Canadian Catholic student arrested for saying men are different from women.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 3/17/2023 at 11:41 AM, blackbird said:

"Every generation tends to think, “The people before us were primitive. We’re smarter now.” Which proves we’re not smarter now. The Bible bluntly declares, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Obviously, we still don’t."

God Calms Our Sexual Insanity: The Seventh Commandment for Today | Desiring God

I don't know how many times I've heard the claim that the Bible is ancient written by uneducated ignorant men.  Implying of course that we know more today than the ancients who wrote the Bible (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God).  Well, the way the world is heading proves that the Bible is true and modern man is wrong and is in denial and ignorance generally speaking.

I don't know about that last sentence, but we certainly went overboard on rejecting and replacing traditional values.  Is "covering up" worse than flashing fake cleave on Instagram?  Is waiting to have sex until marriage worse than getting multiple women pregnant out of wedlock, and then killing the baby in-utero?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't know about that last sentence, but we certainly went overboard on rejecting and replacing traditional values.

This is actually a common occurance as civilizations mature, There tends to be a few generations who fight to establish everything, a few generations that then follow that believing its the best way and then suddenly a generation who throws much of the values out, and the next generation sees the end of that civilization as it falls into decay. The process can take a little more than 100 years to in some cases closer to a thousand  but it seems to happen with all of them sooner or later.

[Zeitgeist]

On 3/17/2023 at 9:33 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Depends what kind of discrimination we're talking about. If you don't have sex with men because you're a straight man, that kind of discrimination is fine. But if you refuse to hire a woman for a job solely because she's a woman, that is pretty lame. And it is illegal in most countries with anti-discrimination laws.

Can y'all please open a book sometime? Trans people are not new. Recognizing the difference between sex and gender is not new. Right-wing media told you that you hate trans people now, but that doesn't mean it was always like this. For most of history, people were identified based on how they presented. 

Cultural Marxism is literally based on Cultural Bolshevism, a popular Nazi theory about the Jews secretly trying to destroy western society by promoting degeneracy. It's pretty much the exact same theory, but the anti-semitism is less explicit.

No, that’s Gender Studies pseudoscience.  “Y’all”  Is that purposefully selected from your liberal arts compelled speech manual? ?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/equity-language-guides-sierra-club-banned-words/673085/

[Zeitgeist]

6 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

The NY Post is fake news. Find a real source.

Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm saying it's not illegal to misgender someone. It's also not illegal to refer to people with racial slurs. But if you do that, I can't promise you won't get yelled at.

What did I lie about? She got in trouble for playing a video that went against the school's TOS. She wasn't arrested, she isn't being oppressed by the state.

Y'all really don't know what freedom of speech is. Freedom of speech does not mean there are NO consequences for speech. It means that the government will not arrest you for saying things. When Putin has a journalist arrested for criticizing him, that's an actual violation of free speech. When you're kicked off a social media site for harassing trans people, that's NOT a violation of free speech.

Oh, the Nazis were completely wrong. Because yeah, the Bolshevists were homophobic. Joseph Stalin put gay people in the gulags. But according to the Cultural Bolshevism conspiracy theory that the Nazis spread, the Jews were spreading degeneracy throughout Europe because that leads to Bolshevism... somehow. Like most right-wing theories, it didn't make much sense.

Seriously? Peterson talks about "Cultural Marxism" all the time.

Lies. I'm right about everything.

If you have to strawman, then you're probably wrong.

Again, I don't think Peterson is a nazi. I think he's a retard who is unintentionally spreading nazism.

By the way, if you want a metric for how bad this has gotten, like five years ago nobody was talking about "Cultural Marxism." This was something only actual neo-nazis talked about online. But now, thanks to people like Peterson, mainstream Republicans like Ted Cruz are talking about it. The Republican party has fully embraced fascism.

How old are you?  Your arguments are unfair, lack sophistication, and jump to “You’re a Nazi” much as Chicken Little shrieks “The sky is falling.”   You need to be specific about what you don’t like and explain why in a compelling way supported by evidence.  Calling Peterson a Nazi is unreasonable slander.  Equating someone with his intellect and wisdom with Nazism is ridiculous. You’re irresponsible.  

Edited March 19, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[I am Groot]

On 3/17/2023 at 12:49 AM, BeaverFever said:

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

Tell me about these 'many' warnings. How many is 'many' and how many protests? Where is your evidence?

[I am Groot]

On 3/17/2023 at 9:33 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Depends what kind of discrimination we're talking about. If you don't have sex with men because you're a straight man, that kind of discrimination is fine.

Repeated studies have shown that tall people get promoted more. So do handsome/beautiful people. Fat, ugly, short people have it harder. This kind of discrimination is routine. Right from kindergarten. The less attractive you are, the less people want to see you and be around you. 

And by the way, if it's okay for straight white men to not want sex with men is it okay for lesbians to not want sex with men? Or are they "terfs" because they don't want to have sex with 'women' with male anatomy?

On 3/17/2023 at 9:33 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Can y'all please open a book sometime? Trans people are not new. Recognizing the difference between sex and gender is not new

The problem is YOU don't recognize any difference between sex and gender. As far as YOU and other trans activists and supporters are concerned the words are identical. You make no allowance for the fact that women-only spaces, sports, etc. are women-only because they're FEMALE only, in recognition of anatomical and biological differences.

Trans supporters are perfectly fine with the idea young girls need to change in front of naked 'women' with male bodies and erections, who stare at them.

On 3/17/2023 at 9:33 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Cultural Marxism is literally based on Cultural Bolshevism, a popular Nazi theory about the Jews secretly trying to destroy western society by promoting degeneracy. It's pretty much the exact same theory, but the anti-semitism is less explicit.

That Marxists want to destroy western society is not exactly a bizarre theory. Nor is it the imagination of 'far right media' that so many on the Left show contempt for Western cultural values and beliefs and want to replace them, along with the philosophy and traditions which came down through the centuries.

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Marx said the workers must control the means of production through democracy. Which country has tried this? East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and all the other countries people always mention did not have democracy.

The mindset of the extreme Left that tends to promote and support Socialism is not the mindset of people willing to tolerate argument or opposition. That's why even socialists who get elected and start out more relaxed, like Venezuela or Nicaragua, slip into authoritarianism. We can even see this in Canada, where anywhere the Left controls has rigid controls on what people may say and think and do. Look at the NDP. You aren't allowed to have any views which run counter to the leaders. Not so in the Conservative party. 

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The mindset of the extreme Left...

As opposed to the Pinochets of the world who let you know right away where they stand.

 

I'm not into slagging left and right because the extremes are barely present in Canada.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

As opposed to the Pinochets of the world who let you know right away where they stand.

 

I'm not into slagging left and right because the extremes are barely present in Canada.

The modern left is simply Pinochet in sheeps clothing. They still want their enemies to disappear, they want to radically reform the economic model and wealth distribution, they want to establish an authoritarian straglehold over the political and social apperatus. They are vicious and violent. 

Honestly, it's the same picture.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The modern left is simply Pinochet in sheeps clothing.  

Amazingly incorrect statement.  You would put someone who advocates for LGBTQ rights in the same class as someone who rounded up poets and executed and raped them.

Incredible.

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Amazingly incorrect statement. 

Because you don't like it? Sorry if it's inconvenient for you,

 

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You would put someone who advocates for LGBTQ rights in the same class as someone who rounded up poets and executed and raped them.

Sure -that's pretty much exactly what i said isn't it.

That would be like me saying "You would compare a man who revitalized their economy and had the greatest economic growth in all of the southern hemisphere with people who would burn police and torture disabled people for being white?"

You pick the worst and compare it to the best. VERY dishonest.

The left today is all about repression, bigotry, hatred and violence to get their way. The believe that their beliefs should be mandated on others by force of law with severe punishments for those who don't comply. They advocate openly for violent public unrest. (it's SUPPOSED to make you uncomfortable! -  AOC).  They are corrupt as hell (looking at you justin and liberal party, not to mention hunter) and pit one group against another to create hatred they can exploit.

sorry - not seeing an aweful lot of daylight between teh two - other than laws and voters that hold that kind of nonsense in check.

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

1. Sure -that's pretty much exactly what i said isn't it.

 

2. You pick the worst and compare it to the best. VERY dishonest.

 

1. You have sunk to zero with such a ridiculous statement.

2. You made the comparison.  All of the modern left with a murderer of Innocents.  I gave you a chance to retract.  Welcome to the ignore list, for your terrible comparison.

[OftenWrong]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The left today is all about repression, bigotry, hatred and violence to get their way. The believe that their beliefs should be mandated on others by force of law with severe punishments for those who don't comply. They advocate openly for violent public unrest. (it's SUPPOSED to make you uncomfortable! -  AOC).  They are corrupt as hell (looking at you justin and liberal party, not to mention hunter) and pit one group against another to create hatred they can exploit.

Exactly. Here's where we agree on something, finally. I've said this before, many times, but as always you people,,,

 

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You have sunk to zero with such a ridiculous statement.

You have sunk to zero with your inability to recognize obvious sarcasm. Or is it you realized how daft what you said is and this is a cheezy way to try to distract from it?

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. You made the comparison.  All of the modern left with a murderer of Innocents.  I gave you a chance to retract.  Welcome to the ignore list, for your terrible comparison.

I get that it's easier to stick your head in the sand and not look at facts you don't like. I notice you couldn't dispute anything i actually said. You obvoiusly know it's true but don't want to face anyone who says it to your face.

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

 Here's where we agree on something, finally. 

Do you think AOC is as bad a Pinochet too?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Do you think AOC is as bad a Pinochet too?

You mean the girl who claims violence is a neessary part of protest and that we should ban all planes and trains?

Naaaah - she's perfectly mentally stable.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Amazingly incorrect statement.  You would put someone who advocates for LGBTQ rights in the same class as someone who rounded up poets and executed and raped them.

Incredible.

If someone goes against the  advocacy of LGBT rights what does the left do to them?

They don't get executed and raped, but they do get canceled, lose their jobs, and in this case are denied education by getting suspended for the rest of the school year.

Its not rape, but it is intimidation and coercion.  Losing your job and being denied education is pretty much the most anyone outside the government can do to someone under the law.

[Moonlight Graham]

37 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Do you think AOC is as bad a Pinochet too?

AOC seems like a nice person and not a tyrant.  Not everyone on the left is like her.

Even Trudeau isn't Pinochet, which is an extreme example, but he does behave like a tyrant.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. If someone goes against the  advocacy of LGBT rights what does the left do to them?

2. it is intimidation and coercion.   

1. Are they imprisoned in a soccer stadium, raped, murdered and their children given away?  Think seriously about what is being said.

2. Some people lost their jobs and ended up in court.  Does that make it ok to make this comparison?  I sure wouldn't have compared what The Dixie Chicks went through to living under Pinochet FFS.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Michael Hardner

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Moonlight Graham said:

AOC seems like a nice person and not a tyrant.  Not everyone on the left is like her.

So not everyone left of Poilievre is Pinochet?

 

Wow you're out on a limb for this board...

[Michael Hardner]

On 3/17/2023 at 12:49 AM, BeaverFever said:

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

 

 

I think that I asked for a CITE for this.  I read your link and some of this wasn't in there.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Are they imprisoned in a soccer stadium, raped, murdered and their children given away?  Think seriously about what is being said.

Yes - n places where they can get away with it. Venezuela for example. China.  They can't here because of laws and structure. But based on the comments you see from the left -thats the only thing holding them back.

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Some people lost their jobs and ended up in court.  Does that make it ok to make this comparison?

Yes, michael it does.  And your overreaction suggests you know it's a legitimate criticism.

The only difference between the two is that the left here is constrained by laws.  Do you have ANY evidence they wouldn't go farther if the law allowed? Because honestly i think the evidence shows they would.

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

  I sure wouldn't have compared what The Dixie Chicks went through to living under Pinochet FFS.

How about this guy? Tortured by BLM supporters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Chicago_torture_incident

or the left wing protesters who called out for police to be killed during marches? I can go on if you like. How about those democrats who have called white males 'inhuman" or called for more violent protests or who have bailed out a murderer as long as he was willing to protest?

Get your head out of your ass.  If you thought the left was a bunch of nice people these days you were horribly wrong.

 

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Tell me about these 'many' warnings. How many is 'many' and how many protests? Where is your evidence?

It’s all been reported and discussed on thia thread. He was not some student who simply voiced and opinion he is an anti-trans protester who hel multiple anti-trams protests in the community and ultimately at the school during school hours l. He was suspended several times, and warned he would be banned from campus if he kept it up.   He kept it up even after he was banned. Then after  that he would be charged with trespassing if showed up again. He showed up. 
 

https://www.pembrokeobserver.com/news/local-news/st-josephs-student-who-led-rally-against-open-bathroom-use-is-banned-from-attending-classes

 

https://www.insideottawavalley.com/news-story/10850464-renfrew-teen-suspended-from-school-for-expressing-anti-trans-beliefs/
 

Its funny when it’s a left wing demonstration, protest are DANGEROUS CRIMINAL ACTS  bordering on TERRORISM but when it’s a right wong demonstration up to and including and attack on the Capitol building to stop the result of a democratic election it’s simply “expressing an opinion”

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that I asked for a CITE for this.  I read your link and some of this wasn't in there.

Added to my post above 

Edited March 19, 2023 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

It’s all been reported and discussed on thia thread. He was not some student who simply voiced and opinion he is an anti-trans protester who hel multiple anti-trams protests in the community and ultimately at the school during school hours l

uuuhhhhh -no.  No the article you linked to said the opposite. He never did have the protest, he was organizing it when he was banned.

Soooo - no. You just lied.  He had NOT done"Multiple protests', he had not even done a SINGLE ONE yet.

37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Its funny when it’s a left wing demonstration, protest are DANGEROUS CRIMINAL ACTS  bordering on TERRORISM but when it’s a right wong demonstration up to and including and attack on the Capitol building to stop the result of a democratic election it’s simply “expressing an opinion”

I think you'll find it's the other way around. Nobody has used the emergency act on protesters before even when they were blocking infastructure for weeks on end.