Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine for not flying Pride flag

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) as a mayor, you're right, you can't say anything you want without legislative consequence
2) they weren't invoked here
3) this wasn't invoked here
4) like Doug Ford ?  He could do something about this if he wanted to.

Now why would Doug get involved? All that would accomplish is pouring gas on a fire.

IMO, the mayor is well within his rights and responsibilities to do as he's done. Should those in town disagree, they can tell him in town council meetings or via election.

 

[User]

Holy crap, this is madness. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

1. Now why would Doug get involved? All that would accomplish is pouring gas on a fire.

2. IMO, the mayor is well within his rights and responsibilities to do as he's done.

3. Should those in town disagree, they can tell him in town council meetings or via election.

 

1. Huh ?  He's the premier of what province ?  I'll bet if the Liberals were in power you'd be insisting they do something.
2. Speaking of gas on a fire... if he had just said "We're a small town with no flagpole sorry" he would have spared the tempest in a teacup.  Instead he wished there was a "straight day" and the zealots went after him.
3. Agreed.  

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Speaking of gas on a fire... if he had just said "We're a small town with no flagpole sorry" he would have spared the tempest in a teacup.  Instead he wished there was a "straight day" and the zealots went after him.
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So in other words in order to maintain his rights he should be forced to lie and not be honest as well as being forced to do something that he doesn't want to do

The woke folk are a plague on this country and we should be sure to elect leaders who will protect us against this kind of injustice. If it comes down to a face off between our rights and their rights we should ensure that our rights trample theirs soundly. It's a shame that they can't embrace the idea of everybody working together to get along. But if it's a fight they want to pick....

[Five of swords]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If you're a deranged leftie who thinks people should cede their personal rights to a central authority it is. 

 

No, I just think you can't be Canadian unless you worship gay people. If you don't like that then you will have to start your own country. I honestly would love it if you just executed every Canadian politician and started over...I'm not saying I like it the way it is I'm just saying it is the way it is.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Five of swords said:

No, I just think you can't be Canadian unless you worship gay people.

You were wrong in the first four words of that sentence and then it went downhill from there

[Nationalist]

37 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

No, I just think you can't be Canadian unless you worship gay people. If you don't like that then you will have to start your own country. I honestly would love it if you just executed every Canadian politician and started over...I'm not saying I like it the way it is I'm just saying it is the way it is.

"worship gay people"?

I hope that's an over exaggeration for effect?

[taxme]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine in Pride flag flap | Toronto Sun

So the short version is the town decided not to fly the gay flag for pride month. The Ontario Human Rights board call that Transphobia and demanded that the mayor who voted for that paid $5,000 personally and that the town had to pay $10,000, and that the mayor also had to attend a re-education camp to learn about trans people.

 

He didn't say anything negative about trans people. The town did not vote against trans people or anything they just did not want to fly the flag. And now they are both being attacked personally and as a community because they didn't want to be forced to do something.

How insane the whole trans agenda has gotten. It's not even a question of saying anything negative about them, if you refuse to praise them and sing their glories then you may personally be on the hook for thousands of dollars. You must literally say what they want you to say and do what they want you to do or face severe repercussions from the state.

I hope they fight this all the way to the supreme court. It is absolutely disgusting that people be forced to wave a flag and sing the Praises of something that they don't necessarily agree with

Isn't this a similar version as to what the human rights outfits do in communist countries? They send someone off to be reeducated into the communist way of thinking if they do not tow the Marxist line. There is so much freedom of speech being lost in Canada these days. 

The gays in this country have far too much power and control over so many institutions. They have no rights to be pushing for their flag to be flying at any school. The schools are there for learning, and not a place to push agendas like gayism. Enough already with this gay agenda. We know that you are there, now STFU. Just saying. 

[herbie]

I suppose if the mayor decides the city will not fly a Canadian Flag on Canada Day is just f*cking fine then? Their 'freedumb' to choose?

There are 2 reasons not to fly a Pride flag, they don't have one or they don't have a flag pole. If they don't want to because they don't support it, that's grounds for what they got. If they just didn't and STFU about it, there would be no issue. They made the issue by refusing to.

Wanna merely be an arsehole? It comes with consequences.

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

"worship gay people"?

I hope that's an over exaggeration for effect?

How could that be exaggeration? I don't think anyone would get fined for forgetting to praise some deity...right?

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

I suppose if the mayor decides the city will not fly a Canadian Flag on Canada Day is just f*cking fine then?

Yeah. In fact the number actually did that in the year when they discovered the graves that turned out not to actually be graves at the residential schools.

Canceled Canada today and didn't fly the flag. And nobody got fined or went to jail or anything like that

Any other comparisons you'd like to make?  

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

How could that be exaggeration? I don't think anyone would get fined for forgetting to praise some deity...right?

Huh...that's just wrong on so many levels.

[blackbird]

 Two people on here say the mayor must bow to a group and fly their flag even if it goes against the mayor's or the people he represents values and conscience.  Herbie and Five of Swords are either being contrary just for the sake of arguing or if they really believe it, they have serious issues and don't understand human rights.  It is a basic human right not to have to actively support something if you don't believe in it.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by blackbird

[herbie]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah. In fact the number actually did that in the year when they discovered the graves that turned out not to actually be graves at the residential schools.

Run for Mayor so they can cancel your incessant lies.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Run for Mayor so they can cancel your incessant lies.

Awwww muffin   It must hurt you terribly that you can't burrow you the truth on a whim whenever you feel like it On this forum   

"WHY DON"T THEY DO THIS THEN!?!?!? HUH!?!?!!?"   they did that.  "UHHH WELL UMMM... WHY DON"T YOU GO AWAY?!?!?"    LOL   Classic leftie 

[CdnFox]

And the repercussions continue

Three bills affecting transgender Albertans pass debate, set to become law | Globalnews.ca

 

The changes include requiring children under 16 to have parental consent if they want to change their names or pronouns at school.

One bill will prohibit doctors from treating those under 16 seeking transgender treatments, such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy.

The third bill will ban transgender athletes from competing in female amateur sports and require school and organizations to report eligibility complaints.

[myata]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

and just waiting for somebody to stick their neck out and challenge them.

Ah, so Canada...

[Moonlight Graham]

The story in the OP is unbelievable.  Forcing activist flags on a polity is insane.

Doug Ford should abolish the human rights commission and those fake courts run by non-judges.

[Moonlight Graham]

10 hours ago, herbie said:

I suppose if the mayor decides the city will not fly a Canadian Flag on Canada Day is just f*cking fine then? Their 'freedumb' to choose?

There are 2 reasons not to fly a Pride flag, they don't have one or they don't have a flag pole. If they don't want to because they don't support it, that's grounds for what they got. If they just didn't and STFU about it, there would be no issue. They made the issue by refusing to.

Wanna merely be an arsehole? It comes with consequences.

Who the heck would fine a town for not flying a Canadian flag on Canada Day?  That's insane.  If the residents don't like it they'll vote the mayor out.

[Venandi]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Who the heck would fine a town for not flying a Canadian flag on Canada Day? 

Or burning it for that matter... I might not like it but I accept that (subject to legalities imposed by hate laws) freedom of speech and expression must apply to things I don't like in order to be worth defending. 

On the other hand, compelling me (or any other person or entity) to fly or not fly a particular flag against my (or their) will is another thing entirely. This is where wild eyed progressives earn their loon feathers and lose the plot entirely. It's also the point where kind strangers who fed the loons when they were starving say "GO FISH."  

IMO, that nonsense has generated the well deserved and long overdue backlash we're beginning to see now.   

There simply isn't enough lipstick, pantyhose, or hormone blocker on the planet to allow compelled expression to masquerade as free and no amount of screaming is likely to convince me to feed baby loons next spring.

How do ya like me now Herb?

Edited December 4, 2024 by Venandi

[Nefarious Banana]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Who the heck would fine a town for not flying a Canadian flag on Canada Day?  That's insane.  If the residents don't like it they'll vote the mayor out.

Fine the town?  Who would take that threat seriously?  Repercussions?  Who is threatening to sue? 

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Fine the town?  Who would take that threat seriously?  Repercussions?  Who is threatening to sue? 

Failing to comply can be a contempt of court charge believe it or not, and the people suing will be the complaints who brought this to the tribunal in the first place. They will have a number of collection options to come after the people for money. Bradley the state can enforce its demands that others Pay homage to the gay and lesbian community by police force if necessary

[paradox34]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:45 PM, CdnFox said:

Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine in Pride flag flap | Toronto Sun

So the short version is the town decided not to fly the gay flag for pride month. The Ontario Human Rights board call that Transphobia and demanded that the mayor who voted for that paid $5,000 personally and that the town had to pay $10,000, and that the mayor also had to attend a re-education camp to learn about trans people.

 

He didn't say anything negative about trans people. The town did not vote against trans people or anything they just did not want to fly the flag. And now they are both being attacked personally and as a community because they didn't want to be forced to do something.

How insane the whole trans agenda has gotten. It's not even a question of saying anything negative about them, if you refuse to praise them and sing their glories then you may personally be on the hook for thousands of dollars. You must literally say what they want you to say and do what they want you to do or face severe repercussions from the state.

I hope they fight this all the way to the supreme court. It is absolutely disgusting that people be forced to wave a flag and sing the Praises of something that they don't necessarily agree with

Phobia

anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation

Interesting that deciding to not waste tax dollars furthering the social political ambitions of a small minority should be classified as an anxiety disorder but deciding to dress and act like the opposite sex and demanding that everyone play along is "normal". Sorry. You have the right to pretend but I also have the right to disagree. That disagreement also gives me the right to withhold support, emotional, social and financial!

Edited December 4, 2024 by paradox34

[herbie]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Who the heck would fine a town for not flying a Canadian flag on Canada Day?

Just how dumb are you? The point was they got nailed for refusing to fly the flag rather than simply not flying a rainbow flag.
Got it?
They made a f*cking point about the subject which was discriminatory and paid the price. WTF do you think, that an elected official can stand in front of a news camera and shout "I hate them fags, f*ck 'em" and that's their freedumb of speech? I suppose you're one of them arses demanding your town ban rainbow crosswalks too?

 

[paradox34]

58 minutes ago, herbie said:

Just how dumb are you? The point was they got nailed for refusing to fly the flag rather than simply not flying a rainbow flag.
Got it?
They made a f*cking point about the subject which was discriminatory and paid the price. WTF do you think, that an elected official can stand in front of a news camera and shout "I hate them fags, f*ck 'em" and that's their freedumb of speech? I suppose you're one of them arses demanding your town ban rainbow crosswalks too?

 

Phobia

anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation

Interesting that deciding to not waste tax dollars furthering the social political ambitions of a small minority should be classified as an anxiety disorder but deciding to dress and act like the opposite sex and demanding that everyone play along is "normal". Sorry. You have the right to pretend but I also have the right to disagree. That disagreement also gives me the right to withhold support, emotional, social and financial!