Canada’s fertility rate has hit its lowest level in recorded history

[CdnFox]

https://globalnews.ca/news/10262331/canadas-fertility-rate-record-low/

The Canadian fertility rate has hit its lowest level since Statistics Canada began collecting data more than a century ago.

The agency released its most recent numbers Wednesday, showing the birth rate fell to 1.33 children per woman in 2022, well below the replacement level of around 2.1.

Canada’s birth rate dropped from 1.43 in 2021 and continues a “downward trend [that] began in 2009.”

This is a national trajectory with record lows in nearly every province and territories. Quebec and Nova Scotia were the exceptions, says Statistics Canada.

 

Ban birth control?

 

Edited February 2, 2024 by CdnFox

[Michael Hardner]

If only there were a way to increase the population without forcing women to give birth... 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

If only there were a way to increase the population without forcing women to give birth... 

Well i DID have a promising experiment going on a while back to create entire families - but it turned out to just be brine shrimp. 

(Anyone who gets that joke really is old   )

[herbie]

WE need a govt funded program!

FORNIC-ACTION CANADA

Hey Bill did you know the average 60 yr old Swed f*cks three times as often as most Canadians?

No Jill, but your bikini proudly shows enough stretch marks to show everyone that you're well above average! You should get a Patriotic Medal.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

WE need a govt funded program!

FORNIC-ACTION CANADA

Hey Bill did you know the average 60 yr old Swed f*cks three times as often as most Canadians?

No Jill, but your bikini proudly shows enough stretch marks to show everyone that you're well above average! You should get a Patriotic Medal.

Finally a platform justin might win on! 

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well i DID have a promising experiment going on a while back to create entire families - but it turned out to just be brine shrimp. 

(Anyone who gets that joke really is old   )

I knew a guy who actually ordered the cardboard submarine.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I knew a guy who actually ordered the cardboard submarine.

That and the x-ray glasses that could see your bones and through women's clothes - i was definitely in their target market.

[Moonlight Graham]

11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If only there were a way to increase the population without forcing women to give birth... 

If only there was a way for the government to increase the population while ensuring the non-urban population that doesn't vote for their party will consistently decline in numbers every single year.

If only there was a way to reduce global GHG emissions without needing to tax people or invest in expensive new tech etc.  Hmm...

If only there was a way to make the cost of living so unaffordable that Canadians didn't feel they could afford having kids.

If only there was a way to make old baby boomers die earlier.

If only there was a way to encourage Canadians to kill themselves.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Moonlight Graham

[QuebecOverCanada]

12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If only there were a way to increase the population without forcing women to give birth... 

Lower housing costs would be a start. Same as better economic opportunities.

My partner and I are in our late 20s and would love to have children, but we simply can't afford it right now. We're many in our friends circle who have the same issue.

Many of us don't want to raise a family in a chicken hen. We want either a house or somewhere spacious, because we're not rats.

[myata]

27 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

because we're not rats.

First you create an expectation; then you fail to live up to it. A no-brainer of failure for any project or policy.

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, myata said:

First you create an expectation; then you fail to live up to it. A no-brainer of failure for any project or policy.

Look, if you want to live Mumbai-style, it's your choice, but it's not something Canadians want.

[myata]

9 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

but it's not something Canadians want

Just as said. When the expectations do not match the reality. Too bad for the latter.

[QuebecOverCanada]

4 hours ago, myata said:

Just as said. When the expectations do not match the reality. Too bad for the latter.

Just lower your standards, bro!

Live in a pod, bro! It's fine, bro! It's just your expectations that are wrong, bro!

Bro, come on, adapt to slum life, bro, it's just you that's the issue bro!

Edited February 2, 2024 by QuebecOverCanada

[blackbird]

The liberal left has a way to increase the population, but it is not by Caucasians giving birth.  Their answer is immigration from the third world.  Caucasians or the European founding people and their descendants are a dying ethnic group.  Canada is becoming a heathen third world country fairly quickly.  Canadian Caucasians will be nearly extinct at some point in the not too distance future.  If you don't believe it, look at the changing demographics and the fertility / reproduction rates of the ethnic groups in Canada.

It should be no surprise liberals have no love for white European Protestant descendants, possibly because they get more votes from minorities.

Liberals love Socialists but have little use for freedom-loving, free enterprise conservatives.

[TreeBeard]

52 minutes ago, blackbird said:

but it is not by Caucasians giving birth.

Why is it important that the babies are white?   Are my Chinese-coloured Canadian friends less Canadian than white people?

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why is it important that the babies are white?   Are my Chinese-coloured Canadian friends less Canadian than white people?

It's not the skin colour that is the problem.  It is the fact that Canada was founded as a Judeo-Christian society.  Immigrants from the third world generally do not bring a Judeo-Christian culture or values.  This makes Canada more liberal/Socialist/progressive which are anti-Christian ideologies.  Canada is going downhill.

Judeo-Christian nations like Europe and America have had far more prosperity and freedoms than the rest of the world.  Good examples of backward countries which do have not the same values as the west are Africa, the middle east, and Asia.  Because of third world immigration, we will become more like them.  The future doesn't look good for our children.

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Good examples of backward countries which do have not the same values as the west are Africa, the middle east, and Asia.

None of those are countries.  Africa is full of Christians.  
 

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Judeo-Christian nations like Europe

Europe is not a country.  There are also parts that are much more secular than here.  And the ones that aren’t secular are Catholic!  Should we make sure we bring more Catholics to Canada?

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It's not the skin colour that is the problem.

Maybe stop saying it is then.  Maybe use the word “Canadian” instead of “Caucasian”.  

 

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Judeo-Christian culture or values.

Islam is as much “Judeo” as Christianity is.  
 

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

None of those are countries.  Africa is full of Christians.  

I would not say that.  There are some Christians in various countries in Africa, but the Judeo-Christian civilization did not historically exist in Africa.  Missionaries did take the gospel and Bible to Africa over the past number of centuries but large parts of Africa remain heathen in nature and northern Africa is largely Muslim.

They have had endless civil wars in some parts of Africa and genocides as well.  So not Africa has some Christians in some places but society is still very backward in many ways.  It is not the same as the west at all.

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Europe is not a country.  There are also parts that are much more secular than here.  And the ones that aren’t secular are Catholic!  Should we make sure we bring more Catholics to Canada?

I never said it was a country.   I referred to it as a geographic area.  In general Europe is more Judeo-Christian than eastern countries like Russia, China, middle east, Africa, etc.

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Maybe stop saying it is then.  Maybe use the word “Canadian” instead of “Caucasian”.

No.  Caucasians are generally of European/American/Australian descent and support Judeo-Christian culture more than non Caucasians.  It is not being racist;  it is just a historical fact.

 

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Islam is as much “Judeo” as Christianity is.

You obviously have no idea about the differences between Islam and Judeo-Christian culture.  There is no similarity.

[TreeBeard]

13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Judeo-Christian civilization did not historically exist in Africa

It was in Africa before it was in North America.  
 

South America is also full of Christians.  The ones immigrating to USA, legally or illegally, are overwhelmingly Christian.  
 

15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Caucasians are generally

So being white is the important part to you.  Stop pretending it’s not.  Embrace the race!

15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You obviously have no idea about the differences between Islam and Judeo-Christian culture.  There is no similarity.

They believe in Moses…. Jesus is one of their prophets.   Yup.  Definitely as much a branch of those religions as Christianity is of Judaism. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Look, if you want to live Mumbai-style, it's your choice, but it's not something Canadians want.

This is a major problem. And in fairness it's a problem with roots that go all the way back to the end of the 60's where a change in banking had an unexpected side effect, but the bottom line is that the last 7 years have driven the costs of getting by so high that really you need two people working full time at good paying jobs just to get by.  And nowadays it's not even 'get by well', it's barely get by in many cases.

Nobody is going to want to have kids in those circumstances.

[impartialobserver]

I am not sure what can be done, honestly. Kids are expensive.. harsh but true. And the sentiment is that you do not have kids until you have the situation right.. that takes time and that limits your child bearing years. 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am not sure what can be done, honestly. Kids are expensive.. harsh but true. And the sentiment is that you do not have kids until you have the situation right.. that takes time and that limits your child bearing years. 

Well basically you have to make it cost less to have kids.

The conservatives were on the right track when they allowed income splitting for families. If your wife stays at home then you get to split your wage with her so that it reduces your tax burden and makes it more affordable.  Also the so called 'boutique' tax breaks like kids sports equipment has no gst that kind of thing.

And you have to lower costs for everybody in general.  We've already discussed what  needs to happen to get home pricing under control, we have to get taxes down, become much more 'productive' in the business sense, and focus on increasing the value of work so that wages go up naturaly without pushing inflation.

If people can afford it, they will have kids. Right now they just can't. So that's really what has to change.

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Well basically you have to make it cost less to have kids.

The conservatives were on the right track when they allowed income splitting for families. If your wife stays at home then you get to split your wage with her so that it reduces your tax burden and makes it more affordable.  Also the so called 'boutique' tax breaks like kids sports equipment has no gst that kind of thing.

And you have to lower costs for everybody in general.  We've already discussed what  needs to happen to get home pricing under control, we have to get taxes down, become much more 'productive' in the business sense, and focus on increasing the value of work so that wages go up naturaly without pushing inflation.

If people can afford it, they will have kids. Right now they just can't. So that's really what has to change.

Housing prices.. the bain of most people's lives. Some want high home prices so that their home has high resale value. Some want high home prices because it is more lucrative for their 1038 exchange so as to avoid capital gains taxes. Then there is good old supply and demand.. some places are just expensive due to high demand and low supply. Examples are San Francisco, Monterey CA, San Diego, San Juan Islands WA, etc. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

it's a problem with roots that go all the way back to the end of the 60's where a change in banking had an unexpected side effect

Yes, changes to banking coupled with increasingly favorable tax codes had the effect of making the wealthiest classes obscenely wealthier.

Oh and there was also the degradation of the value of work when the same suspects skimmed a couple 100 trillion dollars of capital gains off the top of our planet's economy instead of sharing them the way they did following the period between WW2 and the 60's that you mentioned.

Don't get me started on the natural capital that's been squandered alongside the social and human capital that's also been laid waste.

You don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you?

[Michael Hardner]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes, changes to banking coupled with increasingly favorable tax codes had the effect of making the wealthiest classes obscenely wealthier.

At some point global minimum taxes are coming in, and they've already started putting them.  I think that's why Elon wants to get to Mars so bad.  $100 says the first guy who puts his bootprint down on that sweet red soil will be one of his lawyers, ready to incorporate.