Womens tears are making politics - and society - more feminine.

[Americana Antifa]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - NO THEY WERE NOT!   They would have been mad if she HADN'T been a woman. Captain marvel was a woman Why don't you post where all these "conservatives" are "upset" about the female character Captian Marvel being played by a female.   

LOL - well you really screwed that up didn't you  -  just when i think you can't make yourself look worse...

 

Oh, you silly little incel. Conservatives weren't mad about Captain Marvel being portrayed by a woman. Conservatives were saying the movie is WOKE because Captain Marvel, a woman, is the main hero in the film. They said the same thing about Black Panther. Not because Black Panther is black, but because he's black and the main character of a movie.

Conservatives know they can't be super open with their racism and sexism. They have to make it look like they're just anti-sjw. But if you really look at what they're complaining about, it's usually just that a person from a group they hate is getting too much attention or being portrayed in a way that goes against stereotypes. They're cool with Super Mario rescuing Princess Peach, they're not cool with Princess Peach being one of the heroes on Mario's team.

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Interesting - so you couldn't find a SINGLE EXAMPLE  of conservatives mad about Ms Marvel, is that correct?

So instead you put up what is clearly a gag about a 'super mario' movie. And the joke isn't even about a female super hero - it's about the "Traditional damsel in distress'    LOLOL

Tell me you're a failure wihtout telling me  

Well folks - there you go. AS i said - lying her ass off.  No conservatives were mad about a Female super hero as she claimed, and it was retarded to suggest otherwise.

[Americana Antifa]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Interesting - so you couldn't find a SINGLE EXAMPLE  of conservatives mad about Ms Marvel, is that correct?

Did I say I was going to?

My argument is that conservatives get mad when a woman is in a position of power. And here is an example of that happening.

Is the problem that Super Mario is a bad movie? No, because these people haven't even seen it yet. Their only issue if that Princess Peach is one of the heroes in this film. You can deflect all you want, you're too much of a beta sissy to admit when you're wrong. But anyone else can watch the video I posted and see that I'm correct.

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Oh, you silly little incel. Conservatives weren't mad about Captain Marvel being portrayed by a woman.

Two minues earlier.....

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Not the point. Conservatives were mad that after like twenty movies, the MCU finally had a movie where the main hero is a woman.

ROFLMAO Man - you just keep painting yourself into a corner don't you    "It's not that she was a woman, it's that she was a woman!!! 

And you still can't find a single example of conservatives actually being mad about it HAAHAHAHAHAHA   

And why would we be - as a pointed out conservative men rarely complain about being able to see a sexy girl in spandex. And most of us grew up with her as a very popular character from the 80's on.

Could you fail ANY harder!

23 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives know they can't be super open with their racism and sexism.

Ohhhh IIIIII Gotcha -  their sexism is SOOOOO well hidden that it's completely invisible!!!  Nobody can see it!! But let me guess - you've got super secret glasses that you put on and ONLY you can see it, and thus began your quest to expose these even aliens living amongst us!!!

Yeah - i think i DID see THAT movie

Conservative guys love tough women. We love action heroines. And we love well told stories.

It's when the script OBVIOUSLY attempts to shoe horn in something in the name of woke politics and it ruins the story that we get angry.

Sorry sweeie - looks like you done messed yourself again on this one   LOL!

[Zeitgeist]

25 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Oh, you silly little incel. Conservatives weren't mad about Captain Marvel being portrayed by a woman. Conservatives were saying the movie is WOKE because Captain Marvel, a woman, is the main hero in the film. They said the same thing about Black Panther. Not because Black Panther is black, but because he's black and the main character of a movie.

Conservatives know they can't be super open with their racism and sexism. They have to make it look like they're just anti-sjw. But if you really look at what they're complaining about, it's usually just that a person from a group they hate is getting too much attention or being portrayed in a way that goes against stereotypes. They're cool with Super Mario rescuing Princess Peach, they're not cool with Princess Peach being one of the heroes on Mario's team.

You make so many assumptions about people.  I think it’s good to have black and female action heroes.  You keep trying to find racism to justify your extreme points of view.

[Americana Antifa]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Two minues earlier.....

ROFLMAO Man - you just keep painting yourself into a corner don't you    "It's not that she was a woman, it's that she was a woman!!! 

And you still can't find a single example of conservatives actually being mad about it HAAHAHAHAHAHA   

And why would we be - as a pointed out conservative men rarely complain about being able to see a sexy girl in spandex. And most of us grew up with her as a very popular character from the 80's on.

Could you fail ANY harder!

Ohhhh IIIIII Gotcha -  their sexism is SOOOOO well hidden that it's completely invisible!!!  Nobody can see it!! But let me guess - you've got super secret glasses that you put on and ONLY you can see it, and thus began your quest to expose these even aliens living amongst us!!!

Yeah - i think i DID see THAT movie

Conservative guys love tough women. We love action heroines. And we love well told stories.

It's when the script OBVIOUSLY attempts to shoe horn in something in the name of woke politics and it ruins the story that we get angry.

Sorry sweeie - looks like you done messed yourself again on this one   LOL!

I can tell you're getting mad because you're OD'ing on the smiley faces.

Anyway, you're moving the goalposts. My argument is pretty clear and I presented an example. Conservatives don't like when women are portrayed heroically. And I gave an example of that. You can post all the smiles you want, but we both know that you're crying because you can't argue against me on this.

 

[Americana Antifa]

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You make so many assumptions about people.  I think it’s good to have black and female action heroes.  You keep trying to find racism to justify your extreme points of view.

Maybe you, personally, think it's good, but a large segment of the Right thinks it's WOKE.

 

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Did I say I was going to?

Yeah. that's what was asked and what you replied to.

So you couldn't find even one.  Well there you go.

12 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

My argument is that conservatives get mad when a woman is in a position of power. And here is an example of that happening.

ROFLMAO - the character is actually being held captive against her will and needs a man to rescue her.  That's not power. And this is very clearly a put up job

So you lied. Nobody is mad about captian marvel being a lead woman.  Do you EVER tell the truth?

12 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Is the problem that Super Mario is a bad movie? No, because these people haven't even seen it yet.

 

They literally talk about it being bad in the intro to that clip. "It's too corporate to even take ironically".

I love it when you post proof that you're wrong Always entertaining.

Poor girl - you try SO hard to support your violent little tribe and you always wind up looking SO foolish. 

[Americana Antifa]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - the character is actually being held captive against her will and needs a man to rescue her.  That's not power. And this is very clearly a put up job

In some of the games, yeah. But in this movie, Peach is one of the heroes on a mission to rescue Luigi.

But because you fashies are all incels with mommy issues, you're big mad about it.

Edited April 10, 2023 by Americana Antifa

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

But because you fashies are all incels with mommy issues, you're big mad about it.

LOLOL - awwww muffin - you've realized how dumb you look and now you're having a hissy fit    feel like posting a picture i bet!

Poor little holly hobbie is all pee'd off that nobody believed her little faked news story and that nobody was actually mad about captian marvel

You're hilarious to watch - it's like having our own trained monkey to dance for us around here

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, CdnFox said:

LOLOL - awwww muffin - you've realized how dumb you look and now you're having a hissy fit    feel like posting a picture i bet!

Poor little holly hobbie is all pee'd off that nobody believed her little faked news story and that nobody was actually mad about captian marvel

You're hilarious to watch - it's like having our own trained monkey to dance for us around here

Dude, there's no way I can compete with all those smilies.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Dude, there's no way I can compete with all those smilies.

Well  if you'd be less of a hlarious joke it wouldn't be a problem would it 

And lets be honest - you're not in any danger of being competitive even when there's not similes. With anyone.  People like having you here for the laughs and the entertainment value of how dense what you say is. And we love watching you flail when you realize you can't defend your position   It's impossible NOT to smile.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Do you have any examples of going too far when it comes to destigmatizing disabilities?

John Fetterman

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, Nationalist said:

John Fetterman

What policies did he try to pass that you think went too far?

Or are you saying that he should step down because he has depression?

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

What policies did he try to pass that you think went too far?

Or are you saying that he should step down because he has depression?

I'm saying he was propped up as a valid and capable candidate, but he was and is not. He suffers from depression and has cognitive issues due to his stroke. He's been AWOL from his seat for a while now and will be again. Why?

Because Fetterman is unfit for leadership.

[Moonbox]

On 4/8/2023 at 11:36 AM, CdnFox said:

No it's demonstrably correct. As your own source said - it wasn't until the time of agustus, some 100 plus years after maruus, that rome even began to have standing armies

By the time of Augustus they had 25 standing legions, so ~125,000 active, professional, paid soldiers on 20+ year terms of service, which you said they didn't:

  

The energy you're expending just to escape your own embarrassing stupidity is entertaining though.  As usual, 1-3 lines are met with paragraphs of your obfuscating and no-life pounding on the keyboard.  ? 

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'm saying he was propped up as a valid and capable candidate, but he was and is not. He suffers from depression and has cognitive issues due to his stroke. He's been AWOL from his seat for a while now and will be again. Why?

Because Fetterman is unfit for leadership.

There's no evidence that he has cognitive issues.

Either way, this is a really bad example. We were talking about destigmatizing mental abnormalities. If Fetterman really can't do the job, then he should step down. But that doesn't mean he should stop talking about his struggles with depression. I don't see how him being open about it has gone too far.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

There's no evidence that he has cognitive issues.

Either way, this is a really bad example. We were talking about destigmatizing mental abnormalities. If Fetterman really can't do the job, then he should step down. But that doesn't mean he should stop talking about his struggles with depression. I don't see how him being open about it has gone too far.

Sure you do. And if you really don't, then I'd suggest you're willfully stupid.

I watched Fetterman admit recently that he has trouble understanding things. That happens to be a cognitive disability. 

The guy should not be allowed to hold a seat in the US Senate.

[Americana Antifa]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Sure you do. And if you really don't, then I'd suggest you're willfully stupid.

How has him being open with his depression gone too far exactly?

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I watched Fetterman admit recently that he has trouble understanding things. That happens to be a cognitive disability. 

The guy should not be allowed to hold a seat in the US Senate.

He said that he needs a cc monitor because the words he's hearing sometimes mesh together, which is normal when recovering from a stroke. But that doesn't hinder his ability to think. It's the same help that a deaf person would need.

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

How has him being open with his depression gone too far exactly?

He said that he needs a cc monitor because the words he's hearing sometimes mesh together, which is normal when recovering from a stroke. But that doesn't hinder his ability to think. It's the same help that a deaf person would need.

My sister is deaf. She would not be AWOL from her job for any reason.

Fetterman has no business being in the senate. It's down right mean to have put him there. A result of virtue-signalling. 

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, Nationalist said:

My sister is deaf. She would not be AWOL from her job for any reason.

I was referring to words meshing together as a result of his stroke.

The depression is another issue. If he can't do the job, then he should step down. But the voters didn't know about that when electing him and it doesn't mean he is cognitively disabled.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives don't like when women are portrayed heroically.

Why did Wonder Woman do good at the box office?

Terminator? Who was one of the strongest non robotic characters? A woman.

Alien?

Rey from the Star Wars franchise? I could go on for days, on iconic female characters.

You're trying to present an argument but are missing the mark.

What many people dislike, it isn't a conservative thing, is that when being a woman takes precedent on being strong. 

Rey was just a very strong person. Sarah Connor, was an incredibly strong person. She happened to be a woman, which made her awesome.

Them being women didn't matter. Really shouldn't matter.

A lot of movies now, instead of entertaining, are lecturing. Being a woman takes precedent to how good a movie is. Being gay. Trans. Black, etc.

I remember the producer of movie Bros, lambasted homophobia for his paltry box office numbers.

Uh, no, your movie looked like it sucked, and most see movies on them looking like they are really good. Most of the advertising focused on the room com involving an unprecedented gay couple. I heard more about them being gay, than any of the characters in the movie. That I should see this, as it represents progress.

Again. I watch movies to entertain myself. Not go make a moral code check on myself.

Most do, too. 

This isn't an inert attempt to suppress gay voices. I know tons of liberal people who didn't nor would watch that movie. What does it make them?

You need to think outside of your tribal box you have locked into, which limits you to thinking conservative = bad and liberal = good. 

Critical thinking is your best friend. Means you can have a heated debate and avoid personal insults. A sign someone doesn't have an argument to bring to the table. 

Also the irony is lost on you, in that you question the validity of an opinion based on the political alignment pushing it, ignoring a lot of black people, including myself, consider themselves as conservatives.

How is that any different than someone thinking a woman couldn't lead a role in a movie or that a black person couldn't carry a franchise?

Focus on the data, and point, and skip the political talking points. 

Thank you.

#everybody on this website

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I was referring to words meshing together as a result of his stroke.

The depression is another issue. If he can't do the job, then he should step down. But the voters didn't know about that when electing him and it doesn't mean he is cognitively disabled.

Well he is cognitively disabled.!

Yet the Democrats ran him anyway and even used his disability as a weapon. It was and is a disgusting display. 

[Americana Antifa]

6 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Why did Wonder Woman do good at the box office?

Terminator? Who was one of the strongest non robotic characters? A woman.

Alien?

Rey from the Star Wars franchise? I could go on for days, on iconic female characters.

You're trying to present an argument but are missing the mark.

What many people dislike, it isn't a conservative thing, is that when being a woman takes precedent on being strong. 

Rey was just a very strong person. Sarah Connor, was an incredibly strong person. She happened to be a woman, which made her awesome.

Them being women didn't matter. Really shouldn't matter.

A lot of movies now, instead of entertaining, are lecturing. Being a woman takes precedent to how good a movie is. Being gay. Trans. Black, etc.

I remember the producer of movie Bros, lambasted homophobia for his paltry box office numbers.

Uh, no, your movie looked like it sucked, and most see movies on them looking like they are really good. Most of the advertising focused on the room com involving an unprecedented gay couple. I heard more about them being gay, than any of the characters in the movie. That I should see this, as it represents progress.

Again. I watch movies to entertain myself. Not go make a moral code check on myself.

Most do, too. 

This isn't an inert attempt to suppress gay voices. I know tons of liberal people who didn't nor would watch that movie. What does it make them?

You need to think outside of your tribal box you have locked into, which limits you to thinking conservative = bad and liberal = good. 

Critical thinking is your best friend. Means you can have a heated debate and avoid personal insults. A sign someone doesn't have an argument to bring to the table. 

Also the irony is lost on you, in that you question the validity of an opinion based on the political alignment pushing it, ignoring a lot of black people, including myself, consider themselves as conservatives.

How is that any different than someone thinking a woman couldn't lead a role in a movie or that a black person couldn't carry a franchise?

Focus on the data, and point, and skip the political talking points. 

Thank you.

#everybody on this website

So why is right-wing media complaining about Princess Peach being a hero in the new Mario movie before even seeing it? Why did they say that Captain Marvel and Black Panther were examples of the MCU going "woke," again, before they even came out?

As for why Wonder Woman did good at the box office, it's because the "go woke, go broke" line is a lie. Conservatives make up a minority in America and a lot of them probably secretly like these movies, even if they won't publicly admit it.

It's funny, the Right especially hates Disney now and right-wing media will do segments on how going woke is destroying Disney. The truth is, Disney is making record profits.

[Zeitgeist]

21 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So why is right-wing media complaining about Princess Peach being a hero in the new Mario movie before even seeing it? Why did they say that Captain Marvel and Black Panther were examples of the MCU going "woke," again, before they even came out?

As for why Wonder Woman did good at the box office, it's because the "go woke, go broke" line is a lie. Conservatives make up a minority in America and a lot of them probably secretly like these movies, even if they won't publicly admit it.

It's funny, the Right especially hates Disney now and right-wing media will do segments on how going woke is destroying Disney. The truth is, Disney is making record profits.

The irony is that for someone who purports to be progressive your comments are incredibly tribal and judgemental.  Generally conservatives believe in merit and removing barriers for people, including the barriers of racism, homophobia, etc.   They do tend to support more traditional family and religious values.  Many blacks, latinos, and Indigenous support such traditional values as well.  In fact, I would far rather live in a world that recognizes a diversity of cultural and religious celebrations than one that doesn’t recognize any.  I enjoy learning about and partaking in different cultural festivals. I look forward to Carribana in Toronto.  I like strong women and mentors of all different backgrounds.  That’s the whole point: Strength and character supersede race, gender, etc.  A good story is a good story no matter the colour or gender of the characters.

I generally don’t want to be lectured to about why representation is important because I don’t question the value of representation. Of course the diversity of the population should be reflected in film, books, etc, but of course in some cases this takes time because the community demographic has changed in recent years, and yes, racism was and still can be a problem.  I don’t mind movies with a political agenda if the story is well written, acted, etc.  I enjoyed The Crying Game, an early transvestite-themed film because it was a touching story.

People are complex.  There are good liberals and good conservatives.   Political parties are full of compromise.  I lean more conservative now because I see the excesses of the left and how it’s threatening free speech and moral values.  I actually think it’s threatening equality and democracy.  Of course, I still listen to voices on the left. Some of my favourite journalists are Beri Weiss and Briana Grey Joy, but they are big proponents of free speech too, and they’re inclusive of multiple perspectives on the right and left.

Edited April 10, 2023 by Zeitgeist