Devon Archer Transcript proves Joe had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired to help end the investigation into his son's energy firm Burisma

[robosmith]

Archer Said the Opposite of What Republicans Claimed

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Devon Archer, who was Hunter Biden’s business partner, actually said the opposite of what House Republicans claimed, according to a transcript of his recent testimony.

That’s the pattern here. Comer and Jordan and others hype claims of Joe Biden’s involvement in Hunter Biden’s work only to see those claims collapse as more information is made public. Devon Archer’s testimony was hailed as a central breakthrough in implicating Joe Biden. Instead, it has a top ally of Hunter Biden stating under penalty of perjury that Joe Biden was not involved in Hunter Biden’s business and that Biden’s trip to Ukraine in 2015 was not centered on protecting Burisma at all. 

Quelle surprise LMAO

Edited August 10, 2023 by robosmith

[BeaverFever]

On 8/3/2023 at 2:54 PM, West said:

What was it Monday this week Archer PROVES that Hunter requested his dad interfer in Ukrainian politics on behalf of his business Burisma who's under investigation all over Europe for shady dealings. 

Tuesday they magically decide to indict Trump.

Youve got it backwards. As everyone knows, The Trump indictments have been in the works for LONG TIME and came as a airport to literally nobody  

This latest non-revelation about the usual Hunter Biden nonsense is the cooked-up distraction timed to redirect attention from the indictment. . 

[ironstone]

On 8/7/2023 at 3:09 PM, Hodad said:

Note that this actually comports with the internal conversation between Hunter and Archer: we can give the appearance of influence, but I can't actually get my data do to anything.

   

Joe got the prosecutor fired that was investigating Burisma. Burisma had Hunter on their payroll. Presumably, Burisma categorically did not want to be under investigation. Joe threatened Ukraine, either fire him or you don't get $1 billion in aid.

It sounds like Burisma did get something substantial in return for putting Hunter on the payroll.

Doesn't it?

[robosmith]

51 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Joe got the prosecutor fired that was investigating Burisma. Burisma had Hunter on their payroll. Presumably, Burisma categorically did not want to be under investigation. Joe threatened Ukraine, either fire him or you don't get $1 billion in aid.

It sounds like Burisma did get something substantial in return for putting Hunter on the payroll.

Doesn't it?

The Burisma "investigation" had already ENDED, so that was clearly NOT the reason for his firing.

You shouldn't listen to Shoken for your source, since Rudy coached him on what to say.

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Put simply, the chronology doesn’t work – the investigation into Burisma, where Hunter worked, was dormant by the time Shokin was pushed out. It would also represent a major historical anomaly. During Shokin’s 13 months in office, not one major figure was convicted. No oligarch. No politician. No ranking bureaucrat. It would appear unlikely he was in the middle of breaking the habit with the Bidens.

 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Joe got the prosecutor fired that was investigating Burisma. Burisma had Hunter on their payroll. Presumably, Burisma categorically did not want to be under investigation. Joe threatened Ukraine, either fire him or you don't get $1 billion in aid.

It sounds like Burisma did get something substantial in return for putting Hunter on the payroll.

Doesn't it?

You have the facts incorrect. The prosecutor, Shokin, was NOT investigating Burisma. It was long dormant. In fact, he wasn't investigating any corruption and was widely understood to be enabling and benefiting from corruption. That's why the entire Western world and the Ukrainian people wanted him fired, and why Biden was publicly proud of executing that policy.

Per the Archer testimony, Burisma's board was told that they had Shokin under control, and did not want him replaced with someone they didn't control.

So no, Joe Biden acted against Burisma's interests in getting Shokin fired.

[taxme]

On 8/3/2023 at 9:05 AM, West said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/devon-archer-hunter-used-joe-biden-as-defensive-leverage-to-send-right-signals-to-foreign-biz-partners

 

Point to note Burisma had pro Russian ties. 

Corrupt Joe. Very sad

Welcome to the world of the Biden mob crime family. Gawd only knows what that family is still up to and has been involved in criminally. FOX NEWS has been a great source for finding out about all of the crimes that have been committed by the Biden crime family. Biden and Zelensky are two peas on a pod and are in bed together and are ripping off the American taxpayer's with the billions of their tax dollars going to the other crime mob boss Nazi Zelensky.

Corrupt Joe is right. Very sad indeed. ☹️ 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Welcome to the world of the Biden mob crime family. Gawd only knows what that family is still up to and has been involved in criminally. FOX NEWS has been a great source for finding out about all of the crimes that have been committed by the Biden crime family. Biden and Zelensky are two peas on a pod and are in bed together and are ripping off the American taxpayer's with the billions of their tax dollars going to the other crime mob boss Nazi Zelensky.

Corrupt Joe is right. Very sad indeed. ☹️ 

FOS LIES has been PROVEN a LIAR to the tune of $800M in damages.

[ironstone]

On 8/19/2023 at 2:58 PM, Hodad said:

You have the facts incorrect. The prosecutor, Shokin, was NOT investigating Burisma. It was long dormant. In fact, he wasn't investigating any corruption and was widely understood to be enabling and benefiting from corruption. That's why the entire Western world and the Ukrainian people wanted him fired, and why Biden was publicly proud of executing that policy.

Per the Archer testimony, Burisma's board was told that they had Shokin under control, and did not want him replaced with someone they didn't control.

So no, Joe Biden acted against Burisma's interests in getting Shokin fired.

It depends on what sources we have more trust in.

Ukraine Prosecutor That Biden Got Fired Says He Was Told To Back Off Investigation, Report Says | The Daily Wire

Former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin — who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden pressured the president of Ukraine to fire him as he investigated a company, Burisma, that employed Biden’s son, Hunter — says that he was told to back off the investigation into the company before he was fired.

“President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine,” the notes continued.

Two conflicting viewpoints regarding this story. 

Can we all agree that Hunter did get paid an awful lot of money by Burisma? Or do you think that is completely false as well?

[robosmith]

57 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It depends on what sources we have more trust in.

Ukraine Prosecutor That Biden Got Fired Says He Was Told To Back Off Investigation, Report Says | The Daily Wire

Former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin — who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden pressured the president of Ukraine to fire him as he investigated a company, Burisma, that employed Biden’s son, Hunter — says that he was told to back off the investigation into the company before he was fired.

“President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine,” the notes continued.

Two conflicting viewpoints regarding this story. 

Why would you believe Shokin's EXCUSES about his firing? It's not like he's an unself-interested bystander. 

Shokin WAS COACHED by Rudy on what to say in order to TAR JOE politically.

Rudy spent a lot of time in Ukraine doing Trump's dirty work to tar Joe in the lead up to the election.

57 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Can we all agree that Hunter did get paid an awful lot of money by Burisma? Or do you think that is completely false as well?

Hunter clearly got a lot of money, but there is NO EVIDENCE of a quid pro quo by JOE.

[Nationalist]

On 8/19/2023 at 2:01 PM, robosmith said:

The Burisma "investigation" had already ENDED, so that was clearly NOT the reason for his firing.

You shouldn't listen to Shoken for your source, since Rudy coached him on what to say.

 

Giggle...ya know ya got Libbies by the truth...when they begin screaming stupid shit.

[Nationalist]

38 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Why would you believe Shokin's EXCUSES about his firing? It's not like he's an unself-interested bystander. 

Shokin WAS COACHED by Rudy on what to say in order to TAR JOE politically.

Rudy spent a lot of time in Ukraine doing Trump's dirty work to tar Joe in the lead up to the election.

Hunter clearly got a lot of money, but there is NO EVIDENCE of a quid pro quo by JOE.

Pssst...

 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

It depends on what sources we have more trust in.

Ukraine Prosecutor That Biden Got Fired Says He Was Told To Back Off Investigation, Report Says | The Daily Wire

Former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin — who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden pressured the president of Ukraine to fire him as he investigated a company, Burisma, that employed Biden’s son, Hunter — says that he was told to back off the investigation into the company before he was fired.

“President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine,” the notes continued.

Two conflicting viewpoints regarding this story. 

Can we all agree that Hunter did get paid an awful lot of money by Burisma? Or do you think that is completely false as well?

The fired guy being salty is no surprise, but people from his office confirmed that there was no investigation, Archer confirmed what the Burisma board was told (they wanted to keep Shokin). And remember, the entire Western world wanted Shokin fired because he was enabling corruption. He blocked a UK investigation of Burisma and that was the final straw. They decided enough was enough. This wasn't a Biden pet project or favor. It was the US government (Republicans included) the UK, the EU, the IMF and the Ukrainian people. That's why Joe was boasting about it.

It's getting pretty kooky to reduce all of that to Joe doing a favor for Hunter.

As for the money, I don't actually think Hunter got paid all that much in the grand scale of things. Certainly not enough to have others move and manipulate geopolitics at the highest levels. As Archer explained, that money didn't go right into their pockets. It went into the business and they took home a considerably smaller portion. -- it's a good salary for a company man, but it's simply not world-moving money. For a sense of scale, think of it this way: Joe made $16M+ in 2017 from books and speeches. And he can do that year after year. Nobody is impressed with Hunter's relative pittance or risking big paydays to help him earn it. 

What's universally agreed upon is that Hunter's market value was considerably higher because of who his father was. People will pay more if they think the relationship potentially includes that level of access and influence. It's also clear that Hunter played up that angle, riding his father's coat tails. 

 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Pssst...

 

Apparently, you STILL don't understand that Joe was implementing US policy for the POTUS, AND most of European nations's leaders. LMAO

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Apparently, you STILL don't understand that Joe was implementing US policy for the POTUS, AND most of European nations's leaders. LMAO

Ya...right...

[Rebound]

16 hours ago, ironstone said:

It depends on what sources we have more trust in.

Ukraine Prosecutor That Biden Got Fired Says He Was Told To Back Off Investigation, Report Says | The Daily Wire

Former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin — who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden pressured the president of Ukraine to fire him as he investigated a company, Burisma, that employed Biden’s son, Hunter — says that he was told to back off the investigation into the company before he was fired.

“President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine,” the notes continued.

Two conflicting viewpoints regarding this story. 

Can we all agree that Hunter did get paid an awful lot of money by Burisma? Or do you think that is completely false as well?

Gee, the guy who was fired for corruption tells a different story. Does he have anyone who can back up his nonsense? 

• September 2015: US Ambassador to Ukraine speech calls out for outster of Shotkin in all but name. 
• December 2015: Biden calls for ouster of Shotkin
• March 2016: Ukraine Rada assembly casts 289 votes to oust Shotkin

You ask one excellent question: Can we agree that Hunter got paid an awful lot of money by Burisma, as first reported by the New York Times? Yes, I think we can. Do other Yale Law graduates get paid $1 million a year for their work? Yes, they do, and I think we can all agree THAT is a lot of money. 

Companies pay millions to prestigious law firms all the time. Trump is spending tens of millions on lawyers. That is not corrupt in and of itself.

Did Burisma pay Hunter Biden because he was the son of the US Vice President? Most likely. But is that itself corrupt? No. Was Burisma a corrupt entity? Yes. Burisma was a Russian company run by a Russian oligarch inside Ukraine. They benefited from Russia's invasion of Crimea, and the owner of Burisma fled to Russia after Zelensky was elected. 

It is definitely believable that Burisma paid Hunter Biden all that money because of the prestige and the Biden name. Like it or not, that is not corrupt. There is zero hard evidence of corruption on Hunter Biden's part as of now, and even if he did something corrupt, that does not prove that his father performed a corrupt act. Having dinner or coffee with someone is not corrupt. A telephone call is not corrupt. There needs to be proof of actual corruption, not "what-ifs" and "maybes" and "connect the dots." 

[Deluge]

On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 AM, West said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/devon-archer-hunter-used-joe-biden-as-defensive-leverage-to-send-right-signals-to-foreign-biz-partners

 

Point to note Burisma had pro Russian ties. 

Corrupt Joe. Very sad

I'm not surprised. Career politicians like this plagiarist should've been booted out of Washington decades ago. 

On 8/10/2023 at 11:00 AM, robosmith said:

Archer Said the Opposite of What Republicans Claimed

Quelle surprise LMAO

Trump is clean. 

All the focus needs to be on the hair sniffer and his crack head son. 

[Deluge]

On 8/13/2023 at 7:08 AM, BeaverFever said:

Youve got it backwards. As everyone knows, The Trump indictments have been in the works for LONG TIME and came as a airport to literally nobody  

This latest non-revelation about the usual Hunter Biden nonsense is the cooked-up distraction timed to redirect attention from the indictment. . 

You mean the manufacture of evidence against Trump has been in the works for a long time. 

One thing about you election riggers is your approach to lying & cheating certainly is NOT half-assed.  

Edited August 21, 2023 by Deluge

[Rebound]

34 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You mean the manufacture of evidence against Trump has been in the works for a long time. 

One thing about you election riggers is your approach to lying & cheating certainly is NOT half-assed.  

The day after Trump comes up with the word "riggers," you use it? You friggin' Zombie. Can't you think for yourself?

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

The day after Trump comes up with the word "riggers," you use it? You friggin' Zombie. Can't you think for yourself?

When did Trump first use it? I'll bet I started using it before he did! 

 

[taxme]

On 8/19/2023 at 2:12 PM, robosmith said:

FOS LIES has been PROVEN a LIAR to the tune of $800M in damages.

Ya, so what. Everybody phks up sometimes. Even you, comrade. CNN has been sued many times from the many lies that they have told. CNN has already proven itself to be just another MSM bull chit spreader.

So, what about the Biden crime family? Anything to say about that old fart and his crime family? ?

[taxme]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

The day after Trump comes up with the word "riggers," you use it? You friggin' Zombie. Can't you think for yourself?

It's quite obvious that you cannot think for yourself, zombie. The prosecutor was fired because he was taking on the Biden crime family. We all know that the Biden crime family are nothing more than a gang of Nazi like thugs. 

Billions in American tax dollars sent to corrupt Nazi Zelensky. Where did all that money go? No one seems to know. 

Millions of American tax dollars spent on military war equipment sent to Ukraine. Most of it sold off on the black market. 

Gawd, zombie, you truly are as dumb as you appear to be. ?

 

[taxme]

7 hours ago, Deluge said:

You mean the manufacture of evidence against Trump has been in the works for a long time. 

One thing about you election riggers is your approach to lying & cheating certainly is NOT half-assed.  

The demonrats have had two years to bring charges against Trump. The only reason now for all of those indictments is because ever since Trump decided that he was running for President again, out came the Biden mobsters who are now trying to nail Trump's azz. The commie liars will lose. This is their last hoorah in trying to bring down Trump before they get their asses kicked and defeated in the next American election.

And when Trump wins the election, the Biden family are in for a big revenge surprise along with the rest of the communists in America who have been trying to destroy America for the past two years. The demonrats did steal the election. ? 

Note. It's funny that when Hillary said that she lost the election thru fraud, she was never charged for saying so. But because Trump said the same thing about the last election, Trump is now being charged for daring to say the same thing. ?

Edited August 21, 2023 by taxme

[robosmith]

57 minutes ago, taxme said:

Ya, so what. Everybody phks up sometimes. Even you, comrade. CNN has been sued many times from the many lies that they have told. CNN has already proven itself to be just another MSM bull chit spreader.

So, what about the Biden crime family? Anything to say about that old fart and his crime family? ?

Selling influence is NOT ILLEGAL. Delivering FAVORS might be illegal, but there's NO EVIDENCE Joe was involved NOR that HAPPENED.

46 minutes ago, taxme said:

It's quite obvious that you cannot think for yourself, zombie. The prosecutor was fired because he was taking on the Biden crime family. We all know that the Biden crime family are nothing more than a gang of Nazi like thugs. 

Billions in American tax dollars sent to corrupt Nazi Zelensky. Where did all that money go? No one seems to know. 

Millions of American tax dollars spent on military war equipment sent to Ukraine. Most of it sold off on the black market. 

Gawd, zombie, you truly are as dumb as you appear to be. ?

You mean YOU DON'T KNOW. It's quite OBVIOUS it's been used for military equipment DELIVERED FROM THE US. Duh

[robosmith]

40 minutes ago, taxme said:

The demonrats have had two years to bring charges against Trump. The only reason now for all of those indictments is because ever since Trump decided that he was running for President again, out came the Biden mobsters who are now trying to nail Trump's azz. The commie liars will lose. This is their last hoorah in trying to bring down Trump before they get their asses kicked and defeated in the next American election.

And when Trump wins the election, the Biden family are in for a big revenge surprise along with the rest of the communists in America who have been trying to destroy America for the past two years. The demonrats did steal the election. ? 

Note. It's funny that when Hillary said that she lost the election thru fraud, she was never charged for saying so. But because Trump said the same thing about the last election, Trump is now being charged for daring to say the same thing. ?

Nope. Putting together those cases is VERY COMPLEX and it was DONE on an ACCELERATED SCHEDULE. Duh

[taxme]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Selling influence is NOT ILLEGAL. Delivering FAVORS might be illegal, but there's NO EVIDENCE Joe was involved NOR that HAPPENED.

You mean YOU DON'T KNOW. It's quite OBVIOUS it's been used for military equipment DELIVERED FROM THE US. Duh

It may not be illegal, but it is unethical. FOX NEWS has produced and shown that there is plenty of evidence to convict the Biden crime family on lots of criminal behavior. What the phk are you talking about? Joey boy was involved in all of Hunter's crooked dealings. Hunter could not get away with all of the crooked things that he has done if it were not for his old man, the illegal president of the USA. 

Most of the military equipment sent to Ukraine has been sold off on the black market. Billions of American tax dollars sent to Zelensky has gone missing in action. It is said that Zelensky is a multi millionaire thanks in part to the stupid American taxpayer who appears to not give a crap about where has all the money gone. And then most Americans cry about high gas prices and food costs. 

Imagine what those billions of tax dollars, sent to a Nazi dictator in Ukraine, could have done for Americans? There is no money for Americans, but there is plenty of money for Ukraine. Wake up, robot. ?