for 30 days in deal with Trudeau Trump blinks again! now its about banks and cars? wtf? like Canada doesn't buy cars? Trump mistaken, U.S. banks can and do operate in Canada US still paying as Canadians stop buying US products and US alcohol still off the shelf. Go Canada! godzilla is a proud woketard. 1 Quote
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