Crackpot Alberta Conservatives, Danielle Smith and Chemtrails

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

You are the one that is really trying to spread the crackpot tin foil misinformation. Your high humidity level in the air bull chit is total nonsense. So, why would some planes leave vapors that last for a short period of time while vapors from some other airplanes sticks around for hours?

Come on, quit with that woke bull chit, fever. So, have you taken your temperature lately? Just wondering. 😁 

Omg you’re only showing off you stunning lack of ignorance. Like seriously you must be a high school dropout like another user on this thread to show that level of idi0cy  

The endurance of condensation trails depends on the temperature and amount of moisture in the surrounding air. In drier air the moist contrails dissipate quickly. But the more ambient moisture is in the surrounding air, the longer contrails will take to dissipate  Moisture dissipates faster in drier air than moister air. Also the colder the surrounding air is the less moisture it can hold without condensation (clouds forming) therefore when there is less discrepancy between the temperature of the jet exhaust and the outside air there’s less of a contrail. That’s just a basic understanding of how our atmosphere works that all children have by grade 9  

By the way you should learn how expressions like “tin foil hat” work, you can’t just level it at anyone you disagree with. You are the one with the minority opinion and conspiracy claim. At flat earther can’t claim people who believe the earth is round tin foil crackpots and contrail kooks are no different than flat earthers

 

 

[Venandi]

Contrail altitudes can easily be calculated.

As you might expect, for tactical missions the estimates are routinely included in the meteorological briefing pack... so they can be avoided. Why would any sensible mission commander on a "secret deployment mission" fly at those altitudes? 

Here's where the conspiracy falls apart, next time you see multiple contrails stretching from horizon to horizon take a moment and consider the size of the chemical holding tanks that would be required for a trans continental/trans oceanic flight. Imagine the number of passengers and the amount of luggage that would have to stay on the ground because of it... it would be breathtaking. Ticket prices would be off the charts to compensate for the massive reduction in available seat miles. 

It's not just airplanes BTW, with the right environmental conditions, vapour trails can even be seen behind bullets. In this case it's caused by pressure changes around the bullet. rather than the release of water vapour and condensation nuclei from the engines. Viewed with a spotter scope the effect is more impressive than that shown above. 

Dew point is the temperature to which unsaturated air needs to be cooled (at a constant pressure) to become saturated. Increased pressure raises temperature and decreased pressure reduces it. Both factors come into play with a bullet in flight in the same manner as with visible wing vortices, especially with landing aircraft in slow speed high lift configurations when the temp/moisture content of the air is just right.

Then again, maybe Herb is right and I'm just annoyed by basic physics... shhhhhh

 

Edited October 5 by Venandi

[Venandi]

You can sometimes see the same effect with the car in front of you on a cold day.

In the arctic, when the conditions are just right, an engine start will put enough moisture into the air to create a thick blanket of ice fog almost instantaneously... it's a relatively rare thing but pretty cool to see.

Depending on conditions, contrails can last anywhere from minutes to extended periods... they can even produce an entire layer of Cirrus cloud if conditions are right. Environmentally, there is some debate about them because they tend to capture more radiation from below than they reflect from above... thus creating a net increase in heat retention and contributing to global warming as a result of it. 

 

 

Edited October 5 by Venandi

[Army Guy]

On 10/4/2024 at 2:28 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, people have to stop voting for leaders who encourage the crazy.

And which leaders would that be Michael ?, last time i checked all the leaders are chasing the crazies...

[taxme]

18 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Not that I think reason matters to to you but I have actually trained at the NAVCAN training facility, specifically in weather observation as it relates to airplane safety.

What comes out of the engines on a plane in CONdensation of water molecules and based on meteorlogical conditions can remain in the sky for extended periods of time, after ten minutes they are considered clouds because, they like clouds are hydrometeors , meaning they are comprised mostly of water.

Be serious with me (I won't tell anyone), I promise )this is an act right? You're just an amazing troll right? Because I don't believe anyone that thinks the way you pretend to, could even work a computer, no less  function in society. Really, just tell me,  I think you're hysterical.

Personally, I believe that you are stupid. I have seen many times where these chemtrails have criss-crossed one another in the atmosphere. Sometimes three or four lines of chemtrails. What was with all those lines being sprayed up there? Stop trying to pretend that because you trained at NAVCAN that what you have learned is all for real. You are not privy to what really goes on at the top of the NAVCAN chain of command. Of course, you could easily be a troll here. Just saying, stupid. 

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, it's because she's not progressive.

There's a whole buffet of different types of self labelled conservatives under the Big Tent. Social, progressive, religious, fiscal etc etc.

Over here in my tent it's still just the same old commies that have been mouldering there since Marx. Nothing changes.

You people change your brand like it was underwear. 

At least you have admitted to being with commies, comrade. 🤣

[taxme]

17 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Omg you’re only showing off you stunning lack of ignorance. Like seriously you must be a high school dropout like another user on this thread to show that level of idi0cy  

The endurance of condensation trails depends on the temperature and amount of moisture in the surrounding air. In drier air the moist contrails dissipate quickly. But the more ambient moisture is in the surrounding air, the longer contrails will take to dissipate  Moisture dissipates faster in drier air than moister air. Also the colder the surrounding air is the less moisture it can hold without condensation (clouds forming) therefore when there is less discrepancy between the temperature of the jet exhaust and the outside air there’s less of a contrail. That’s just a basic understanding of how our atmosphere works that all children have by grade 9  

By the way you should learn how expressions like “tin foil hat” work, you can’t just level it at anyone you disagree with. You are the one with the minority opinion and conspiracy claim. At flat earther can’t claim people who believe the earth is round tin foil crackpots and contrail kooks are no different than flat earthers

 

 

Many times i have looked up in the sky and have seen many chemtrails criss-crossing each other. I can remember one time seeing five chemtrail lines at once in the sky. Can you explain that one to me, fever? 

[Venandi]

Either the aircraft are going to different places or they're wasting a lot of valuable chemicals in a small patch of sky.

If the latter, it must have been coordinated by progressives... intersectionality and all that. 

Here's the cockpit view.

RVSM is reduced vertical separation minima

Edited October 5 by Venandi

[herbie]

Oh FFS you bellding imbeciles if you wanted to see chemtrails you'd need to be in an airplane above where they're crop dusting.
Posting pics of contrails from the ground without acknowledging winds exist and different elevations proves how f*cking stupid you are.

But don't worry, electric planes are on their way. They'll spray invisible chemtrails under the new secret AITA ISO 3875A protocol.

[eyeball]

I swear pilots are up there playing X's and O's with their contrails some days. There's lots of air traffic over the coast hereabouts. I'm assuming the O's are military planes that fly out over the Pacific ocean before heading back to base...to tank up or whatever.

You see contrails from the boat all the time around here. I recall reading there's a lot of air traffic overhead that's coming from and going to Dallas. Planes at a lower altitude, likely heading in or out of Vancouver and Seattle, don't seem to leave trails.

[CdnFox]

Her answer was perfect and you guys are all dolts. 

She didn't say there was such a thing, she didn't say there wasn't. It's the perfect answer to give a bunch of people who are worked up over nothing. She just said if anyone's doing it it's illegal. It's the perfect kind of non answer that you give when somebody gives you a question which is kind of crazy to begin with

Imbeciles have literally been arguing over absolutely nothing for two pages. Well done. They are spraying anything I hope it's something that will prove intelligence, but so far it's not working

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Imbeciles have literally been arguing over absolutely nothing for two pages. Well done.

Says the stupid ring leader o_O

Take a bow.

[SkyHigh]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

Personally, I believe that you are stupid. I have seen many times where these chemtrails have criss-crossed one another in the atmosphere. Sometimes three or four lines of chemtrails. What was with all those lines being sprayed up there? Stop trying to pretend that because you trained at NAVCAN that what you have learned is all for real. You are not privy to what really goes on at the top of the NAVCAN chain of command. Of course, you could easily be a troll here. Just saying, stupid. 

Seriously, you're not for real are you?

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Says the stupid ring leader o_O

Take a bow.

Sure Kid 😊

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

[herbie]

18 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Seriously, you're not for real are you?

Unfortunately so, and in a democratic society it takes TWO normal intelligent people to counter each of them and actually move ahead.

[BeaverFever]

On 10/5/2024 at 3:15 PM, taxme said:

Many times i have looked up in the sky and have seen many chemtrails criss-crossing each other. I can remember one time seeing five chemtrail lines at once in the sky. Can you explain that one to me, fever? 

So assuming for a minute you actually did see what you claim to have seen (big assumption), that would be planes flying on different routes whose contrails intersect.

[BeaverFever]

On 10/2/2024 at 10:38 PM, Zeitgeist said:

So many naive commentators on here who think they know how the world works.  They don’t have a clue and should go back to their Jack Tapper.

Thank God Canada has a few sane politicians left like Danielle Smith to rescue the country from the progressive lunatics who are destroying it.   I hope she goes after chem trails and the creepers trying to corrupt our children.  Sadly it’s an uphill battle in Castro-Trudeau’s Post-National State.  

I didn’t take you for a chemtrail conspiracy nut. It’s hilarious that you think people who don’t subscribe to this minority fringe belief with no basis in any actual fact or understanding aren’t sane. 

[eyeball]

59 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I didn’t take you for a chemtrail conspiracy nut. It’s hilarious that you think people who don’t subscribe to this minority fringe belief with no basis in any actual fact or understanding aren’t sane. 

Who knew DEI could be so retarded?

Anything goes under the Big Tent - it's all good.

[herbie]

He has telescopic mass spectrometer eyes. That's how he knows they're chemtrails.

[Zeitgeist]

On 10/10/2024 at 2:14 PM, BeaverFever said:

I didn’t take you for a chemtrail conspiracy nut. It’s hilarious that you think people who don’t subscribe to this minority fringe belief with no basis in any actual fact or understanding aren’t sane. 

Cloud seeding has been underway for decades.  Why have laws that prevent weather manipulation though, right?  What could go wrong?

[Zeitgeist]

On 10/10/2024 at 3:20 PM, eyeball said:

Who knew DEI could be so retarded?

Anything goes under the Big Tent - it's all good.

Sucky and foolish wilful ignorance as always.  You must be looking forward to being treated by the next wave of graduates from Canada’s latest racist anti-merit school. Our courts won’t rule against racist programs because they’ve bought into the belief that some groups are better or more deserving than others strictly on the basis of race or other discriminatory grounds.  Why have laws preventing any kind of mistreatment or subterfuge?   Move to America where all the lunatics live if you don’t like it, right?  Yup, well my kids may have to do that and I may choose to do that, because the left wing lunatics running Canada are far worse.

Jamie Sarkonak: TMU's diversity doctor program a new low for Canadian academia

Ontario should defund the largely unmeritocratic med school, which is slated to open next year

Edited October 13 by Zeitgeist

[Old Guy]

On 10/2/2024 at 6:17 PM, BeaverFever said:

It is up to the Canadian federal government to look into those chemtrails.

Here is an act that came into effect in 1985 and remains in effect now.

On 10/2/2024 at 5:07 PM, taxme said:

No one seems to be able to find out as to just what is in those chemtrails,

You could make a request for the reports filed under this act since 1985.  In fact you would think that if there  was a danger the conspirators would have found out and been blasting the news everywhere. Instead they make vague assertions that its the military that they are poisoning us, that it is private companies.  I do believe there were efforts made to seed clouds to produce rain in drought areas.  

 

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Cloud seeding has been underway for decades.  Why have laws that prevent weather manipulation though, right?  What could go wrong?

Take a minute or two and read this act. It doesn't necessarily prevent weather modification but it could if the chemicals were dangerous.  This act came into effect in 1985, nearly 40 years ago. 

[Old Guy]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Sucky and foolish wilful ignorance as always.  You must be looking forward to being treated by the next wave of graduates from Canada’s latest racist anti-merit school. Our courts won’t rule against racist programs because they’ve bought into the belief that some groups are better or more deserving than others strictly on the basis of race or other discriminatory grounds.  Why have laws preventing any kind of mistreatment or subterfuge?   Move to America where all the lunatics live if you don’t like it, right?  Yup, well my kids may have to do that and I may choose to do that, because the left wing lunatics running Canada are far worse.

Jamie Sarkonak: TMU's diversity doctor program a new low for Canadian academia

Ontario should defund the largely unmeritocratic med school, which is slated to open next year

In the last 25 years that I've lived in this town I have never had a Canadian born doctor. I had a Russian followed by three successive South Africans and then an East Asian. My new doctor is a East Asian as well. I count myself lucky because I have had a doctor. There is no reason to believe that an indigenous doctor will be less competent than a white doctor. In fact they might be better. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Sucky and foolish wilful ignorance as always.  You must be looking forward to being treated by the next wave of graduates from Canada’s latest racist anti-merit school.

Actually I'm looking forward to seeing PP make it all go away as he begins filling our hospitals and medical centres with mostly good old fashioned old stock Canadian graduates.

I'm old enough to remember a house visit from a doctor. Mom put out a fresh ashtray for him.

[Zeitgeist]

Unfortunately I no longer trust government because I’ve seen how any policy or program that the public wouldn’t support is either redacted when people demand access through the Freedom of Information Act or the request is simply refused on the basis of national security.  The case in point is the work that took place at the Winnipeg viral facility involving Chinese researchers.  Research and actual viruses were shared with a political adversary in Wuhan.  That government action is dangerous to national security, but when the public questions what is happening, we are gaslighted and told that disclosing reckless activity is a national security threat, even though it’s only through disclosure that such reckless acts can be prevented.

Currently Bill Gates and other very powerful individuals want to engage in all sorts of geoengineering and social engineering in order to meet their goals, to which the public has not consented and of which most people are unaware.  Why has he been buying up farms and land so feverishly?

The European Union has essentially pressed its farmers to give up farming in the name of climate and other goals.  These decisions are not made from the ground up, grassroots level under the important principle of subsidiarity that’s supposed to guide democratic decisions.  Instead, many major decisions that impact how we live are made unaccountably behind closed doors.  We should oppose all such attempts at unaccountable top-down policies that will no doubt change how we live, especially after a “crisis.”   If that makes me a crackpot conspiracy theorist, I don’t care.  I feel more secure among people who stand up for constitutional rights and hold government to account.  The Canadian government barely seems in charge anymore because it’s so beholden to international agreements and behind the scenes elite think tanks.  Canada has changed in ways that most Canadians would never support given the choice, on taxes, immigration, social policy, etc.

What’s more, so called progressive leaders like John Carey want to see free speech curtailed so more unaccountable decisions can be shoved down our throats “for the greater good” to keep us “safe”.