Womens tears are making politics - and society - more feminine.

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Back to the point,

Life is not as taxing as it used to be. The need for males superior strength has declined. There is no unringing this bell. Labor saving technology, the internet, greater economic fortunes, and technology as a whole have changed life. 

And what?

Left without interference governmental and societal interference to degrade it more natural aggressiveness of males will cause them to dominate most industries and businesses, make more money, and control politics. Women have to be 'encouraged' to enter certain professions, given special help, have quotas provided for them, etc. There are women in professions like the military, policing, fire, EMTs, etc. because of quotas, not because they're as good as men. Very few are. Fifty percent of the Liberal cabinet are women because Trudeau made a quota, not because they care about merit. The government browbeats businesses to put more women in the boardrooms and pressures universities through grants to push forward more women in STEM fields even though women don't want to go into those fields to nearly the extent men do.

[impartialobserver]

Just now, I am Groot said:

And what?

Left without interference governmental and societal interference to degrade it more natural aggressiveness of males will cause them to dominate most industries and businesses, make more money, and control politics. Women have to be 'encouraged' to enter certain professions, given special help, have quotas provided for them, etc. There are women in professions like the military, policing, fire, EMTs, etc. because of quotas, not because they're as good as men. Very few are. Fifty percent of the Liberal cabinet are women because Trudeau made a quota, not because they care about merit. The government browbeats businesses to put more women in the boardrooms and pressures universities through grants to push forward more women in STEM fields even though women don't want to go into those fields to nearly the extent men do.

Doomsday theorist.... and that concludes my taking you seriously. 

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Doomsday theorist.... and that concludes my taking you seriously. 

That's okay. I never took you seriously. When I saw your name I thought "Yeaaaah, I bet."

I mean, you can't even get your tenses right. This is not a prediction of tomorrow. It's a statement of fact of today. And everything I wrote is proveable. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by I am Groot

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

That's okay. I never took you seriously. When I saw your name I thought "Yeaaaah, I bet."

I mean, you can't even get your tenses right. This is not a prediction of tomorrow. It's a statement of fact of today. And everything I wrote is proveable. 

You remind me of the folks that complain about the DH in baseball or the lack of physicality in pro basketball. The world has changed.. much to your chagrin and it will keep changing whether you like it or not. Your whining from the sidelines changes nothing. 

 

[I am Groot]

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I am a proponent of isolating the ignorants and trolls on here, but the fact is that leaves few actual 'conservatives' to debate with.  
 

Why would you want to debate with conservatives if YOU are a conservative? Wouldn't you want to debate with liberals and socialists?

[CITIZEN_2015]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You want to kill Christians who oppose reproductive rights in Canada?  
 

I think killing them is a step too far.  Maybe voting them out of power would be enough?

What the hell you are talking about. Are you out of your mind?

First off I never said anything about killing anyone in the post you quoted or anywhere else. The slogan of death to something means you want to END that ideology or way of thinking not to take the life of believers who are misguided. Second, I wasn't referring to Christianity when it comes to discrimination against women. If you want to see discrimination against women then travel to mid east.

[I am Groot]

2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

You remind me of the folks that complain about the DH in baseball or the lack of physicality in pro basketball. The world has changed.. much to your chagrin and it will keep changing whether you like it or not. Your whining from the sidelines changes nothing. 

Nothing you said has any meaning nor addresses anything I said. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

Nothing you said has any meaning nor addresses anything I said. 

Except that it does. The reason for these changes in pro sports was that folks wanted more offense.. higher scores. Inevitable evolution. Labor saving technology, the internet, and greater economic fortunes are going to give rise to certain realities.. inevitable evolution. I have a son and I teach him to adapt and make the most of what he has right now.. Wanting a utopian fantasy that does not exist is for 20-pt. IQ types. 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 

I mean, you can't even get your tenses right. This is not a prediction of tomorrow. It's a statement of fact of today.

Now now - it might not be his fault, maybe he made a mistake because  he's just two tense!!!  ??? BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!

 

Hey - Leggo my keyboard! GIve it VOUG)SUT oww! BY((*AUTEU"  Hey! SOGBUOUTO stop hitting me! BOUURE)U*_)BU)B

[I am Groot]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Except that it does. The reason for these changes in pro sports was that folks wanted more offense.. higher scores. Inevitable evolution. Labor saving technology, the internet, and greater economic fortunes are going to give rise to certain realities.. inevitable evolution. I have a son and I teach him to adapt and make the most of what he has right now.. Wanting a utopian fantasy that does not exist is for 20-pt. IQ types. 

Again, this has nothing whatsooever to do with or addresses anything I wrote. You seem to be arguing with yourself and drawing on a well of anti-male prejudice which appears to run pretty deep. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by I am Groot

[Michael Hardner]

20 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Why would you want to debate with conservatives if YOU are a conservative? Wouldn't you want to debate with liberals and socialists?

I debate with everyone.  Why would you discriminate?  I argue less with conservatives like @bcsapper than others.

[TreeBeard]

23 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

What the hell you are talking about. Are you out of your mind?

First off I never said anything about killing anyone in the post you quoted or anywhere else. The slogan of death to something means you want to END that ideology or way of thinking not to take the life of believers who are misguided. Second, I wasn't referring to Christianity when it comes to discrimination against women. If you want to see discrimination against women then travel to mid east.

“Death and destruction … to people who oppose women’s rights” is what you said.  Maybe English isn’t your first language?   But “death to people” is not death to an ideology.  
 

I’m more concerned with rights here, in Canada, as that is what affects us here, in Canada.  I hope Canada provides amnesty to women from the Middle East.    And for those who may be persecuted in the USA if they try and get an abortion elsewhere.  
 

I like your sentiment of killing regressive ideologies though. 

[TreeBeard]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I debate with everyone.  Why would you discriminate?  I argue less with conservatives like @bcsapper than others.

I think it’s more important to call out “your own” when they have bad ideas than those on the opposite side of the political spectrum.   Why wouldn’t you debate other conservatives when their ideas are bad?

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

   Why wouldn’t you debate other conservatives when their ideas are bad?

I find that small differences in ideas I'm not interested to talk about. Most of the Chuds that I have on ignore will start the conversation with Trudeau is a Marxist so there's not much headspace to build on really.

[impartialobserver]

37 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Again, this has nothing whatsooever to do with or addresses anything I wrote. You seem to be arguing with yourself and drawing on a well of anti-male prejudice which appears to run pretty deep. 

Anti-male.... you are the typical internet forum poster who can't help but make assumptions.

I love how seeing the writing on the wall makes me anti-whatever. So when I see a rain cloud coming..I must hate the area that is going to get rained upon. 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I debate with everyone.  Why would you discriminate? 

And also

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Most of the Chuds that I have on ignore....

sigh. And the left wonders why we don't take them seriously.

[I am Groot]

20 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Anti-male.... you are the typical internet forum poster who can't help but make assumptions.

I love how seeing the writing on the wall makes me anti-whatever.

Are you suggesting it's wrong to judge your opinions based on what you write?

20 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So when I see a rain cloud coming..I must hate the area that is going to get rained upon. 

You are not making weather predictions based on meteorology but on astrology.

[impartialobserver]

17 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Are you suggesting it's wrong to judge your opinions based on what you write?

You are not making weather predictions based on meteorology but on astrology.

Can you quote me directly stating something "Anti-male"... now no opinions, inferring, or interpretations. 

No, I am making predictions based on 45 years of life experience. Have witnessed the spread of technology (dont try to play stupid about this one.. this forum is an example of that), labor saving devices, and greater economic fortunes.. If you have not seen this.. where have you been?

By your logic, If I predict that a given state's population is going to grow... i must hate them. Too funny. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by impartialobserver

[Americana Antifa]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Do you need me to post the dozens of times where you literally say the jews are nazis?

Only to troll you because you kept claiming I seriously made that argument.

But I get it, you can't defend your dogshit takes, so all you can do is troll. It's fine, you're conservative, you have to.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Only to troll you because you kept claiming I seriously made that argument.

Well that's a lie. You do it once it's a troll. You do it all the time, it's not a troll anymore. Sorry. And you were very explicit that you DID mean isreal and it's gov't were the nazis ,

Nobody believes the troll excuse - you brought up jews in a negative light before then out of the blue when nobody had mentioned them  as well.

Its like walking up to a black person and calling them a N----er again and again and then trying to claim you were just kidding! Honest! Ya big N---er! Ha! Just trolling ya!  But you're a total N---er! Ooops fooled ya!

It's not ok. Nobody normal does that. It's not trolling. Its you expressing what you believe and then trying to pretend you were just fooling knowing that it's ALWAYS wrong to do that.

Repetatively and consistantly referring to jewish people as nazi's or saying they're 'the problem' or comparing them to the actions of germany in ww2 or suggesting that it's ok for them to be wiped out, all of those things are ALWAYS bad to say There is no such thing as 'trolling'  with that.

The left has always been anti-semetic for whatever reason (i've never understood why) but you're taking it WAY too far.

[Americana Antifa]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that's a lie. You do it once it's a troll. You do it all the time, it's not a troll anymore. 

I only do it to you, though, since there's no point in taking a clown like you seriously.

Seriously, look at this:

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Sorry. And you were very explicit that you DID mean isreal and it's gov't were the nazis ,

I was saying that for the Palestinians, Hamas is the lesser evil to the Israeli government, much like how for the Jews, the Soviet Union was the lesser evil to Nazi Germany.

But because you can't defend your takes, you just pretended that I was saying Jews are nazis because that sounds crazy and offensive.

@Contrarian These are conservatives, my dude. It's a fundamentally anti-reality ideology, so they'll say anything that they thinks helps them regardless of truth. It's that "alternative facts" flow.

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I only do it to you, though, since there's no point in taking a clown like you seriously.

No you've done it with others as well and as noted it's NEVER ok.

Your comment about the jews being like the nazi's in palestine wasn't even to me.

11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Seriously, look at this:

I was saying that for the Palestinians, Hamas is the lesser evil to the Israeli government, much like how for the Jews, the Soviet Union was the lesser evil to Nazi Germany.

Yes - you compared isreal to the nazis.  That is a direct comparison - and you did say isreal. And you weren't saying that to me.

And i asked you to clarify that comment and then you said "oh i didnt' say ALL isrealies are nazis, just their gov't".  Very explicity.

Then i pointed out this is the gov't the people elected and you said basically 'well i guess the jewish people ARE nazis."

And you've repeated that dozens of times, and not just to me.

That's when you aren't suggesting jews are 'the problem' etc.  I pointed out your anti-jewish sentiment before this.

You slipped up and exposed your hatred of jewish people whom you think of as nazis, and now that I pointed out what's going to happen if someone reports that you're suddenly pretending it's a joke.

It' s no joke. It's not ok to say that. Ever

[Moonbox]

19 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I don't know man, when one says: ALL conservatives are of the extremist ideology and she is a leftist, does that make her radical left wing? I say yes. 

Does Fox's style make him a fascist? I say no.

Of course he's not a fascist, but that was never my point, was it?   

19 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I think there are other terms, maybe call his style as "trolling"?  - if one does not like him, but the word fascist for just his debating style is worthy of someone from the radical <-- left wing. I stand by that position.

"Radical left" isn't any better.  It's just the latest lazy (and meaningless) heuristic for the polarized to throw around at each other.  Regardless, it's hard to believe you were really following their debate if the word "fascist" is all you chose to zero in on, especially considering how often these terms are thrown around on this circus of a forum.  Comparing their behavior and their content is night and day.  One has a bias.  The other is an aggressive buffoon just looking for attention.  

Edited April 12, 2023 by Moonbox

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Of course he's not a fascist, but that was never my point, was it?   

"Radical left" isn't any better.  It's just the latest lazy (and meaningless) heuristic for the polarized to throw around at each other.  Regardless, it's hard to believe you were really following their debate if the word "fascist" is all you chose to zero in on, especially considering how often these terms are thrown around on this circus of a forum.  Comparing their behavior and their content is night and day.  One has a bias.  The other is an aggressive buffoon just looking for attention.  

Awww poor guy 

This is pretty common - someone gets an inferiority complex because they see someone else as superior, so rather than address them directly they try to bad mouth them to others.

Talk about someone looking for attention

I guess i live rent free in your head these days. You don't seem to be able to stop thinking and talking about me

Kinda creepy but whatever.

[Moonbox]

16 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

If someone were to use the word 'fascist' against you and ALL, ALL, ALL I would respond in the same way I did in this case - by stating my opinion.

and if someone is shitting all over the forums all day, I will continue to respond with my opinion of that.  ?

16 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Today, CdnFox started two threads in favor of their ideas, while your last thread was in January. Please don't tell me you have a life - of course, you do - but try to promote discussion at least once a week with a thread. I'll contribute. 

Starting new threads scores you no points, and there's nothing inherently worthwhile to it (especially if it's one of the typical twitter drops or an article link with one sentence attached - usually the latest iteration of Trudeaumanbad).  

If I have something new and interesting to talk about, I'll start a thread and put some actual effort into it and post it.  Most of the folks who used to do that on this forum don't post much anymore, or have left for other forums altogether on account of how many aggressively dumb trolls there are sucking up all of the oxygen.