CPC Policy Convention 2023

[Queenmandy85]

This weekend, the CPC is holding their policy convention in Quebec. I've been to several Conservative policy conventions and they are always a lot of fun.

I spent this morning going through the resolutions that will be discussed. The thing about reolutions at these events is they are not binding on the leadership. I recall hearing about the resolution passed at an NDP convention years ago, that called for Canada to pull out of NATO. The leader, Ed Broadbent reportedly said, "That's nuts." The story may be apocryphal. 

Anyway, there were a couple of resolutions that called for fair treatment for veterans and another calling for bail reform. Not bad. 

Another resolution dealt with the CBC. 

"We believe that the control and operations of the CBC/SRC as an entity should be accomplished through independent, non-governmental funding." A few weeks ago, I had the chance to speak with my MP. He said the plan is to preserve funding for the French network and the radio arm of the CBC and reduce funding (not eliminate) to the English language TV arm. The resolution does not elaborate on what the "non-governmental funding" would look like. 

Where it gets really interesting is when you look at the resolutions to cut taxes:

"Capital gains on the sale of Canadian equities and capital property are currently subject to personal income taxation on 50% of the net capital gain. The Conservative Party supports elimination of taxation on capital gains accrued by Canadian holders of Canadian equities and property to a lifetime maximum of $1,000,000."

"We believe that there should be no federally imposed carbon taxes or cap and trade systems on either the provinces and territories or on the citizens of Canada."

Then you have the resolutions calling for spending a whole lot of money.

""We believe the government should introduce a system of program evaluation to ensure that all major government spending programs are independently evaluated on a regular basis. This will ensure that programs are meeting government priorities and delivering value for money." As they used to say about the CPR, they will spend a $1000to save a $1.

Capital gains on the sale of Canadian equities and capital property are currently subject to personal income taxation on 50% of the net capital gain. The Conservative Party supports elimination of taxation on capital gains accrued by Canadian holders of Canadian equities and property to a lifetime maximum of $1,000,000.

A Conservative Government will take steps to address the needs of Canadian Seniors by:

1. Increasing OAS and GIS benefits in line with Public Servant cost of living

increases.

2. Providing additional tax credits for low-income seniors; and

3. Offering additional financial assistance for those Canadian Seniors struggling with the cost of living.

The Conservative Party believes that all Canadians should have a reasonable opportunity to own their own homes and to have access to safe and affordable housing.

We support a broad-based tax relief, income support programs and tax incentives to make home ownership and rental accommodation more attainable and accessible. We will encourage financial institutions to develop a framework that allows for the consideration of a potential homeowner’s previous rental payment history when applying for a mortgage.

We believe that all governments should address homelessness by assisting in the provision of shelters and by recognizing, addressing and seeking solutions to contributing factors of homelessness.

We believe the government should partner and link with the respective jurisdictions of provincial, territorial and municipal governments, business initiatives and the work of social agencies and non-profit organizations, in dealing with housing, homelessness, social infrastructure and related support services, such as skills development, literacy, substance abuse treatment, health and social development.

We believe the government should work with the provinces and municipalities to develop framework agreements that help low-income city dwellers access affordable housing, through the use of tax incentives for private sector builders. We recognize that most renters live in urban centres, and that the pressures of population growth as well as certain economic factors have made it increasingly difficult for many renters to find housing.

We believe in increasing the small business revenue threshold for registering and charging GST/HST, from the original 1991 rate of $30,000, to its current inflation adjusted value, and then have it indexed yearly based on the Statistics Canada All-items Consumer Price Index at the all-Canada level."

And then on Defence spending:

"The Conservative Party of Canada supports Canada’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the principle of collective security. A Conservative Government will work towards spending at least the NATO recommended two (2) percent of our GDP on National Defence. As an Indo-Pacific nation, Conservatives support Canada joining the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QUAD Group) for strategic military cooperation, as well as charting a path to membership in the new elite defence pact AUKUS.

 

The Conservative Party of Canada believes that it is a fundamental purpose of Canadian defence policy to:

1. Defend our democratic freedom and territorial integrity, as it is the highest obligation of our federal government.

2. Preserve our current obligations, regionally and internationally.

3. Join forces with our allies, when in Canada’s best interests, to defend the rights and freedoms of

peoples throughout the world.

The Conservative Party of Canada will ensure Canada’s defence policy uses our foreign policy in guiding Canada’s national defence priorities. Defence starts at home and the threat environment has increased beyond our capabilities. Conservatives will meet these threats head-on by modernizing the Canadian Armed Forces.

The Conservative Party of Canada supports increasing resources for the military in the Canadian North in defence of our northern sovereignty and security, including improving detection and response capability, and creating local benefits including multi-user, multi-purpose infrastructure that leaves a positive legacy for northern communities.

Now just to repeat, "1. Defend our democratic freedom and territorial integrity, as it is the highest obligation of our federal government." This is a policy I have advocated for over fifty years. But I suspect the authors of this resolution haven't adequately considered how much tax money this would cost. The additional comitment to NATO is already going to add another $15 to $18 billion to the Defence budget. That is nothing compared to fulfilling defending our territorial integrity. 

Then there are resolutions dealing with healthcare:

"A Conservative government will protect children by prohibiting life altering medicinal or surgical interventions on minors under 18 to treat gender confusion or dysphoria, and encourage positive mental and physical health support for all Canadians suffering from gender dysphoria and related mental health challenges."

"Every Canadian is entitled to informed consent and bodily autonomy. Health professionals must disclose an uncensored risk benefit analysis for any treatment (including vaccines) while protecting patient privacy. No constitutional right shall be restricted for refusing medical treatments or disclosure. Our country shall promote a scientific, unprejudiced, balanced, open discourse."

The second resolution contradicts the first. If you are trans, you already know it by the time you are 13 or 14. Nobody tells you you are trans. You already know it. The first resolution prohibits the actions specified in the second. A trans-gender person  "is entitled to informed consent and bodily autonomy." Like the government of Saskatchewan, the people who come up with these ideas never talk to the individuals most affected by them. 

Finally, there is this one. I believe the whole country agrees with this one: (Even if it looks like it was lifted from the NDP policy book.)

"The Conservative Party believes all Canadians should have reasonable access to timely, quality health care services, regardless of their ability to pay.The provinces and territories should have maximum flexibility to ensure the delivery of medically necessary health services within a universal, public health care system. We support adding a sixth principle to the Canada Health Act to provide stable and transparent federal funding." 

 

This post is not a criticism of the CPC policy convention. On the contrary, it shows a healthy willingness to listen to the membership. My MP was on Global news and he pointed out there are always resolutions that make you shake your head. Some of the resolutions appear to be unaware that they are addressing issues that have already been solved. There are some that contradict others. Many are just mom and apple pie. But on the whole, it is not a package I could vote for. For one thing, it calls for a major spending spree. A policy convention is not the place to discuss tax increases, but anyone reading this will know to expect a larger deficit or a significant tax increase. 

Most importantly, there was no reference at all regarding the core conservative values of a party that calls itself conservative.

But, I will reserve judgement to see what comes out the other end.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Queenmandy85

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

This weekend, the CPC is holding their policy convention in Quebec. I've been to several Conservative policy conventions and they are always a lot of fun.

I spent this morning going through the resolutions that will be discussed. The thing about reolutions at these events is they are not binding on the leadership. I recall hearing about the resolution passed at an NDP convention years ago, that called for Canada to pull out of NATO. The leader, Ed Broadbent reportedly said, "That's nuts." The story may be apocryphal. 

Anyway, there were a couple of resolutions that called for fair treatment for veterans and another calling for bail reform. Not bad. 

Another resolution dealt with the CBC. 

"We believe that the control and operations of the CBC/SRC as an entity should be accomplished through independent, non-governmental funding." A few weeks ago, I had the chance to speak with my MP. He said the plan is to preserve funding for the French network and the radio arm of the CBC and reduce funding (not eliminate) to the English language TV arm. The resolution does not elaborate on what the "non-governmental funding" would look like. 

Where it gets really interesting is when you look at the resolutions to cut taxes:

"Capital gains on the sale of Canadian equities and capital property are currently subject to personal income taxation on 50% of the net capital gain. The Conservative Party supports elimination of taxation on capital gains accrued by Canadian holders of Canadian equities and property to a lifetime maximum of $1,000,000."

"We believe that there should be no federally imposed carbon taxes or cap and trade systems on either the provinces and territories or on the citizens of Canada."

Then you have the resolutions calling for spending a whole lot of money.

""We believe the government should introduce a system of program evaluation to ensure that all major government spending programs are independently evaluated on a regular basis. This will ensure that programs are meeting government priorities and delivering value for money." As they used to say about the CPR, they will spend a $1000to save a $1.

Capital gains on the sale of Canadian equities and capital property are currently subject to personal income taxation on 50% of the net capital gain. The Conservative Party supports elimination of taxation on capital gains accrued by Canadian holders of Canadian equities and property to a lifetime maximum of $1,000,000.

A Conservative Government will take steps to address the needs of Canadian Seniors by:

1. Increasing OAS and GIS benefits in line with Public Servant cost of living

increases.

2. Providing additional tax credits for low-income seniors; and

3. Offering additional financial assistance for those Canadian Seniors struggling with the cost of living.

The Conservative Party believes that all Canadians should have a reasonable opportunity to own their own homes and to have access to safe and affordable housing.

We support a broad-based tax relief, income support programs and tax incentives to make home ownership and rental accommodation more attainable and accessible. We will encourage financial institutions to develop a framework that allows for the consideration of a potential homeowner’s previous rental payment history when applying for a mortgage.

We believe that all governments should address homelessness by assisting in the provision of shelters and by recognizing, addressing and seeking solutions to contributing factors of homelessness.

We believe the government should partner and link with the respective jurisdictions of provincial, territorial and municipal governments, business initiatives and the work of social agencies and non-profit organizations, in dealing with housing, homelessness, social infrastructure and related support services, such as skills development, literacy, substance abuse treatment, health and social development.

We believe the government should work with the provinces and municipalities to develop framework agreements that help low-income city dwellers access affordable housing, through the use of tax incentives for private sector builders. We recognize that most renters live in urban centres, and that the pressures of population growth as well as certain economic factors have made it increasingly difficult for many renters to find housing.

We believe in increasing the small business revenue threshold for registering and charging GST/HST, from the original 1991 rate of $30,000, to its current inflation adjusted value, and then have it indexed yearly based on the Statistics Canada All-items Consumer Price Index at the all-Canada level."

And then on Defence spending:

"The Conservative Party of Canada supports Canada’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the principle of collective security. A Conservative Government will work towards spending at least the NATO recommended two (2) percent of our GDP on National Defence. As an Indo-Pacific nation, Conservatives support Canada joining the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QUAD Group) for strategic military cooperation, as well as charting a path to membership in the new elite defence pact AUKUS.

 

The Conservative Party of Canada believes that it is a fundamental purpose of Canadian defence policy to:

1. Defend our democratic freedom and territorial integrity, as it is the highest obligation of our federal government.

2. Preserve our current obligations, regionally and internationally.

3. Join forces with our allies, when in Canada’s best interests, to defend the rights and freedoms of

peoples throughout the world.

The Conservative Party of Canada will ensure Canada’s defence policy uses our foreign policy in guiding Canada’s national defence priorities. Defence starts at home and the threat environment has increased beyond our capabilities. Conservatives will meet these threats head-on by modernizing the Canadian Armed Forces.

The Conservative Party of Canada supports increasing resources for the military in the Canadian North in defence of our northern sovereignty and security, including improving detection and response capability, and creating local benefits including multi-user, multi-purpose infrastructure that leaves a positive legacy for northern communities.

Now just to repeat, "1. Defend our democratic freedom and territorial integrity, as it is the highest obligation of our federal government." This is a policy I have advocated for over fifty years. But I suspect the authors of this resolution haven't adequately considered how much tax money this would cost. The additional comitment to NATO is already going to add another $15 to $18 billion to the Defence budget. That is nothing compared to fulfilling defending our territorial integrity. 

Then there are resolutions dealing with healthcare:

"A Conservative government will protect children by prohibiting life altering medicinal or surgical interventions on minors under 18 to treat gender confusion or dysphoria, and encourage positive mental and physical health support for all Canadians suffering from gender dysphoria and related mental health challenges."

"Every Canadian is entitled to informed consent and bodily autonomy. Health professionals must disclose an uncensored risk benefit analysis for any treatment (including vaccines) while protecting patient privacy. No constitutional right shall be restricted for refusing medical treatments or disclosure. Our country shall promote a scientific, unprejudiced, balanced, open discourse."

The second resolution contradicts the first. If you are trans, you already know it by the time you are 13 or 14. Nobody tells you you are trans. You already know it. The first resolution prohibits the actions specified in the second. A trans-gender person  "is entitled to informed consent and bodily autonomy." Like the government of Saskatchewan, the people who come up with these ideas never talk to the individuals most affected by them. 

Finally, there is this one. I believe the whole country agrees with this one: (Even if it looks like it was lifted from the NDP policy book.)

"The Conservative Party believes all Canadians should have reasonable access to timely, quality health care services, regardless of their ability to pay.The provinces and territories should have maximum flexibility to ensure the delivery of medically necessary health services within a universal, public health care system. We support adding a sixth principle to the Canada Health Act to provide stable and transparent federal funding." 

 

This post is not a criticism of the CPC policy conversion. On the contrary, it shows a healthy willingness to listen to the membership. My MP was on Global news and he pointed out there are always resolutions that make you shake your head. Some of the resolutions appear to be unaware that they are addressing issues that have already been solved. There are some that contradict others. Many are just mom and apple pie. But on the whole, it is not a package I could vote for. For one thing, it calls for a major spending spree. A policy convention is not the place to discuss tax increases. 

Most importantly, there was no reference at all regarding the core conservative values of a party that calls itself conservative.

But, I will reserve judgement to see what comes out the other end.

Dude - you are not a conservative, you will never likely be a conservative, we appreciate the cosplay but you're fooling no one  

[CdnFox]

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The resolution does not elaborate on what the "non-governmental funding" would look like. 

Ad revenues.  They mean ad revenues.  Possibly memberships if the cbc wants to go that way.

As to the other resolutions - you claim they'll 'cost butloads of money' but they won't.  proper reviews and such save more money than they cost by far.  IF the libs do it - THEN it costs more because they'll hire friends who'll charge 10 times the going rate  

Most of the resolutions are about saving money. Taxing people less and spending less.

It's all good stuff for discussion and hashing out - a leader is not compelled to follow it but if they don't, they could find themselves in hot water pretty quick.  But yeah - they're not held to the crazier ideas.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

It will be a wonderful day when the state propaganda apparatus is dismantled.  I'll miss CBC TV but nobody watches regular TV anymore anyways.

[Queenmandy85]

36 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It will be a wonderful day when the state propaganda apparatus is dismantled.  I'll miss CBC TV but nobody watches regular TV anymore anyways.

Speak for yourself. ?

[Army Guy]

You surprised me queen , i thought you were setting up for a hit piece, instead it was well thought out, and i enjoyed reading it. 

I think the spending spree is needed if we are going to fix some of the issues, like health care and the military, purchasing a new home etc... 

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Dude - you are not a conservative, you will never likely be a conservative, we appreciate the cosplay but you're fooling no one  

I'm not sure what you think a Conservative is. It is a moot point however since the federal Conservative Party is dead federally.

Anyway, these conventions are fun and as you say, they don't move the needle so far as the next election is concerned, and hve little impact on actually government policy.

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It will be a wonderful day when the state propaganda apparatus is dismantled.  I'll miss CBC TV but nobody watches regular TV anymore anyways.

Left wing propaganda money pit.  Its time has come and gone.  I'll miss it, like I miss holes in my socks . . . . 

[myata]

10 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The thing about reolutions at these events is they are not binding on the leadership.

Just great. And what is? Anything? If the leadership of a parliamentary party (a real one, in a multi-party parliament) lost confidence of the members it would be out the next vote. And they know it very well. And in Canada, they know.

Edited September 8, 2023 by myata

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

 Anyway, these conventions are fun and as you say, they don't move the needle so far as the next election is concerned, and hve little impact on actually government policy.

Thanks for the thoughtful post.  The policy vehicle seems pretty tepid... I think the CBC resolution would be better if they keep TV News even though it's on the decline.  And pretty cynical for them to leave CBC Quebec untouched.

But if I understand correctly these come from the membership.  We have yet to see Poilievre's vision for Canada which presumably would be unveiled during an election campaign.

 

23 minutes ago, myata said:

Just great. And what is? Anything? If the leadership of a parliamentary party (a real one, in a multi-party parliament) lost confidence of the members it would be out the next vote. And they know it very well. And in Canada, they know.

QueenM's OP disproves that assertion by way of the Broadbent example.  Similarly I think there was some Climate Change initiative given to Scheer but he still had a Carbon Credits plan...

[myata]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Broadbent example

Last century? As opposed to working principle and daily practice? Wow.

[Michael Hardner]

53 minutes ago, myata said:

Last century? As opposed to working principle and daily practice? Wow.

Well there is also the other example and apparently some resolutions don't even make it to vote.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tasker-conservative-policy-convention-1.4798918

[Michael Hardner]

A more informed opinion from the NP

"The traditional explanation is that members need to feel they have a voice in the party, but everyone knows these policy proposals aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. (We just pretend otherwise when it suits us.) Political scientist Tom Flanagan has argued this style of (supposed) policy-making is simply unsuited to the “permanent campaign” style of politics to which we have all become accustomed."

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/selley-conservative-policy-conventions-media

[Queenmandy85]

9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I'm not sure what you think a Conservative is.

Let me rephrase that. I'm not sure we agree on what a conservative is. 

[Queenmandy85]

Last night on the CBC's National - At Issue, the panel said this was reminiscent of the last days of the Turner liberal administration before the Great Tory sweep under Brian Mulroney. Andrew Coyne said Pierre Poilievre shouldn't be where he is, especially in Ontario, but he is. Chantel Hebert pointed out that even liberal MP's see Prime Minister Trudeau as a leader with no plan and no hope. I'm paraphrasing but the consensus is that there is nothing left in the liberal toolkit that can turn this around. At least, that is how I interpreted it. If Mr. Poilievre can sustain this momentum until election day, he will win big, really big.

[I am Groot]

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

A few weeks ago, I had the chance to speak with my MP. He said the plan is to preserve funding for the French network and the radio arm of the CBC and reduce funding (not eliminate) to the English language TV arm. The resolution does not elaborate on what the "non-governmental funding" would look like. 

I don't think they'll get away with that without arousing anti-french sentiment. I certainly believe the English television CBC needs to be reformed. By all means, go through its management with a weed wacker and clear out all the wokeness. I don't believe privatizing it will help anyone.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Capital gains on the sale of Canadian equities and capital property are currently subject to personal income taxation on 50% of the net capital gain. The Conservative Party supports elimination of taxation on capital gains accrued by Canadian holders of Canadian equities and property to a lifetime maximum of $1,000,000."

Sounds good to me. They should do the same for dividends.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

"We believe that there should be no federally imposed carbon taxes or cap and trade systems on either the provinces and territories or on the citizens of Canada."

Waste of time anyway. Not going to accomplish anything useful that's worth the cost.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

A Conservative Government will take steps to address the needs of Canadian Seniors by:

1. Increasing OAS and GIS benefits in line with Public Servant cost of living

The problem is neither of these are pre-funded programs. Unlike CPP, the money has to come out of the budget and the amount grows as the number of seniors grow. Immigrants are also eligible for them. And I don't mean immigrants who come here in their 20s and 30s but those who come here in their 60s as sponsored parents and never work a day. 

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The Conservative Party believes that all Canadians should have a reasonable opportunity to own their own homes and to have access to safe and affordable housing.

Clash immigration. Slash foreign students. Slash foreign workers. Presto. A million or more apartments come open.

Anything else is mostly not going to accomplish much.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

And then on Defence spending:

"The Conservative Party of Canada supports Canada’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the principle of collective security. A Conservative Government will work towards spending at least the NATO recommended two (2) percent of our GDP on National Defence. As an Indo-Pacific nation, Conservatives support Canada joining the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QUAD Group) for strategic military cooperation, as well as charting a path to membership in the new elite defence pact AUKUS.

I want a promise to reach that level as fast as possible. I know you hate money for defense. But it is a dangerous world getting more dangerous. And if every other country can afford it so can we. Maybe we can just stop paying triple or quadruple what others are paying for military equipment to the likes of the Irvings.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The second resolution contradicts the first. If you are trans, you already know it by the time you are 13 or 14. Nobody tells you you are trans. You already know it

Oh, okay. Then we should change the laws to say no one who is over 18 can suddenly declare themselves trans. How about that? No more just growing your hair longer, calling yourself a woman, and then wagging your naked dick around at women and girls in changing rooms.

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Most importantly, there was no reference at all regarding the core conservative values of a party that calls itself conservative.

Likely because everyone already knows those are in place.

[I am Groot]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It will be a wonderful day when the state propaganda apparatus is dismantled.  I'll miss CBC TV but nobody watches regular TV anymore anyways.

It's funny but I was just thinking that last night. I was downstairs on the sofa in front of the big screen and flipping through what was available on Netflix, Prime, Disney, and Crave trying to remember the last time I watched anything from the networks. Do they put out nothing worth watching anymore? I began to lose interest in them when the era of reality TV came upon us and I've seen little since then to interest me. Of course, I rarely even look anymore. If I'm bored for a few minutes, or eating TV in the living room I'll put on stuff from  Youtube, not search through the networks.

Edited September 8, 2023 by I am Groot

[Queenmandy85]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

I want a promise to reach that level as fast as possible. I know you hate money for defense. But it is a dangerous world getting more dangerous. And if every other country can afford it so can we.

Just to correct the record, I have always advocated for a larger defence budget...a much larger defence budget. With 40 million people, we are no longer a small middle power. I do not like this nation having to rely on others to carry our burden or defend our borders. It is humiliating. My other issue, is if we are not willing to have more than a token military, starved for everything they need to make a difference, then the billions we do put into it are wasted money. We either make up our mind to have an effective military or not. We are living in a dangerous world with the mentality of a child seeking the protection from the adults. Canada is no longer a child, so it is time to grow up.

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Oh, okay. Then we should change the laws to say no one who is over 18 can suddenly declare themselves trans. How about that? No more just growing your hair longer, calling yourself a woman, and then wagging your naked dick around at women and girls in changing rooms.

I was the liason officer between my department and the local pride centre for quite a number of years. I got to know a number of trans people, both male to female and female to male. I have not only never met anyone who behaves in the manner you describe, I have never heard of anyone like that. You do not understand their situation. You need to do a lot more research. I am curious why you and others focus on Male to female transition but not female to Male? 

Just curious.

[Army Guy]

45 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I was the liason officer between my department and the local pride centre for quite a number of years. I got to know a number of trans people, both male to female and female to male. I have not only never met anyone who behaves in the manner you describe, I have never heard of anyone like that. You do not understand their situation. You need to do a lot more research. I am curious why you and others focus on Male to female transition but not female to Male? 

Just curious.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but when was the last time you seen a trans man compete professional in men's sports, and frankly i don't think many men would really care if a women changed in the men's locker room to be honest, atleast not to the extent of vice versa......The question has been put to men attempting to be women why not just have a 3 rd league, where trans community can compete on their own, with each other, i don't think they are interested in it, or it would have been splashed over the media, these men are more interested in winning via superior biology for a much needed ego boost. And if that is the case why does it have to be at the expense of women...does not seem that fair...

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Speak for yourself. ?

CTV is almost an exact replica of the CBC, which the taxpayer pays billions of dollars for.  So why waste the taxpayer money?  We get all the same programming and politics on CTV which is supposedly a private network.  

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I'm not sure what you think a Conservative is. It is a moot point however since the federal Conservative Party is dead federally.

 

I"m sure you have no idea in any case.  And sure - the fed conservative party is dead.  that's why they're polling so badly.  Ohhh wait....

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Anyway, these conventions are fun and as you say, they don't move the needle so far as the next election is concerned, and hve little impact on actually government policy.

They have a great deal of impact on gov't policy, and i didn't say otherwise.  but the gov't isn't beholden to it. So if the leader has run on 'no change to abortion laws' and they vote in a resolution that says' abortion laws' he can ignore it. But - he would be wise to be cautious about that.

Case in point - harper was all gung ho to revisit gay marriage. At the convention before the election and in between it was made clear that a lot of conservatives were not ok with that. So when he got in instead of having a vote on gay marriage he had a vote on whether or not they should have a vote on gay marriage   and of course the answer was 'no', and he said he'd fulfilled his promise and never spoke of it ever again

Conventions matter. It doesn't sound to me like you've ever actually been to one and that you've had very little to do with politics if you think they have no effect. They do.  They're an important part of the process and not just for rallying the troops

[Army Guy]

Liberals decide this move was a smart one

They decide to send our climate expert to crash the Conservatives convention...and he gets burned by the media...Not sure who is in charge of picking  pictures but this one does nothing for his image...Speaking of climate change, there was a massive climate change protest with over 12 people...kind of puts climate change in perspective in Quebec anyways...

 

Guilbeault crashes Conservative convention as Poilievre finds firmer footing in Quebec (msn.com)

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I am curious why you and others focus on Male to female transition but not female to Male? 

I think it must have something to do with the fact that straight guys think lesbians are hot.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I think it must have something to do with the fact that straight guys think lesbians are hot.

Women who pretend to be men won't beat men in men's sports. SO it's not unfair to the men. Knock yourself out if you're a woman who wants to compete with men in men's sports.  If you win you really earned it.

And a woman dressed as a man isn't going to go into a mens bathroom and rape a man. But men pretending to be women have done so to women.

I really should't have had to explain that.