Canadian Catholic student arrested for saying men are different from women.

[Americana Antifa]

30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

When a man could put pigtails and tell you he's a woman and demand to be allowed in the women's changing room (or jail), and isn't escorted form the building. Male ID and all...that is new.

See, this is why schools need to be teaching about trans people. No, this isn't new. This used to be normal throughout the ancient world. In lots of places, it's still like this. I don't blame you for not knowing this, I blame the righty establishment for keeping you ignorant.

30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

People being petrified to describe woman. That is new.

Thats what lobbying power can get you.

Yes, I'm sure that's what 4chan is saying, but it's not true. 

[Americana Antifa]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that sounds like a lie. I did a quick search and there were a number of media sources and his name was in about half.  I did find SOME blogs but not many.

Ohhh, really? Well then you wouldn't mind linking me to this story on a non-fake news site. ?

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think you do more than it does.  Sorry - but you're just dismissing it because you don't like it. There's no indication that paper plants entirely fake stories.

Yes or no, do you really not know anything about the Fox News vs Dominion lawsuit? 

Maybe this is just an American thing, but our righty media makes up shit all the time.

[Americana Antifa]

6 minutes ago, West said:

My nazism isn't a thing

Do you believe in the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory?

[West]

13 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Do you believe in the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory?

What conspiracy theory?

This one? 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Frankfurt-School

 

You claiming Frankfort school did not peddle this nonsense?

Edited March 21, 2023 by West

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, West said:

What conspiracy theory?

This one? 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Frankfurt-School

 

You claiming Frankfort school did not peddle this nonsense?

No, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

The Frankfurt School was a thing, but they weren't promoting "degeneracy" in order to weaken Germany and bring about Communism, like the nazis claimed.

If you think that today, marxists are using the media and schools to promote feminism, atheism, homosexuality, and trans identity as part of some plot to spread Marxism, then you've fallen for a repackaged conspiracy theory that was the foundation of Nazism.

 

[West]

4 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

No, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

The Frankfurt School was a thing, but they weren't promoting "degeneracy" in order to weaken Germany and bring about Communism, like the nazis claimed.

If you think that today, marxists are using the media and schools to promote feminism, atheism, homosexuality, and trans identity as part of some plot to spread Marxism, then you've fallen for a repackaged conspiracy theory that was the foundation of Nazism.

 

Any person who's sat in a humanities lecture knows that's exactly what they are doing. You denying that or calling people "nazis" for stating the obvious doesn't change it.. 

Nothing says progress like mutilating your genitals eh

Edited March 21, 2023 by West

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, West said:

Any person who's sat in a humanities lecture knows that's exactly what they are doing. You denying that or calling people "nazis" for stating the obvious doesn't change it.. 

?

To be fair, I don't know if you're a nazi. You could just be stupidly repeating nazi talking-points.

Do you think this is part of a bigger conspiracy involving the Jews? Do you think the Jews are promoting Marxism to gain control of the western world?

 

[Perspektiv]

26 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

This used to be normal throughout the ancient world.

Well, it isn't now. Throwing feces onto the street used to be normal in the ancient world. We developed toilets. Sewage systems. Heck, even ceiling fans, and deodorizer.

Someone throwing poop on the sidewalk would I hope you can understand, seen as insanely weird or crazy.

"They used to do this in the 1800's. Look it up" thats your argument.

Something being normal in the ancient world, is a horrible argument for present events. 

Especially if the world over has adapted to such behavior.

32 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes, I'm sure that's what 4chan is saying, but it's not true. 

Mainstream media. Nice try.

32 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I blame the righty

You lose credibility in using such words vs logic, and a strong counter argument to debate someone.

 

[Perspektiv]

49 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Also, I heard him speak.

Care to point to a quote that proves he isn't intellectual? You thinking someone isn't is irrelevant, and failure to point out with evidence, just proves my point. You just don't like his opinions.

[Perspektiv]

I could post dozens of quotes, to prove Donald Trump has a low IQ. If Peterson does too, it should be incredibly easy.

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Well, it isn't now. Throwing feces onto the street used to be normal in the ancient world. We developed toilets. Sewage systems. Heck, even ceiling fans, and deodorizer.

Deflection. The point is that trans people have always been a thing. They're not a new thing created by marxists as part of a conspiracy.

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Mainstream media. Nice try.

Who in the mainstream media is afraid to describe women?

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

You lose credibility in using such words vs logic, and a strong counter argument to debate someone.

Dude, you tried arguing that trans people being accepted didn't happen until recently. That's not logic, that's ignorance.

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Care to point to a quote that proves he isn't intellectual? You thinking someone isn't is irrelevant, and failure to point out with evidence, just proves my point. You just don't like his opinions.

Again, he thought the Chinese government was milking people.

[West]

7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

?

To be fair, I don't know if you're a nazi. You could just be stupidly repeating nazi talking-points.

Do you think this is part of a bigger conspiracy involving the Jews? Do you think the Jews are promoting Marxism to gain control of the western world?

 

We know you lunatics like to call any people with opposition to your lunacy nazis 

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, West said:

We know you lunatics like to call any people with opposition to your lunacy nazis 

Deflection. I'm guessing that's a yes, you just don't have the balls to admit it.

[West]

17 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Deflection. I'm guessing that's a yes, you just don't have the balls to admit it.

You writing a Wiki page doesn't make you intelligent 

 

Nazis were socialist bud. It's right in their name

Edited March 21, 2023 by West

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, West said:

You writing a Wiki page doesn't make you intelligent 

Why are conservatives such cowards? If you think the Jews are behind this, just say so. I promise I won't tease you or like make you cry or anything.

[West]

4 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Why are conservatives such cowards? If you think the Jews are behind this, just say so. I promise I won't tease you or like make you cry or anything.

You are a socialist. Nazis were a socialist party. Therefore you are a nazi

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, West said:

You are a socialist. Nazis were a socialist party. Therefore you are a nazi

Bwahahaha! Oh yeah, those socialist nazis! I mean, it was in their name. Would they have lied?!!

This is another strange thing about you righty cucks. You believe in Nazism, but you'll pretend that other people do if they call you out on it. Is this just projection? Are you not aware that you're basically a nazi?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

You can say it's a joke, but this is actually the logic you're using. China calls itself socialist, so it is socialist. You're ignoring everything else.

oh my god how thick are you? It's not 'logic' - they didn't call THEMSELVES socialst they called themselves a democratic dictatorship - it's right in their constitution which is why it's funny.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

And yes, Socialism requires democracy. There's no other way for the workers to control the means of production.

Nonsense. The state can simply oversee it on their behalf.  That's what happens in the end anyway. Even in a democracy the workers wouldn't actually control the means of production directly, they would vote on who would do it for them. Just take out the 'vote' and you're at the same place. Someone will do it for them. LIke a property manager handling the property for his client.

That's what is so insidious about socialism and socialists.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Ohhh, really? Well then you wouldn't mind linking me to this story on a non-fake news site. ?

According to you ANY site that carries the story is a fake news site.  So basically we're back to you being a dishonest person.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes or no, do you really not know anything about the Fox News vs Dominion lawsuit? 

Yes or no, was it  a fox news story i posted?

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Maybe this is just an American thing, but our righty media makes up shit all the time.

Your lefty media is even worse.  But - in either case none  of them actually just print a completely fake story. They may HORRENDOUSLY alter it - as cnn did when they edited the tape in the tavon martin case to make the caller sound racist., but to just fake an entire incident altogether? I mean - left wing journalist brian williams lied about his chopper being shot down but there WAS actually a war going on

Your dismissal of this is just cheap and intellectually dishonest. We both know that.

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Who in the mainstream media is afraid to describe women?

The fact that this is in question now?

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Dude, you tried arguing that trans people being accepted didn't happen until recently.

No. Eluding to lobbying power. Social influence, even affecting speech. People being petrified. These are all new concepts. Not the fact that gender fluidity and transgenderism aren't new concepts. That colors like pink and purple were marketed as feminine, to sell to girls but prior to this, were gender neutral colors.

Am aware as to what are new concepts, and socially created. 

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Again, he thought the Chinese government was milking people

And this makes him unintelligent vd opinionated, because?

 

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Why are conservatives such cowards?

How does ones political alignment equate cowardice?

Same line of thinking would like Muslims to terrorism, even though terrorists make a microscopic crump of the religious belief.

[Americana Antifa]

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

oh my god how thick are you? It's not 'logic' - they didn't call THEMSELVES socialst they called themselves a democratic dictatorship - it's right in their constitution which is why it's funny.

I know, but you're actually using this insane way of thinking in your arguments. You've been saying that China is socialist because they say they're socialist. That actually is like them saying they're a democratic dictatorship and you believing because, I mean, they're using the words.

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nonsense. The state can simply oversee it on their behalf.

But that's not Socialism. Socialism isn't when the state oversees the means of production on behalf of the workers. It's when the workers control the means of production.

Capitalists have to pretend it's possible to have a socialist dictatorship because the truth is that Capitalism doesn't require democracy.

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Just take out the 'vote' and you're at the same place. Someone will do it for them. LIke a property manager handling the property for his client.

You do realize this logic could be used against liberal democracy too, right? Like that's how insane this is. Democracy can't work because if we completely eliminate democracy, then we don't have democracy.

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

I didn't say Peterson is a nazi for disagreeing with me. I said "Cultural Marxism" is a nazi conspiracy theory, which it is.

No it isn’t.  It’s a prolific aspect of post-modern western culture.  It reduces everyone and everything to its material value as a commodity.  You need to read critical theory (no not CRT).  Commodification is a cultural phenomenon that theorists like Jameson wrote about.  Nihilism, relativism (moral relativism is a subset of this), and Existentialism are all features of late capitalism (to put it in Marxist terms).  Look, I studied these ideas for a while, wrote a thesis, bought the t-shirt.  The problem with all of these ideas is that they lead humanity to the empty void, the man without qualities, William Blake’s humanity reduced to number, the dead world.  There’s no sense of meaning, nothing transcendent.

Many of these ideas about the plasticity of gender stem from the false notion that nature doesn’t exist and identify is purely a social construct.  The reality principle goes out the window.  It’s the story of Frankenstein’s monster, the idea that technology can be used to create anything and can alter reality.  Be careful what you wish for.  We’ve entered the period of transhumanism where people are becoming technologically enhanced.  We need to start asking questions like, at what point is one no longer human?  We’re already pretending that biological sex can be ignored and that faked gender can override it.  That’s why the Catholic Church, for example, only recognizes biological sex.

Look, your activism is old hat to me.  I could go on for days about Foucault and Derrida and the idea that language is persuasive sophistry used to assert power. That’s why it’s important to know the methods of one’s adversaries. I know the postmodern void that you inhabit. I simply see it as a degraded existence. I hold to traditional values such as the divinely created uniqueness of each person whose rights are inalienable and naturally given.  They’re transcendent and therefore no earthly power can violate individual rights.  Not Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Trudeau, Biden, Trump, Putin, no one.  That’s why our Charter rights are inviolable.  If we lose a sense of the transcendent, we lose our humanity.

Be careful about your radicalism.  You may find it leaves you cold.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Americana Antifa]

14 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

How does ones political alignment equate cowardice?

Good question. Maybe it's the submissive and cowardly nature one needs to become a conservative in the first place. That would explain why they're all such muschis. There actually have been studies on the brains of right-leaning people and left-leaning people. Right-leaning people are more fearful, which makes sense.

14 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Same line of thinking would like Muslims to terrorism, even though terrorists make a microscopic crump of the religious belief.

Well the difference there is that religious identity is much wider in scope. Most Muslims are just born into Islam and ignore most of the Koran.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Americana Antifa